Looked around...Decided to get Duron 600 or should i go T-BIRD???

[Carmine_Paterno]

I looked around the forum, and found out that the Duron 600 is the way to go. I will be putting this chip on a EPOX 8kta3. How high should this chip go? I want to take it to about 1150...with a high fsb of maybe 150-155. I am not afraid of using high voltages(2.0-2.1) as i have taking my Celeron II 700 to 2.3v (default is 1.7v). I have a good cooling setup. Is this the way to go?

Also, do thunderbirds really have a big advantage over durons? I know they have more cache, but is it fair to say duron and tbirds are like celerons and pentium3??? Of course, i know that AMD's have much more performance behind them (thats why i am switching).
What is the default voltage on a duron 600?

Thanx!

[Hoot]

Assuming you have RAM that will reliably run at 150 FSB, chances are your Duron 600 will choke before that point, but not before hitting 1050. It should hit 8x133 reliably. Mine ran 10x100 reliably but no higher. Now, I got my KT-133A based board. I had it up to 9x133, but under extreme cooling setup. Namely, outside on a cold Minnesota night.

Hoot

[donnie]

Some one said (Ican't remember who) The differance between a T-Bird and a duron is: A Duron is a Porce and a T-Bird is a Mercedes. That is why you should go with the T-Bird.

[Eriksson]

I got both Tbird 1000@1250 and Duron700@1100, there is no question in my mind get a DURON. The Tbird has so little to offer over the Duron it is hard to justify the extra cost. Actually I have yet to see any performance difference beetween these two...

I would actually get a 600 Duron.

[Hoot]

I believe I read that running the Winbench suite, the two cpus, at the same speed, the Tbird was on average 8% faster.

Hoot

[trimai]

If you shop around for an AMD CPU right now, then I recommend a search for 1 Ghz Tbird with code AXIA on the second line. I just got one and it is right now only warm up at 1.1 Ghz. The information I got so far is that these CPU can easily achieve 1.3 -1.4 Ghz. With water cooling, 1.5 Ghz is within reach. For the price of 1 Ghz Tbird, I think it is a bargain.

[proze]

donnie (Mar 28, 2001 07:26 p.m.):
Some one said (Ican't remember who) The differance between a T-Bird and a duron is: A Duron is a Porce and a T-Bird is a Mercedes. That is why you should go with the T-Bird.

h3ll, i'd take a porsche over a merc any day, week, month or year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oh, and if money was not really an issue, i'd get a tbird. otherwise, the duron is also nice. :)

[[OC]_SR20DE]

ohhhh dont underestimate the peformance of Mercedes E55 AMG 4dr sedan. They fly!! kick Porsche 911 turbo's butt anyday.. E55 AMG hits about 197- 198 mph!!

[Carmine_Paterno]

Lol, i am gonna stick with my porche, mercedes might look nice, but porsches got the "umpf" i need (i will be playing quake3 NEED FOR SPEED HIGH STAKES has the 911 turbo my favorite game! LoL
600 duron is 40 bucks, and will do it for me.
Thanx ALL!
Not to mention my 8kta3 mobo

[oc jason]

why is it that the Durons actually OC more than the Tird with a lower cache-i cant help but to feel that getting a higher mhz chip is better for stability, but damn the $60- price for a Duron 700 or so looks GOOD. I mean they got less cache and will OC alot more than a Tbird-i dont want to hang up or have many errors in win2000 so im wondering if i should just get a gig+ chip or get a Duron and OC the hell out of her-also to get a Duron id need a new board(i got a classic slot) so even though the Duron is less money-id have to fork over 130 or so for a good board-so should i go with a Tbird slot-like a 1 gig?

[Hoot]

When I chose to dabble in overclocking, I accepted the fact that AMD was the way to go. I accepted the fact that a Socket A motherboard was the way to go. I accepted the fact that a quality Socket A motherboard would be more likely to stay with me as I progressed through this endeavor.
When I chose to dabble in overclocking, I felt that the greatest satisfaction would come from how much I could overclock a given CPU, so I bought a Duron 600 for three reasons. From reading, it was apparent that they love to be overclocked, it was the slowest Duron available and it only cost $40.00. I bought it and it overclocked at 10x100 as well as 8x133 easily. That was a 70% overclock. I felt great satisfaction. Wishing to expand my horizons, I then purchased the slowest Tbird available (650) for $59.00 and proceeded to overclock it to 10x100 as well as 7x133. Again I felt very satisfied.
From my observations, there are two schools of OC philosophy. Those who aim for maximum percentage overclocking and those who aim for maximum speed, no matter how much the CPU costs. The latter requires "deeper pockets". Both yield some form of satisfaction. Having achieved satisfaction with maximum percentage, I have now moved toward high total speed. I purchased a 1G/266 Tbird, which should arrive today or tomorrow. Another challenge about to begin. Examine what you want to achive in overclocking and invest your money appropriately. Remember, CPUs come and go. Good Motherboards, good Heatsinks, good PSUs, Good Cases remain behind. Invest wisely.

Hoot

[cntw82oc]

Hoot (Mar 29, 2001 07:37 a.m.):
When I chose to dabble in overclocking, I accepted the fact that AMD was the way to go. I accepted the fact that a Socket A motherboard was the way to go. I accepted the fact that a quality Socket A motherboard would be more likely to stay with me as I progressed through this endeavor.
When I chose to dabble in overclocking, I felt that the greatest satisfaction would come from how much I could overclock a given CPU, so I bought a Duron 600 for three reasons. From reading, it was apparent that they love to be overclocked, it was the slowest Duron available and it only cost $40.00. I bought it and it overclocked at 10x100 as well as 8x133 easily. That was a 70% overclock. I felt great satisfaction. Wishing to expand my horizons, I then purchased the slowest Tbird available (650) for $59.00 and proceeded to overclock it to 10x100 as well as 7x133. Again I felt very satisfied.
From my observations, there are two schools of OC philosophy. Those who aim for maximum percentage overclocking and those who aim for maximum speed, no matter how much the CPU costs. The latter requires "deeper pockets". Both yield some form of satisfaction. Having achieved satisfaction with maximum percentage, I have now moved toward high total speed. I purchased a 1G/266 Tbird, which should arrive today or tomorrow. Another challenge about to begin. Examine what you want to achive in overclocking and invest your money appropriately. Remember, CPUs come and go. Good Motherboards, good Heatsinks, good PSUs, Good Cases remain behind. Invest wisely.

Hoot

Well put Hoot!

and a Porsche 911 Turbo would dust a E55 AMG...the only thing the Merc has is a few mph on top speed...the 911 Turbo takes the crown on acceleration!!

[AZZKICKER]

why did you choose the epox board

there are better boards out there that offer more and are more stable

the IWill board is rocking hard and the Abit boards are really nice (love my KT7A-RAID).......stay away from asus though

have had nothing but problems out of there socket A boards....made me hate asus after using them for the last 5 years

[trimai]

AZZKICKER,

I am in the same situation as you are. I have been using Intel and Asus for a long time. Now I switch to AMD and my new board is ABIT KT7A (no RAID).
You are right, Asus is not the same lately. I am not even certain the new A7V133 will be compatible with the upcoming Palomino.

[AKDUDE]

EPOX sucks, I would not even own one! ;)

[cntw82oc]

Anandtech tested the new MicroStar 266 board...they said that it was the most stable, even more than the new IWILL and Abit

could be a fluke of course...but i thought it was interesting to see it perform as well