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Yesterday my neighbors (apartment complex) bought a wireless linksys router, I have a dlink wireless router, anyways today I log into my computer and find that her computer is on my network and mine on hers. Can anyone tell me what I can do short of not sharing my folders to keep her computer out of mine and mine out of hers? Thank you very much!
ThePCGuy
07-10-03, 09:29 PM
Securing your router and your system shouldn't be a problem, as there are many different ways to accomplish this. If your router supports "Wep" or Wired Equivalent Privacy, you can enable this which uses encryption, by default this is usually turned off. The simplest way I can see you securing your network is to simply change your workgroup (although it doesn't take you two off the network, I highly doubt she will be able to find your system unless she is really trying to get in, its not really that secure, but it helps). If you are already on different workgroups you can proceed and turning off SSID or Service Set Identifier, Basically it closes down a beacon signal that helps get your wireless devices to contact the router during initial configuration. If you want to proceed you can setup your mac (media access control, a layer 2 technology) control tables (ACL - access control list). Basically you setup the table to only allow the mac address of your equipment (such as your wi-fi pc-cards, etc.). For the simplest solution, you can password protect shares on your system. It won't separate your two networks, however it will block access. If you still want to go further, you can install some type of firewall software (Zonealarm is a free download, pick it up, easy to configure) and limit the ip address that are allowed to connect to your machine. Basically shutting down the rest of the network to your machines. I hope I have been of some assistance. Good luck.
koontz946
07-10-03, 09:43 PM
I personally would say that the easiest thing to do would be to enable WEP encryption on the router... the 64 bit i believe (its easier to set up)... and just enter the password into your other computers.
I enabled wep and changed ssids and passwords, but I can still see her network when it searches for an available network is there a way to block hers out? Also I changed my workgroup as well.
I put in a wep and my neighbor can still log into my network for some reason it does not ask for the wep number on her computer, maybe i did something wrong?
tatanka
07-11-03, 01:54 AM
Have you tried changing your SSID? you should also turn off broadcasting on your wap/wireless router if you have that option... you might also wanna change your internal IP addresses just in case your neighbor uses the same IP's (i.e. don't use default ip 192.168.0.0 or 192.168.1.0)
sorry... didnt' see that you already tried changing ssid's... I don't think you can block out her wireless network, but it shouldn't matter as long as you set up yours to be the primary one to log on into...
I was under the impression that if I enabled wep, then anyone trying to log in would need the number or password for the wep? I just want it so she cant log into my network, she has her own but if it cant log into hers it logs into mine which I think shouldnt beable to happen that easy.
tatanka
07-11-03, 07:32 PM
what type of wireless card(s) do you have? if they are d-link like your access point you should try running in "shared key" mode... this way only d-link wireless cards will be able to connect to your network
su root
07-11-03, 07:39 PM
Is it possible that you are logging into her network? Once you turn off SSID broadcasting, your network won't show up automatically, and you'll have to manually type in the SSID to connect to your network. Is it possible that you automatically connected to hers?
Kingslayer
07-11-03, 08:26 PM
You guys have skipped over the problem and you're looking wayyyy to far into it.
I'm going to bet, 10 to 1 odds, that both of their workgroups are set to the windows default WORKGROUP and that is why they can see each other.
ThePCGuy
07-11-03, 08:31 PM
Actually, that area was not overlooked. I mentioned to him about his workgroup and it has already been changed. Simply changing the workgroup will not limit someone's ability to see you on a network. It simply divides the machines into different networks. By simply password protecting his shares, or turning on some default security, there is absolutely no problem. The problem he has is that he doesn't want to see her on his network, lol. Picky picky picky
Kingslayer
07-11-03, 11:23 PM
Ok.
Neighbor 1 use 10.0.0.0
Neighbor 2 use 192.168.0.0
That's the only other thing I can think that you haven't covered. Either that or he is trasmitting his SID, but you covered that. But then again he hasn't said he turned that off either....
I looked to see if my ssid was off and it wasnt but there is no option to turn it off. Now here is the weird thing she turned hers off, but now she connects to my network because when it asks which network she wants to connect to it only shows mine, because she is not broadcasting her ssid argh, I should just go over there and tell her i had wireless first. They should make this more secure it is unreal.
koontz946
07-12-03, 12:55 AM
ok.... i recall, in my wireless network, there being a box that you can check off that says that the wep key is automatically provided. if you go into the router (you need to type in the router's ip address in ur browser, i believe), you might be able to turn off the broadcasting of whatever password you are setting.
thats another thing... at least with my linksys router, i had to go into the router's ip address to make any permanent changes... not just the computer.
orion25
07-12-03, 03:25 AM
What model is your DLink Router?
I have the DI-614+ and to disable the SSID Brodacasting, do the following.
-Enter 192.168.0.1 into a your browser. Then enter your user (default is admin - Be sure to change this at some point) and password.
-Click on the Advanced Tab.
- Click on the Performance Button.
- Make sure the radio button for "SSID Broadcast" is set to Disabled.
Also:
Try changing the Channel you are using (default is "6" I believe). Do this on the Home > Wireless page
Hope this helps.
tatanka
07-12-03, 03:45 AM
you know it'd be funny if you weren't really having any problems at all and your neighbor's wireless nic/wap/wireless router is on the fritz... are you sure her stuff is working correctly? It doesn't make sense that she can only see your wap unless she was having problems with hers.... maybe you should try creating a new SSID, WEP code, different channel, etc... again
My router is the dlink di713p i looked for performance under advanced and found nothing about ssid but I will change the channel. Does it matter which one i choose? I heard some of them are shared or something similar and only like 3 6 and 11 are not? You guys are really great thanks a ton!
orion25
07-12-03, 02:19 PM
I have heard that some are not shared but I cannot remember which ones. The important thing is to use a channel that is different than your neighbors.
Also look at this FAQ (http://support.dlink.com/faq/view.asp?prod_id=1255&question=DI%2D713+SSID) from the Dlink website. It may explain some of your troubles.
Are you using the most current Firmware version for your Router? Look Here. (http://support.dlink.com/Products/view.asp?productid=DI-713P)
xtrmeocr
07-12-03, 05:55 PM
1 6 and 11 are the only non overlapped chans.
are you runing the newest firmware on your d-link?
i'd sugest turning on 128bit wep, mac filtering and disable ssid broadcasting(it should be in there...)
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