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scanido
07-22-03, 05:59 PM
Well i got this new card today and am very pleased with the 2D quality so far on the DVI connection. The black text are darker and the image is a bit sharper. I'm very happy with this purchase.
I quickly ran some UT2003 and BF1942 and the image is superb with the AA and AF on. Nothing amazing, but well worth it from the 9000Pro i came from!
How do these cards generally overclock? I just need a range to set my goals on. I already checked the ATI OC sticky but there are no numbers for this card...
Thanks...
Thats ATis first card built on the .13u process, all of the other cards were built on .15u or higher. In short they overclock like mad and if you decide to volt mod it they go even higher. They also stay pretty cool because of the .13u core. 500/720 sounds like a good goal to start with to me but then again I don't have my own to play with so I may be wrong.
These generally have the potential for over 500 on core. But that was the early versions. And since then OC ability has been mixed. They start at 400 right? If you can get to 500 that is really good. Just keep going up... like 10mhz iincreases at first.. then slow down to 5mhz increases, keep going on core 1st untilll you get instability. Use your fav game or bench to test for artifacts.
Then do the same for the memory by itself. See where each one maxes out alone. Then find the happy midpoint when both core and mem are overclocked.
scanido
07-22-03, 06:52 PM
500Mhz on the core, thats insane! THe highest i got my 9000Pro was 305Mhz. I can't imagine what this card would be like if it had the full 8 pixel pipeline like the 9500Pro. Maybe thats what their going to incorporate on the R360. Who knows, but that'll sure be smoking!
This card runs like a champ already at stock settings!
It'll see how far i can push it...
My sig isn't updated yet, but I have a 9600 pro. Check if you have 2.8 ns memory, most do. I can hit 510/355 without any problems. In the rage3d forums, a few people got their cards up to 600 core with volt mods (no great increases in memory clocks yet).
scanido
07-22-03, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by Movax
My sig isn't updated yet, but I have a 9600 pro. Check if you have 2.8 ns memory, most do. I can hit 510/355 without any problems. In the rage3d forums, a few people got their cards up to 600 core with volt mods (no great increases in memory clocks yet).
how do i know if i got the better mem chips? mine says:
SAMSUNG 319
K40263238E-GC33
Question: Should i test for stability with AA and AF on or with it off?
I'm guessing the settings should be MAXED out to stress the card to its fullest, but i never actually gone in depth about this?
How do you guys do it?
I think the memory you have is 3.3ns. But its still Samsung so it should still OC better than Infineon *shudders*.
You installed the Catalyst control panel right? It has all the controls for AA, AF, and all the rest.
yah isnt their a proggie that overclocks vid cards?
There is usually a number (or number and letter on the ram) that denotes what speed it is rated to run at. 2.8ns RAM has 2A written on it, the 33 would mean it is 3.3ns which is rated to run at 300mhz. you just divide 1000/ns, in your case 1000/3.3=303mhz. That RAM may not overclock that much since it is only rated for 303mhz.
http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/common/product_list.jsp?family_cd=GME0202
You can use Rage3d or powerstrip (search for them on google) to overclock.
You can stability test with AA/AF on or off but test both (on and off) once you get to the overclock you like just to be sure you won't have any problems regardless of those settings.
scanido
07-23-03, 01:10 AM
Originally posted by DaddyB
There is usually a number (or number and letter on the ram) that denotes what speed it is rated to run at. 2.8ns RAM has 2A written on it, the 33 would mean it is 3.3ns which is rated to run at 300mhz. you just divide 1000/ns, in your case 1000/3.3=303mhz. That RAM may not overclock that much since it is only rated for 303mhz.
http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/common/product_list.jsp?family_cd=GME0202
You can use Rage3d or powerstrip (search for them on google) to overclock.
You can stability test with AA/AF on or off but test both (on and off) once you get to the overclock you like just to be sure you won't have any problems regardless of those settings.
Thanks for the informative post! I did notice that if i enable AA and AF i could actually overclocl my memory to 350Mhz. Once there was No AA and No Af i immediately got artifacts just from the desktop. I had to lower it to 335Mhz.
After a few hours of testing i have settled on 500Mhz/335Mhz.
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Hedgehogforprez
07-23-03, 01:38 AM
Originally posted by DaddyB
There is usually a number (or number and letter on the ram) that denotes what speed it is rated to run at. 2.8ns RAM has 2A written on it, the 33 would mean it is 3.3ns which is rated to run at 300mhz. you just divide 1000/ns, in your case 1000/3.3=303mhz. That RAM may not overclock that much since it is only rated for 303mhz.
http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/common/product_list.jsp?family_cd=GME0202
You can use Rage3d or powerstrip (search for them on google) to overclock.
You can stability test with AA/AF on or off but test both (on and off) once you get to the overclock you like just to be sure you won't have any problems regardless of those settings.
Sorry if this seems like a flame or a poke at possible stupidity ( It's my stupidity sry ;) ) But if a card has 2.8ns memory wouldn't that mean its virtual highest overclock would be 280mhz on the ram...and 7.5ns mem would be able to hit 750mhz??? :confused:
thats ok.
It works the way I said 1000/ns, therefore the lower the ns (nano seconds BTW) the better.
The ns is the time between clock cycles so if you have 250mhz RAM (mhz meaning million times per second) then you can divide 1 (second) by 250,000,000mhz to get 0.000000004 or 4ns (billionth of a second). Back to the formula I first posted 1000/4=250mhz. Of course most RAM now is DDR so it actually reads/writes twice per clock which is why it would be called 500mhz.
JethroDOod
07-23-03, 05:53 PM
Awesome card, got mine clocked to 540/338 cas1 via bios edit.
vmodded it and heatsinked her up, fun card to mess with.
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