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I had a Duron 800 CPU and ended up ruining it after I had to take off and put back on the heatsink several times because the pencil markings faded. I was talking to a friend and he mentioned something about a device that attaches to the processor it self and bridges the L1 dots for you. He also said that they are very hard to come by but I want to do the overclocking the right way this time. If anyone knows what I am talking about and where I can find it that would be great. My 800 went to a gig easily and I want to get this 850 over that but I dont want to do the pencil thing if I dont have to.
I believe I know what you are talking about, but I would not call it the "right" way to do it. What you refer to (I believe) is a tape that you put on the cpu that, if lined up correctly, easily crosses the bridges for you. That bad part is that these cost in the $20-$30 range. Most of the overclockers in here would agree that the best ways to cross the bridges are with a conductive pen, or a rear window defrost kit which can be easily be bought at the local auto repair shop. A pencil is not ideal because the conductivity will evevtually wear out resulting in you having to revove the CPU fan to recross the bridges. This is not something you want to do very often because you run the risk of your fan damaging the die on your CPU (Trust Me, I Know). If you have a steady hand and a magnifying glass, try the pen or the kit. If that is a problem for you, and you have the money to burn, maybe the tape is the right decision for you. I can't remember exactly what link you can find this tape at, but I am sure someone will post it in no time.
new2overclocking
03-19-01, 12:42 PM
I wouldn't be too concerned about the pencil trick. Lots of people have done it and lots of people have had it working for a long time without problems. I don't know if the statement about it "fading away" is true; the conductivity doesn't just "go away" on its own. It would have to be brushed or wiped off, as might happen if you're replacing your heat sink. Then again, I'm sure a lot of people will complain that theirs "just wore off" too. Mine's fine, so I don't worry about it much. Do what you feel comfortable with. The conductive paint idea seems to be popular.
www.Plycon.com has the conductive plastic tape stuff. It's expensive.
Please understand that I am not flaming or, in any way contridicting you, but I read at forums everywhere, and the number one thing that kills a processor is installation or removal of these HSF...ESPECIALLY the Chrome Orb. The pencil trick is not permanent. Graphite is a good conductor, but it is also very easily smeared, rubbed or plain gets separated someway. Very few ppl are reporting long time success with the pencil trick, and more and more are going to the conductive ink, or the defogger deal. Over at the Hardforum, recently, one guy admitted he had all kinds of faith in the graphite, and it had run flawlessly for months. He had flamed others when they said to do it with the defogger or conductive ink for permanence...then, his quit...so, off came the HSF to check the traces...he chipped his 1.2 T-bird and killed it. I really don't think I would take the chance myself.
The Chomper
03-21-01, 05:43 AM
Use The Tape It's A Bit Tougher but MUCH MORE SAFER!
I just wasted $23 trying the multiplier tape. I installed and repositioned several times, and all the tape would do is stop the system from booting. When I tried the pencil trick, it worked fine. Next will be conductive pen for a permanent fix.
the conductive pen or defogger kit definitely seems the best way to go. highest success rate and a good, permanent fix if you get it right. and you can do loads of chips with one pen or kit.
glad i read this ,i have had my heatsink off 4 or five times penciling eraseing,penciling and finally got the defogger paint and used a sharp thoothpik to connect,and it still has to be removed again for the arctic silver!guess i will be more carefull in the future.
Best thing with pencil is that if u F*** up....... it F***s off.... EASILY.
i found that a pacer pencil is the best to use.
I've done it both ways, pencil and the defogger kit. right now I have one of each running with no problems, I still like the more permanent defogger/conductive ink though, a little peace of mind.
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