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danomite664
07-16-03, 11:47 PM
I bought the retail version of the 2500+ from newegg.com to use in a computer i built for my girlfriends mother. I got the system up and running fine (for the most part) except for one pretty big problem. The mobo (MSI KM266 KM2M Combo-L) only reports the cpu as being a 1700+, which is quite a difference. The computer still runs but everything i have looked at so far has reported it as a 1700. I havent had a chance to flash the bios yet, but i will when i get the floppy working right. Does anyone know of any issues with this mobo/cpu combination or has anyone experienced this before? The system also has 512 mb pc2700 ram (kingston), WD 80 gig hard drive, and 2 optical drives, just in case that information is helpful at all. I really dont want to have to mess with replacing this so if anyone can help me, i would really appreciate it.

AKULA
07-17-03, 12:04 AM
Does wcpuid and/or sandra still report the CPU haveing 512kb a L2 cache? If it does then everything is cool. Maybe flashing the BIOS with the latest update will allow it too report it correctly but it'll still run exactly the same FAIK.

Josebmw
07-17-03, 12:14 AM
You probably have to set it to 166fsb and make sure the default multiplier is used. This board officially supports 200/266 fsb. run wcpuid or go to my computer- right click -properties and see if the cpu is 1.83 GHz. It is probably reporting 1.47 GHz and therefore saying it's a 1700+ 133fsb x11 multiplier, it's supposed to be 166x11 stock.

danomite664
07-17-03, 12:28 AM
i plan on installing sandra on her computer so i can check all taht stuff, just didnt have the cd with it today when i looked at her computer. i just didnt know if anyone knew of any issues or how to change it, but i will try that stuff. Also, the motherboard says it has a 200/266 fsb and that it will support this cpu, but the jumper on the motherboard only has the 100/133 settings. I used the exact same motherboard on the computer i built for my girlfriend and used an xp2400+ with no problems.

AKULA
07-17-03, 01:01 AM
The XP 2400+ is a 266 FSB part. The XP 2500+ is a 333 FSB part...but the most you have is 266 on that board..Not a problem. Just, if the board will allow it, run it at 133x14. the chip will end up 36MHz over spec but the retail AMD stock cooler shouldn't have a problem with that at all. It'll never report the correct CPU type but long as there is 512kb of L2 cache that can be seen by the BIOS/OS you're fine there.

danomite664
07-17-03, 01:14 AM
ok, i will try that. but what i dont get is why i even have to do that. if it's all that trouble to get the 2500 to work, they shouldnt say that the board supports up to the xp2600+, especially if their fsb is 333 when the board is only 266. also, whats the best/easiest way to change the multiplier and stuff on this board?

AKULA
07-17-03, 01:15 AM
On second thought combo boards have a rather nasty habbit of forgetting such usefull things as multipliers.....

*Wonders why Windows auto-update picks now to turn on.....*

I thought I turned that silly thing off?

AKULA
07-17-03, 01:17 AM
Originally posted by danomite664
ok, i will try that. but what i dont get is why i even have to do that. if it's all that trouble to get the 2500 to work, they shouldnt say that the board supports up to the xp2600+, especially if their fsb is 333 when the board is only 266. also, whats the best/easiest way to change the multiplier and stuff on this board?

Early XP 2600+ chips where 266 FSB parts......there's your answer.

danomite664
07-17-03, 01:18 AM
oh, i got ya. sorry if i seem like a ******, im really not i swear :)

AKULA
07-17-03, 01:42 AM
http://download.msi.com.tw/support/mnu_exe/E6738v1.0.exe

I'll look through that and see if something jumps out at me....

*Notices sig*

Might want to look into the stepping of that 2500+ and see if it's any good. :)

AKULA
07-17-03, 02:13 AM
Section 3-28

You got access to the FSB there for some extra MHz....but it seems to be a bust on altering the multiplier......Looks like this mobo was dreamed up when AMD was still locking their CPUs.....so unless a bios update opens a new door that 2500+ will never run at rated speed on that board....but any other 133 FSB part currently around in large numbers will just fine.