Fastest Classic Athlon

[oc jason]

I have a classic 600 slot athlon-and i wanaa know what is the fastest processor(stock) i can get in this setup? 1 gig? 1.1 gig? 1.2gig? and if i go with the highest mhz how will that compare to a socket at the same speed?-i just wanna know if i need to upgrade my mobo to accomodate a socket processor-but i dont have the money yet!

[wild_andy_c]

Take a look at the CPU database on the mainpage - that should let you know just what to expect. I don't think that you'll realise 1200Mhz though!!!

[Murphy]

liquidfusion (Mar 06, 2001 07:09 a.m.):
I have a classic 600 slot athlon-and i wanaa know what is the fastest processor(stock) i can get in this setup? 1 gig? 1.1 gig? 1.2gig? and if i go with the highest mhz how will that compare to a socket at the same speed?-i just wanna know if i need to upgrade my mobo to accomodate a socket processor-but i dont have the money yet!

The maximum for slot-A the official way is 1000MHz (10x), the highest by AMD released slot-A athlon. With a GFD you can set up to 10.5x, so you can reach 1050MHz at standard FSB max., higher speeds with higher FSB in FSBxMULTIPLYER=CORE.
Difference between thunderbird and classic athlon is ONLY that the l2 cache (a mojor problem in oc'ing) running at 1/2 2/5 or 1/3 core speed on the pcb(slot-A) has moved to on-die l2 cache running at full core speed (socket-A).
Since the l2 caches cpu-instructions and calculations, full speed on-die helps a bit. So going to a new mobo (with more future posibilities, for Tbird up to 1.4GHz and for some even palominos) depends mainly on your future planning or how much money you are willing to offer for a tiny speed increase now because of l2. If your planning to buy a total new system and if you have the option, go socket. But sticking to slot-A is nothing wrong with.
And yes, you need a new mobo for a socket cpu, there will be no slotkets etc.
Hopes this explaines your questions,
the die-hard slot-A athlon fan :)

[oc jason]

thanks alot man- that was some really good info , i have decided to stay with the sot because it runs just fine for me and even thought my BIOS sux-i am gettin a Northwind GFD and try to OC her. I have good ram and am about to upgrade to 512mb. Ill go with the 1gig or so and see what i can OC her to, thanks for the input

[Murphy]

liquidfusion (Mar 06, 2001 06:20 p.m.):
thanks alot man- that was some really good info , i have decided to stay with the sot because it runs just fine for me and even thought my BIOS sux-i am gettin a Northwind GFD and try to OC her. I have good ram and am about to upgrade to 512mb. Ill go with the 1gig or so and see what i can OC her to, thanks for the input

Good luck with the oc. IF you are going to remove the heatplate, have a look at what core and l2-cache chips you have, and let me know! I'm interrested in these things, so are the people on the cpu-database ;). Maybe I'm going for a slot-A 700 if I can get one, they OC real good, you know. See if I can increase my seti times LOL.

[wild_andy_c]

Although I don't see 1050Mhz being anything like an expectable frequency. I may be wrong however - I hope so.

[oc jason]

i think this is what u mena-my core is a 0.25 micron( i no thats not near as goos as the 0.18 ) and the cache chip is 512k at 1/3 speed but with the GFD, and a program the lets me set my cache to 1/2 1/3 or 2/5 the im gonna try for a gig. Also how does the GFD work my mobo is 100FSB and i cannot change anything in BIOS so what does my GFD change the FSb or Multiplier?

[Murphy]

liquidfusion (Mar 08, 2001 08:50 a.m.):
i think this is what u mena-my core is a 0.25 micron( i no thats not near as goos as the 0.18 ) and the cache chip is 512k at 1/3 speed but with the GFD, and a program the lets me set my cache to 1/2 1/3 or 2/5 the im gonna try for a gig. Also how does the GFD work my mobo is 100FSB and i cannot change anything in BIOS so what does my GFD change the FSb or Multiplier?

GFD changes multiplyer. If you can't set your mobo's FSB by bios, you can set it by jumpers on your mobo, read your manual for this. When finding your maximum multiplyer always leave the FSB to 100. If you feel you need to, you can after maxing out the multiplyer also try to upp your FSB a bit, what I can't recommend you according to my own experience. Caused nothing but trouble for me (unstable systems, blue screens).

Sorry to say, but 1gig is not very probable. 800 good, 850 very good. 900about max, much cooling/voltage needed. Depends much on your core, what it was made for (see under heatsinkplate). My 650 core did 800. Hope you are lucky :)

[oc jason]

its ccol- i ordered a Duron 800 and a FIC AZ11e mobo to do the job i can t=run the mobo at 100/133 mhz and the ram can be a synchronous so its all good-only $190-i think its a good deal, so ill get over a gig (i think)