PII 333 vs Celeron 433

[rommelrommel]

Those are my max choices in an old mobo I have. What will fold faster? I know both will suck :( But something is better than nothing.

[Maxvla]

i would say the p3 333 would fold faster since its got more cache.

i'm not that familiar with older chips however so i might be wrong.

[Sterculus]

I would go for the PII and try to overclock it as much as you can. I bet that the extra cache would probably give it enough of a boost to beat out the celly.

[MEMex]

I got a Celery 466.... it takes like 4 days to a week on up to complete a WU. I put that celery and its mobo back in the box and stuffed it in the corner :p... The pII should work faster since theres more cache on it. Thought i'd let ya know ;)

[rommelrommel]

Thanks :)

I don't think I have much for overclocking options, but I will stick with the PII

[JetMech]

Back in the day it was found that a Celeron 300A@450 could perform very close to a PII450@stock. The PIIs cache does not run at FSB. The Celerons cache runs at fsb. In my opinion since the WU is done in the cache the celly should process the work faster. But let's be scientific. You have the platform, chips, and information to do an experiment to determine which is better. In other words you tell us.:D

[Maxvla]

he is probably board-limited.

[MEMex]

Originally posted by JetMech
In my opinion since the WU is done in the cache the celly should process the work faster.

Hmm, i proly had a bad chip or something :D

[RoadWarrior]

I think there's a big difference between having no L2 and any L2, but little difference in 2 CPUs of similar clockspeed with different amounts of L2. So I'd go for the celeron. This is tinkers we're talking. I'd bet the PII 333 would do one of those 70 pointers in about 2 weeks, and the celly would take just over a week and a half. IMHO

Road Warrior

[JetMech]

I know the Celly has 128k running at FSB which if run stock would be 66mhz. The PII333s is running slower than 100FSB because PII didn't jump to 100 till the 350 but it's cache is 512k running slower than it's fsb. If you use the highest fsb it will run at. It would be great if you had a 300a so you could jump to 100mhz with the celly. The 466 has a 7 multiplier which is locked so it is not possible to run it at 100mhz. PII333s were not good overclockers unless used on a board which allowed small steps like the Asus P2B. What motherboard are you using?

[rommelrommel]

It's an asus P2L97. I don't actually have either of those cpu's right now, just a lame-o PII 266. The board doesn't even have 100mhz FSB support, so that's why I'm limited to the PII 333 or celeron 433, fastest 66mhz cpu's out there, and all the BIOS will support :)

I've got a copy of Win NT 4.0 in the mail, sick of Win 98, so I'm not doing anything for the next few days till it gets here.

Boy do I wish I could just win a few grand extra and do a caseless racked farm, but I guess these old things are better than nothing :)

[YviE]

I think you're better off with a Celeron.

[Cowboy Shane]

I had a celeron 466 that would run happily at 7*75 = 525. The chip would run fine on an 83 MHz bus, but some of my PCI devices didn't like running at 41.5 MHz. Get the Celery and see what it'll do.

edit: I should add that my board did have a 1/3 divider, but I found overall system performance was much better running a FSB of 75 with a PCI divisor of 1/2. It still overclocked the PCI bus, Memory, and AGP , but none of my hardware had any problems with 37.5 and I got much better memory scores at 37.5 (relative to typical scores of contemporary BX based boards of the time).

[RPM_Computing]

Celeron should work better.

I had a 300A as well and had it running as fast as a P-II 450 through benchmarks. Although they may be slow, they can still process WU's. I have a few old clunkers folding away and spitting out a WU every few days.

[sHoGuN990]

Hey, i have a old Cel 433@550 with 6.5x83, the default is bus speed is 66mhz and is the only thing that can be chaged because the multiplier is locked! if you were to put it up against a pII350 i would go the p2 coz lets face it Celerons suck.

[Mustanley]

That P2L97 board should support 83MHz FSB. Now so long as the hard drive and pci devices can handle it at that speed...