burning copyrighted CD's

[AshlarZiven]

i bought a CD off of the internet, from a relatively small label. i have ordered 6 or 7 other cd's from them (dancing ferret discs at isotank.com ) and have had no problems copying the discs so i have a car set and a home set of cd's.
the most recent disc (the cruxshadows' "frozen embers") i tried to burn on a lite-on 52x drive with nero burning rom 6.0. i did "audio disc", and "copy on the fly", and before beginning, got a copyrighted disc error. is there any way to get around this?

btw, it also sucks because the cd will not play reliably in the drive when i want to listen to it. i have better speakers on the pc than on the stereo, and i want to use them.

i was told that i could make an iso of the disc as data and then copy the iso to the hard drive and then burn that, but i dont trust myself to do that reliably. is there any other way?

[eh?]

use clonecd. And do an exact copy. That should do it. I also used to do this, becaues i had to run upstairs, go to the drivers side, open the trunk, go to the trunk, wait for the 6 disc changer to spit the disc out, find it somewhere in the 6 sleeves, and then go back downstairs.....

I either burned them to another cd, or i burned them to mp3s

[Cowboy Shane]

edit: the mods can handle this how they see fit.

[eh?]

That is incorrect. This is the same princaple of copying a vhs. Hes not distrubting it to anyone, hes just make another copy for him.

[PLtNmHeLiX]

exactly. backups are perfectly legal as long as you're the only using them

[Cjwinnit]

Cowboy Shane had the right idea.

If you are in a country that guarantees you can make a backup of anything you get then it's ok. I know Ireland would approve (legal there), and I believe (not sure) that you can circumvent copy restriction for personal backup purposes in the UK. Remember it has to be a backup of what you already own, not a copy of someone else's.

This is illegal in the US however. Sorry AshlarZiven, but as you are in the US you can't do this.

Originally posted by PLtNmHeLiX
Backups are perfectly legal as long as you're the only using them

Depends. Hacking copy protection is illegal in the US under the DMCA. As this site is based in the US I get the feeling this thread doesn't have long to live.

[CPFitz14]

As far as I understand it, it is perfectly legal to make as many copies as you want, as long as you are the sole listener, and you aren't handing them out to people, or sharing them on the internet. I'm pretty sure that the same rule that the UK has applies here: you can circumvent copy restriction for personal backup purposes. I'm not so sure about circumventing the whole copyright... that may or may not be discussable. I'll leave it up to the mods, and go into more detail if this thread sticks around.

In the mean time, if the cd will play on your computer, then why not just drag and drop the wav files onto your hard drive via My Computer. Then just make sure they are in order, burn them, and voila, a copy of the cd.;)


-CPFitz-

[Cjwinnit]

Originally posted by CPFitz14
As far as I understand it, it is perfectly legal to make as many copies as you want, as long as you are the sole listener, and you aren't handing them out to people, or sharing them on the internet. I'm pretty sure that the same rule that the UK has applies here: you can circumvent copy restriction for personal backup purposes....

Just looked it up, and i'm afraid this is illegal for our US members:

The DMCA makes is a crime to "circumvent" copyright protection systems.

Sec. 1201, Circumvention of copyright protection systems

(2) No person shall manufacture, import, offer to the public, provide, or otherwise traffic in any technology, product, service, device, component, or part thereof..

The only way I can think of making a backup of it is to rip the CD tracks as very high-quality mp3's (320kbps, stereo, 44.1Khz) then make an audio CD from those mp3's, If copy protection doesn't stop you making mp3's. I wouldn't bother talking about killing copy protection here, the mods don't like it.

[pik4chu]

Originally posted by Cjwinnit


Just looked it up, and i'm afraid this is illegal for our US members:

The DMCA makes is a crime to "circumvent" copyright protection systems.



The only way I can think of making a backup of it is to rip the CD tracks as very high-quality mp3's (320kbps, stereo, 44.1Khz) then make an audio CD from those mp3's, If copy protection doesn't stop you making mp3's. I wouldn't bother talking about killing copy protection here, the mods don't like it.

i read that ruling a bit differently, maybe cause its not all there but it seems as long as no one else gets it from you or like sees you have it, its perfectly legal.. but its ok.. cause the stuff I got isnt licensed in the USA so its all good :)

[druidelder]

On a side note, Philips would frown on you calling that copyrighted disc a CD. If it is labeled as such, you can actually tell Philips and they may go after the company that makes them. Philips holds the patent for CDs and has threatened suit against a number of companies for selling discs with the CD logo on it. There is no copyright protection in the specification for CDs. (Just some info.)

And yes, in the US you have the legal right to posess and make a copy for personal use if you retain the original. However, it is also true under the first paragraph of section 1201 that it is illegal to circumvent copy protection (except in limited cases). This means your right to make and posess a copy is useless when faced with a copyrighted disc.

Sec. 1201. - Circumvention of copyright protection systems


(a) Violations Regarding Circumvention of Technological Measures. -


(1)


(A)

No person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title. The prohibition contained in the preceding sentence shall take effect at the end of the 2-year period beginning on the date of the enactment of this chapter.

[AshlarZiven]

wow. thank you all, i really mean it. i wasunder the impression that it was okay as long as it was for me. i dont share files on any p2p program, and i dont really have any friends that would want a copy of my music, since they all have larger and more complete collections than i do thanks to file sharing which i frown on.

i will try clone cd, and if that doesnt work, i will just buy another copy of the cd. i dont want to be a criminal, even if its a stupid law.

*edit* no, it wont play reliably in my computer. there are skips and pops and hisses, if it plays at all. it wont play with the windows cd program, it wont play with realplayer, but it will kinda play with wmp. i havent tried winamp yet. and i cannot rip them as mp3's, either.
Sad AshlarZiven.

[pik4chu]

Originally posted by AshlarZiven
wow. thank you all, i really mean it. i wasunder the impression that it was okay as long as it was for me. i dont share files on any p2p program, and i dont really have any friends that would want a copy of my music, since they all have larger and more complete collections than i do thanks to file sharing which i frown on.

i will try clone cd, and if that doesnt work, i will just buy another copy of the cd. i dont want to be a criminal, even if its a stupid law.

*edit* no, it wont play reliably in my computer. there are skips and pops and hisses, if it plays at all. it wont play with the windows cd program, it wont play with realplayer, but it will kinda play with wmp. i havent tried winamp yet. and i cannot rip them as mp3's, either.
Sad AshlarZiven.

does it play just in a regular cd player? discman or something?

[orange400]

clonecd

it will do it. get the demo and it'll work just right.

Otherwise, you can do it the analog way ... play it from a cd player and record a big wavs on your hdd and just burn that. Gets around every copy protection that way!

[pik4chu]

Originally posted by orange400
clonecd

it will do it. get the demo and it'll work just right.

Otherwise, you can do it the analog way ... play it from a cd player and record a big wavs on your hdd and just burn that. Gets around every copy protection that way!

clonecd has been said several times... and it is NOT garaunteed to work... ive had it not work on cds that werent even protected at all...

[Ridenow]

Tough call
It is legal to make copies of media for your own use. However, these discussions and the information provided are often used for illegal activities. The forums does not support and can not permit any illegal activities. I am locking this thread.