The 2500+ blues

[Hedgehogforprez]

Well I knew my barton was coming in today and when it got here I busted open the package to see what stepping it is and to my excitement it was an AQXEA 0323. Only problem is my 8rga+ died on me last night, no matter what I try to do it just posts CF and doesn't boot. So I slapped in my ecs m848lu *shudder* just to get this computer working until newegg can send me a new board. So here I sit with a brand new good stepping barton running at stock speeds screaming at me "Overclock me, come on you know you want to" but I can't because this board does such a crappy job at it. Ugh. :mad:

[Gautam]

My hard drive died the day I got my 1700+ DLT3C. :( That was...not a pleasant situation. I feel your pain.

[TheMightyBuck]

i wish i had some money.....


(as long as we're singin' the blues)

[Hedgehogforprez]

Well it wasn't my money, I was building a computer for my boss at work and I suggested the 2500+ and after I ordered it she asked me what it ran at, told her 1.83ghz and she looked dissapointed so I told her I have a 2.0ghz proc in my comp I could give her for the one I ordered and she said sure! Can't back down from that offer now can you ;)

[amsties]

stupid bihhch thats like turning down a Ferrari over a chev pick up cuz the pick up has more horsepower. haha wait tell she finds out. hope ur not to dependant on your job

[iamnoob]

heh, you can never go wrong when it's not your money ;)

Nice deal, wish my boss did stuff like that to me...




Asus A7N8X DLX Rev2.0 - 1003
Athlon XP 2500+ @ 200*11.0 = 2200mhz @ 1.75v
Corsair 2x256MB PC3200 Dual Channel (2-2-2-6) @ 2.7v
Volcano 11 @ 4800rpm
ATI Radeon 9700 Pro
IBM 40.0GB ATA100 7200rpm
Liteon 52x24x52x
Enermax 350W w/ 2 Fans
Win XP w/ SP1
3DMark2k1 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6720570) =17,364
3DMark2k3 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=998616) = 5,371

[amsties]

man ghz means almost nothing now adays look at the difference between a Celeron 2.2 and a 3200. same clock but twice the speed. and yet the celeron cost more. man snip intell. everyone has the impression that intell is better than amd and are willing to fork over twice the money.. for what? what does intell have over amd now? i hate intell ever since i took off my dads p4 stupid over complicated imposable to take off heat sync to find it ripped the cpu right out of the socket bending and ripping out half of the pins. making me pay for the stupid over priced underperforming peice of snip chip. snip INTELL snipEM FOREVER!!

Good grief. Express your hatred elsewhere or in more acceptable fashion.

SickBoy
Forums Moderator

[Deptmaster]

Where's you order the AQXEA?

[Hedgehogforprez]

I know ghz means nothing, but she knows NOTHING about computers. And my work is closing in about a month anyway so if she finds out, which she won't care, then she can't fire me ;)

Dept: I got mine from googlegear.com, the retail package since I needed a heatsink for her computer and less than 10$ sounds right to me.

[Gautam]

Originally posted by Deptmaster
Where's you order the AQXEA?

This is a question many would like an answer to.

[Hedgehogforprez]

I got mine from googlegear.com, the retail package since I needed a heatsink for her computer and less than 10$ sounds right to me.

:p

[Josebmw]

So is it safe to say the AQXEA's are found in googlegear?, I mean, they sell these by batches, so the older cores in these retail packages shouldn't be there, but you might get an older core...just a speculation.

[sHape oF gReY]

Here is the link to the Googlegear Barton 2500+

here (http://www.googlegear.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80170-R)

[sHape oF gReY]

...hehe think i'll just get the AQXDA from GameVE.com and save me the hassle of playing the " I wonder what steppping I'm really gona get" game :D

[Josebmw]

On GameVE.com it says "AXDA2500DKV4D 9538168270162 AQXDA0322SPEW" is this one as good as the AQXEA cores? Seems good to me.

[sHape oF gReY]

from what I understand the differance would be slight if any, plus GameVE gurantees its steppings.

[Hedgehogforprez]

I've seen plenty of AQXEA's come from googlegear and not just recently.

[Vertigo1]

Originally posted by Josebmw
On GameVE.com it says "AXDA2500DKV4D 9538168270162 AQXDA0322SPEW" is this one as good as the AQXEA cores? Seems good to me.

My AQXDA0324 will do 2250 at stock voltage, 2310 at 1.7v and 2415 at 1.8v

[Hedgehogforprez]

Why doesnt anyone go over 1.8/1.85....never understood that really. Is it that much more detremental to the chip or what?

[sHape oF gReY]

not sure...my computer is still on paper :rolleyes: Give me 2 weeks or so and I'll tell you :D

[Josebmw]

I will when I get mine, 1.9v to 2v depending.

[Vertigo1]

Originally posted by Hedgehogforprez
Why doesnt anyone go over 1.8/1.85....never understood that really. Is it that much more detremental to the chip or what? Heat output starts rocketing at those voltages, requiring more agressive cooling and therefore more noise.

Ambient temperatures here are over 30C atm, making cooling a noisy nightmare at high voltages.

[Jay23]

Originally posted by Josebmw
So is it safe to say the AQXEA's are found in googlegear?, I mean, they sell these by batches, so the older cores in these retail packages shouldn't be there, but you might get an older core...just a speculation.

they can still be there, if they stock their stuff the same way I and my work does, the new stuff in the warehouse sits in front of the old (except in the store old stuff gets moved up first) so there probably is a chance you would get an older core.

[Mustanley]

Originally posted by Hedgehogforprez
Why doesnt anyone go over 1.8/1.85....never understood that really. Is it that much more detremental to the chip or what?

Some boards won't go beyond 1.85V (mine for instance). In my case, 2300MHz was stable at 1.70V on air but I could not get any higher even when raising the core to 1.85V. Once I water cooled it, it would do 2300MHz at stock voltage and 2500MHz at 1.85V, which is where I ended up.

Vertigo1 also makes a good point.
Heat output starts rocketing at those voltages, requiring more agressive cooling and therefore more noise.

[Josebmw]

Yea, I have the 75FRN-L, max is 1.85v, doesnt really make a difference with my 2400+, it just doesnt wanna go over 2.25 Ghz!!!

[Hedgehogforprez]

Oh, I thought maybe there was a very distinct difference in cpu life from 1.85-1.95 or so. I didn't have any temperature problems at 1.95 with my 2400+ at all. Was able to hit 2400 very stable and the temps ( read from socket was load at 43 ) so I didn't mind.

[Vertigo1]

Originally posted by Mustanley


Some boards won't go beyond 1.85V (mine for instance). In my case, 2300MHz was stable at 1.70V on air but I could not get any higher even when raising the core to 1.85V. Once I water cooled it, it would do 2300MHz at stock voltage and 2500MHz at 1.85V, which is where I ended up.
I'm in much the same situation. My 2500 will do 2415 rock solid at 1.8v, but in this weather it's just too difficult to cool properly without annoying the girlfriend with the noise.

I'm seriously contemplating my first foray into water cooling, and am currently tempted by the Asetek Waterchill kit, as it looks like a good one for first-timers like me.

[Fever]

Look on the bright side, now you have plenty of time to burn it in. :)


That sucks, though. :(

[Hedgehogforprez]

Burn what in?? This stupid board doesn't like anything higher than 159fsb and crashes everytime if i run at stock. Right now I have to run it at 11*155 :( a wopping 130mhz underclock!!!!!!

[OC+Turbo]

Hi i was woundering is it better to get the oem or retail barton 2500+ cause i heard alot of people bin getting good steping with the retail its like $5 difference and is new egg have good stepings or gameve has a steping that they ship on the oem what about google gear just wanted to clear it up?

THX GUYS!!!!!

[Hedgehogforprez]

I bought the retail package and got my AQXEA....googlegear said they cannot promise steppings when I asked them so it's luck of the draw. The only good thing is they have free 2nd day air shipping...fasssstttt and free :)

[Josebmw]

Yea, hopefully they dont have the older 2500+ PIV's, you are probably more likely to get an older stepping if you get OEM...