ddr/amd question

[tgp]

hey all. first post here. so go easy on the memory noob hehe.

ok, ive got a question. im about to build up another comp to play around with overclocking with. and the memory really has me stumped.

this is what im looking at buying so far:

amd 1700+ jihub 0319
abit nf7-s ver2.0
gainward gf3 ti200
550w PS (15$!!! :) )

gonna voltage mod the nf7-s and the ti200.

so im trying to get somewhere around the 2700-3000mhz range.
(by using a phase change rig i made, and later some LN2 i can get for cheap).

i know i cant get anywhere near 250mhz FSB without good ram. i know my board and my 1700+ can do it tho.

so the main thing im trying to do right now is keep the price as cheap as possible. right now i have about 275$ in my whole comp (not bad eh?)
reason im saying that is cause i only want 256mb of memory. i dont need alot, ill just be playing counter strike and messing around with o/c'ing.

therefore, i was thinking, will a single chip of DDR ram even utilize the DDR feature?
so when a ram has 400mhz (like pc 3700 or whatever) its really just 200mhz single and thats mutiplied using DDR to equal 400mhz right? well, is the only way i can get 400mhz is by using 2 seperate sticks?

SO this is what im trying to do in a nutshell:
-somewhat inexpensive ram
-will help me get possible 250mhz on the FSB by using ONLY 256MB
-low latency (2 maybe?)

hit me up with some ideas.
look forward to hearing your responses!

laters.
t

[stan03]

sorry off topic, but what ps.... i wouldn't get it if i were you 15 bucks?

[tgp]

well, its a "Extremo Power" power supply. but its 550 watts and its under 20 bucks @ str8buy.com , and who cares if it blows up, it can blow up 3 times and youll still be under the price of a frickin antec or an expensive one. i just dont think its reasonable for me to spend 50-100$ on a power supply.

[q149]

I don't think you will be seing FSB that high without doing the L12 mod to your cpu first.

[tgp]

you dont think by cooling NB, cpu, and vid cpu -20c and using good ram will get me a 250fsb?

[q149]

Not without the L12 mod or a 333 fsb cpu... and some luck.

[tgp]

hmm...ill keep that in mind. i knew i couldnt hit 250FSB/3ghz with a 1.47 chip unless i did ln2 anyways.


ive read somewhere where a guy was getting better FSB using one ddr stick of ram rather than the dual. any thruth to this?

so say i want to do that, what ram will get me to that fsb? keep in mind that its ONE stick on a nf7-s v2 board. and 256.

[tgp]

*bump*
sorry guys. i hope someone sees this.
i really wanted to order something tonight or in the morning. thats why im being a pest.

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so what brand/speed or ram can i get to go up to 250FSB on a 1700+, it has to be ONLY one stick of 256!
plez help!

[q149]

Well, you can hit 250 FSB and keep cpu at only a bit over 2ghz.. The reason you need to do the L12 mod is because you have an NF-7 v2.0 and ussually you will max out around 220's cpu limited with a 266 fsb cpu unless you do the mod.. It was the opposite witih the earlier revisions and this is only specific to the nf-7 rev2.0.

Trying to get to 250 will be a crap shoot and you will def need Vdd and Vdimm mods.

You could get HyperX or OCZ PC4000.. it's actually rated for ddr500.. they are geared towards Intel though and might have to run crap timings.. There's also OCZ 3700 but it dosen't seem to do so well on AMD either. It's possible to get 250 or close with HyperX 3500 or Corsair XMS 3500c2..

[stan03]

Originally posted by tgp
well, its a "Extremo Power" power supply. but its 550 watts and its under 20 bucks @ str8buy.com , and who cares if it blows up, it can blow up 3 times and youll still be under the price of a frickin antec or an expensive one. i just dont think its reasonable for me to spend 50-100$ on a power supply.

not if it fries all your equipment with it... and that quite possible

[CrashOveride]

Dont get that PSU. Try Fortron 350w. It's only 35ish and has a really good rep. don't be discouraged by the "350w" it out does itself.

That 550w is probably not 550 and probably has VERY bad lines.

[Jen]

i'm useing a 1700+ without modifications to the processor and it will work up to 232 fsb which is limitation of my motherboard. or am i wrong in thinking this



Jen

[stan03]

could be heat, could be ram... im not sure if its your mobo

[emericanchaos]

surprised no one mentioned this already. you don't need to volt mod this motherboard on anything. maybe memory if that doesn't go high enough for you. with good NB cooling the reg voltage adjustment should be fine.

oh yeah and someone said if you flash to the newest BIOS you can raise the FSB up to 300Mhz.

[tgp]

hmm..ive seen a guy do a 227FSB on this board. you really think its gonna be hard to get to 250 even with a cooled NB, cpu, and vid cpu, and vMods on mobo and vid card?

what will that stock 200fsb 1700+ go up to?

ive just seen alot of people running 2400mhz on air with that chip, and around 2700mhz on water that wasnt even chilled. so im thinkin, heck, why couldnt i get up to 3000 with ln2 or chilled water?

is something not adding up here?

thx for the help!
laters.
t

[tgp]

oh, and do you really think that 550watt ps is bad?

they say its "Certified by UL, CB, CE, TUV, & FCC" and its "P4 and AMD certified".

hmm... i just thought i would go ahead and get something more than 350 or 400 cause i would probably be doing vmods to my mb and vid card. thought i would need as much as i can get.

hmm..or i could get this one:

http://www.dealsonic.com/po55atxdufan.html

which is also 550 watts but isnt a lame name like "extremo power" and its just 15$ more.ill have to check the reseller rating on this company tho.

let mek now what your think.

thx!

[tgp]

*news*

woah. that company has a kickass rating. 9.74!