I Need to Compare My P3 to Any of Ya's Duron's Sandra Mem Benchy, Post Yours Here!

[[OC]_SR20DE]

Hi ya, I own P3 700E overclocked to 1064. However, I have the Sandra's Memory benchmark for 1057mhz speed. I haven't benched the 1064 yet but shouldn't be much different. I hear that the Durons are just fantastic and good overclocker. I hear that they even wipe P3 in some apps benchy.

So I want to see the Memory benchy on the Durons overclocked performance. Say... Duron 700mhz overclocked to around 1050 to 1060mhz. I want fair mhz to mhz comparison. Post your benchmark!! Also, please post your CPU benchy if you could.. not Multimedia.
I have already posted my Memory benchy here.. I will post the CPU bench later.. Thanks..

MilkPowder from Intel CPU forum section.

[rc]

Might get better comparison from the CPU Database link on the home page. 8-)
rc

[[OC]_SR20DE]

I dont see any Memory benchy for Duron and P3s at CPU Database link. I need some of yas post some benchy here. Thanks..

[Wega!]

I beat u (In one of them :) )

494/507 That's a Duron @ 9,5x103= 978MHz 128MB 133MHz RAM at cas2

I am at school, so I don't have the pic's.

[[OC]_SR20DE]

Walter:-( (Mar 29, 2001 02:56 a.m.):
I beat u (In one of them :) )

494/507 That's a Duron @ 9,5x103= 978MHz 128MB 133MHz RAM at cas2

I am at school, so I don't have the pic's.


Nice.. but emm.... have u carefully looked at my memory bench score?? it says 475MB ALU and 582MB FPU. that fpu ram score is nearly 600. yours is only 19 score more than my ALU and 75MB less than my FPU mem score. That's quite a bit of difference even if you had yours upto 1050. hehehe.... Sorry.. I won.. hehehe.... :D

[[OC]_SR20DE]

Walter:-( (Mar 29, 2001 02:56 a.m.):
I beat u (In one of them :) )

494/507 That's a Duron @ 9,5x103= 978MHz 128MB 133MHz RAM at cas2

I am at school, so I don't have the pic's.

Nice.. hehe... it says.. 475MB/s ALU and 582MB/s FPU mem. you only had 19 MB/s scores more than my ALU memory and 75MB/s less than my FPU mem score hehehehe..... even if you had yours upto 1050, i still would've beaten you, heeheehee... Sorry m8! you lost... hehe..

Ok... one down, others to go.... hehe.. Anyone else?? and be sure to post the actual screen shot of this benchying.. thanks :)

[Eriksson]

Duron 700@112 fsb with memory running at 149mhz scores in the 550/620 range on my KT7-R board.

This is however great numbers for your P3.. congrats..
I am stuck here at work with P3 800EB @852 and it scores 377/471.

[[OC]_SR20DE]

Eriksson (Mar 29, 2001 05:20 a.m.):
Duron 700@112 fsb with memory running at 149mhz scores in the 550/620 range on my KT7-R board.

This is however great numbers for your P3.. congrats..
I am stuck here at work with P3 800EB @852 and it scores 377/471.

wow.. that's nice score on your Duron. I thought so... I had feeling they'd have better score.. Even another guy from other web site, his Duron overclocked less than mine and beat me, what a shame for P3s.. lol.. Durons must have better memory bus speed, I read about it.. no wonder.. hehe.

I have a question though. I'm trying to learn more about the T-birds and Durons.. because I dont know much about them at all. How do you tune up your fsb@ 112 and your memory@ 149mhz separately?? How does it work? How do you do it? I don't know.. explain to me please..any of ya. Thanks.. :)

[JJ32]

LOL! Anyway, if it's Memory bench you want you will get worked bad with my setup. Scores are 587/618 with PC 133 clocked to hell and back. Duron 800 @ 1100 Mhz.

Abit KT7A
Duron 800 @ 1100
GlobalWin WBK 38 (Arctic Silver II) & Major Case Fans
386 MB PC 133 Xerox & Infineon
Guillemot Hercules GeForce2 MX (EA Speed setting)
SB Live 5.1
3Com NIC

**Damn Duron could OC more, but I have to voltage mod it.

**This is one of 3 Durons I have, and they are all @ 1100 wth same config.

**T-Bird 1.1 @ 1.35 GHZ

[[OC]_SR20DE]

JJ32, that's nice and good overclocking on your Duron.
You score is very good. but one thing... my bench was done at 1057mhz. and i got that score above.. Can you set your Duron to 1050mhz and run a mem bench?? and then please post your screen shot here,.. thanks.. :)

[Wega!]

MilkPowder® (Mar 29, 2001 03:22 a.m.):
Walter:-( (Mar 29, 2001 02:56 a.m.):
I beat u (In one of them :) )

494/507 That's a Duron @ 9,5x103= 978MHz 128MB 133MHz RAM at cas2

I am at school, so I don't have the pic's.

Nice.. hehe... it says.. 475MB/s ALU and 582MB/s FPU mem. you only had 19 MB/s scores more than my ALU memory and 75MB/s less than my FPU mem score hehehehe..... even if you had yours upto 1050, i still would've beaten you, heeheehee... Sorry m8! you lost... hehe..

Ok... one down, others to go.... hehe.. Anyone else?? and be sure to post the actual screen shot of this benchying.. thanks :)


He he... I'm not down yet! As I came home from school, I tried again, and it turned up that I had gotten it all wrong. I really get 495/607 in the test, sooooo
I BEAT U ;-)

[[OC]_SR20DE]

LOL... :)
uh oh... lol... looks like u got me.. Ok... where's the screen shot of that benchy you just updated?? hehehe... Post it pleasssssse.. and post the currently tested CPU mhz setting too.. just like what I have done. Thanks.. hehe.. ;D

[Eriksson]

MilkPowder® (Mar 29, 2001 01:18 p.m.):

I have a question though. I'm trying to learn more about the T-birds and Durons.. because I dont know much about them at all. How do you tune up your fsb@ 112 and your memory@ 149mhz separately?? How does it work? How do you do it? I don't know.. explain to me please..any of ya. Thanks.. :)

The VIA KT133 chipset can run the memory = fsb, or fsb + pci. At 112 mhz fsb speed the pci bus is running at 37mhz this gives memory speed = 112+37 =149 mhz.

And just for the record, sandra memory score is independent of cpu speed. Durons score the same under different multiplier values.

[fallout55]

I have a pic, but don't have a clue about how to post a pic on this board. Duron 700 @ 966 (161x6)..604ALU/728FPU..

[[OC]_SR20DE]

fallout55 (Mar 29, 2001 05:40 p.m.):
I have a pic, but don't have a clue about how to post a pic on this board. Duron 700 @ 966 (161x6)..604ALU/728FPU..

Thanks for the reply, Eriksson.


To Fallout55,

Danggggg!!!.. 604alu/728fpu??!! !@$#*&^%$@#! Ok........ you killed me. but not until you show me that screen shot( and others who have not posted their screen shot) Show me the CPU benchmark (not multimedia) scores from Duron users with similarly overclocked speed as mine @ 1057mhz also.. seriously,.. I really want to see them and depends how the memory and Cpu benchmark goes and if them Durons beat me in both tests, I will get convinced 100% that Durons are clearly the winner and wipe P3 in some benchy in no time.

To post your Pic on benchy, just click on "reply", then put a check mark next to "Preview your post and/or attach a file?" and then click "Post", it then will have you specify or browse your pic file where you have stored.. Upload it.. then you're done! I want to see your pic!! and here's my CPU benchmark score. cheers.. :)

[FRANK]

I'm going to buy me one of them PIII 700MHz cpu's and overclock it by 334MHz, as soon as I can find one for about $50.00.

Oh well I can't seem to find one for less than $200.00, I guess I'll buy "FOUR" DURON 600's and overclock them to at least 1100MHz!

[Hoot]

600 Duron 8x136 @ 1.9V Cheap unmatched pair of 128M PC133 CAS3 sticks.
Sandra 2001se Memory benchmark Int ALU 563 / Float FPU 611. I have a 256M PC150 CAS2 on the way. Will reply again, if any better.

Hoot

[AZZKICKER]

first off compairing a P3 to a Duron is wrong

its cellery Vs. Duron and P3 Vs. T BIRD

ill post mine in a few mins

[AZZKICKER]

here is something a P3 cant touch

this is my t bird running @ 160 FSB CAS2 -2 -2 TURBO !

[[OC]_SR20DE]

Azzkicker,
Of course I know that.. :) Since the AMD Athlon- T-Birds and Durons are so dang good I wanted to compare with Durons. I won't even compare with T-birds because there's no chance beating them any time anywhere.. lol. you see what im getting at? What im also trying to say is that I think Durons are even more than good enough to compare with P3s.. but finally.. I want to see your CPU benchmark (not multimedia) as well. So post both Memory and CPU benchy okie dokie? Thanks m8tty.

BTW, To others who posted on the last two reply except Azzkicker, POST YOUR SCREEN SHOT of your benchy so I can see them!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No Screenshot, I wont count them. hehehe...

Thank you.


MilkPowder.

[[OC]_SR20DE]

AZZKICKER (Mar 29, 2001 08:31 p.m.):
here is something a P3 cant touch

this is my t bird running @ 160 FSB CAS2 -2 -2 TURBO !

Azzkicker, you're way off. sorry m8tty, lol. I mean way off for fair comparison. I said I want to see "Duron" overclocked to 1050- 1060mhz, not a T-bird and what overclocked total mhz is that?? It's not fair to compare higher overclocked mhz than mine. Please be fair. I don't see it!! what mhz?? you didn't even post that in the attachment either. Common please.. be more theral...

Show me your complete support on showing what same mhz as mine on a Duron and post them all in one screen in the attachment, thank you... Please do it for me. Im not asking for flamewar or anything.. I just want fair and detail comparison.. this is for my own good. I'm not trying to bash Duron. :) thank you..


MilkPowder

[[OC]_SR20DE]

Azzattacker,
Where are you? I'm waiting for your answer.. :) are you working on it right now?.. or are u quiting? You dont have Durons?.. common say something pleasssse........ if you dont post anything here anymore then I'm gonna have to assume you dont have Duron and your CPU benchmark can't match mine, hehehe... Joke.. seriously, I want to see yours.

[AZZKICKER]

well for your info that was @ 975 mhz but a 160 fsb

ill do one @ 1050 @ 150 mhz fsb how is that?

[AZZKICKER]

look

[[OC]_SR20DE]

Thank you very much Mr. Asskicker :)

That helped me a lot. Let me make sure... is that benchy u just did is on a T-Bird or Duron?
Thanks again.. it is now clear that the T-birds and Durons have more option on overclocking and perform much better than P3s.. unfortunately, lol I get it now.. just let know if that was a T-bird or Duron,..

MilkPowder

[Hoot]

[BTW, To others who posted on the last two reply except Azzkicker, POST YOUR SCREEN SHOT of your benchy so I can see them!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No Screenshot, I wont count them. hehehe...

Thank you.


MilkPowder.[/quote]

This is a waste of bandwidth. How would we be helping you by not telling the truth? Since you insist upon this challenge, here are the results of my $40.00 Duron 600:
8x136 @ 1.9V with 2) 128M unmatched sticks of no-name PC133 Cas3.
Enjoy the viewing.

Hoot

[Hoot]

Hoot

[Hoot]

Hoot

[Hoot]

Hoot

[[OC]_SR20DE]

Hoot, yeah but yours is running at 1100mhz . I wanted to see 1050 or 1060mhz performance. you just gave me another unfair mhz comparison. hehehe..

[proze]

i'm not posting a screenshot cause i ran this ages ago and am not doing it again now.. it was done for an article for wildandyc.co.uk so i'm not yanking anyone's chain:

duron 600@1070 (107*10): sandra memory scores: 515/623.

not too shabby, hey?

[Hoot]

MilkPowder® (Mar 29, 2001 10:24 p.m.):
Hoot, yeah but yours is running at 1100mhz . I wanted to see 1050 or 1060mhz performance. you just gave me another unfair mhz comparison. hehehe..

Fair enough. I left the voltage at 1.9 and cut it back to 8x133=1066 Mhz, but I'm not doing the screenshot bull**** again.

Results:

Sandra 2001se

Mem 549/605
CPU 2963/1454
MMX 5782/7250

Hope this helps your cause.

Hoot

[AZZKICKER]

is dood blind or what

look at my signature

......................

[[OC]_SR20DE]

proze (Mar 29, 2001 10:29 p.m.):
i'm not posting a screenshot cause i ran this ages ago and am not doing it again now.. it was done for an article for wildandyc.co.uk so i'm not yanking anyone's chain:

duron 600@1070 (107*10): sandra memory scores: 515/623.

not too shabby, hey?


No, not to shabby at all. Nice score..

[[OC]_SR20DE]

Hoot (Mar 29, 2001 10:41 p.m.):
MilkPowder® (Mar 29, 2001 10:24 p.m.):
Hoot, yeah but yours is running at 1100mhz . I wanted to see 1050 or 1060mhz performance. you just gave me another unfair mhz comparison. hehehe..

Fair enough. I left the voltage at 1.9 and cut it back to 8x133=1066 Mhz, but I'm not doing the screenshot bull**** again.

Results:

Sandra 2001se

Mem 549/605
CPU 2963/1454
MMX 5782/7250

Hope this helps your cause.

Hoot


Sorry, but that's still not fair to me. You're still 9mhz OC'ed higher than mine and you didn't post the screen shot either, hehehe...

[[OC]_SR20DE]

AZZKICKER (Mar 29, 2001 11:19 p.m.):
is dood blind or what

look at my signature

......................

is dood deaf or what. hehe.. I said, post your Duron at 1050 or 1060mhz , not T-bird, how many times do I have to repeat? hehehe.... looks like you'll also need another pair of glasses, hehe.. pls dont take it offensive, im not suppose to be flaming.. I try to cool down , be patient controllin my anger, hehe...

[[OC]_SR20DE]

Ok... I think I'm done talking and found out enough of information. I sure see plenty of AMD-fans replying to my thread. I think you guys are cheappp... too afraid to spend money on buying a luxury processor i.e.. P3s or P4s. Ya want something real cheappppp engine(AMD chip), makes u go fast in the race temporarily but breaks before you get to the finish line... hahahaha..... Well, nice talking with all you. And I am going over to "Intel CPU" section now. Tah tah.... LMAO

[[OC]_SR20DE]

Uh oh..... what happened to AMD? LMAO
Oh my god.... look at the quakey benchy there... LOL.. I'm glad I had made a right decision and staying with Intel, lol :D

[[OC]_SR20DE]

Oh and before I really go .. here.. take that!! Durons... LMAO..

[fallout55]

<<To Fallout55,

Danggggg!!!.. 604alu/728fpu??!! !@$#*&^%$@#! Ok........ you killed me. but not until you show me that screen shot( and others who have not posted their screen shot) Show me the CPU benchmark (not multimedia) scores from Duron users with similarly overclocked speed as mine @ 1057mhz also.. seriously,.. I really want to see them and depends how the memory and Cpu benchmark goes and if them Durons beat me in both tests, I will get convinced 100% that Durons are clearly the winner and wipe P3 in some benchy in no time.

To post your Pic on benchy, just click on "reply", then put a check mark next to "Preview your post and/or attach a file?" and then click "Post", it then will have you specify or browse your pic file where you have stored.. Upload it.. then you're done! I want to see your pic!! and here's my CPU benchmark score. cheers..>>

Here goes nothing..I'm at 6x161..966mhz. I upgraded from a P3 to a duron about a month ago. This is with my new Corsair PC150 ram.. Just great!! This is what I got trying to post my mem scores..<<Error:
Your attachment was invalid, ther file format was incorrect, the file format is .
Please make any changes and try again!>>

[AoD]

Not to be egotistical or anything but, none of those scores come close to the P4 1.5ghz.. Hmm... :P

[AZZKICKER]

this powder dood is a ..........well i will not say what i was thinking

but to let you know something......amd performance depands on the board ALOT !

those benches your showing must have been on a POS board or something

i know i play @ 1024 x 768 everything crankled and 32 bit color on my T Bird and i pull between 175 - 350 FPS while playing quake3

my P3 700 @ 1008 NEVER ! got close to that

and all i use is a g force 2 card

no ultra ...no pro

just a regular g force 2

powder i think you just need to chill out and look for the light (AMD) because intel is old news and AMD is and going to be the biggest CPU's out and my AMD system is 50 times more stable than ANY intel machine i have !!!!!!!!!

this forum isnt for starting SH*T like your trying to do so go back to your INTEL board and post there and refrane yourself from coming here and acting like a ass

nite all

[[OC]_SR20DE]

I just noticed you annoyingly replied to my post. so I had to see what you typed.
You wanted to say something? "this powder dood is a....... " say what?.. are u chickened out? too afraid to use the word(s) because you could get bad remark or maybe get banned from this forum site? yes...

quote, "those benches your showing must have been on a POS board or something"

-->> Those Durons and T-birds were on a ASUS A7V - BIOS 1004C final
P3s and Celeron2s were on a ASUS CUSL2 - BIOS 1003
All of them with GeForce2 GTS 32mb


quote, "i know i play @ 1024 x 768 everything crankled and 32 bit color on my T Bird and i pull between 175 - 350 FPS while playing quake3"

-->> Hehehehe.... u're funny. hehe.. yeah of course.. if you're playing on a Lan with few other dudes or on a single player with 2 other bots, doh!! LMAO. everyone knows that, nothing new.. yeah and I get nearly 400FPS on mine , but i say u're funny the way you replied like this.. you dont look like that in the picture but you sure do have reactions that shows little kid-like childish.. is that really you? LOL. sorry, I didn't meant to upset you( I know u're upset right now,but pretending not.. ) ;D


And maybe you dont know how to tweak your P3 700 and maybe it's the "POS" board that you're using on this CPU instead. LOL


quote, "powder i think you just need to chill out and look for the light (AMD) because intel is old news and AMD is and going to be the biggest CPU's out and my AMD system is 50 times more stable than ANY intel machine i have !!!!!!!!!"

-->> yes, you're biased alright.. ROFL



quote, "this forum isnt for starting SH*T like your trying to do so go back to your INTEL board and post there and refrane yourself from coming here and acting like a ass"

-->> hmm... Are you really a Senior member?.. How did you become a Senior member? With that kind of attitude toward people in this forum, I don't see why you should become a senior member. I find it difficult to believe.. LOL

Was nice talking with you... Hope you learned the lessons and try to be a better person next time maybe?.. LOL. as you notice, I'm not mocked by you.. not even close. Good bye Kid... :)

[AoD]

Let me ask you something then, if these durons have a true 200mhz front side bus, why are they not even near twice a P3 700e bus? That is the question at hand, is AMD lying about thier "200" and "266" front side? I think so, and as for arguing... Only people who argue by name calling around here are the preschoolers and kindergarden children, yes I said children. This is a forum, not a romper room. As for this arguement, The durons can have a better frontside and possibly more power, but that isn't just by the CPU itself. That is determined by alot of your system components. But I have yet to see a Duron @ 200 Front side or a T-bird @ 266 front side double a P3's front side of it counter parts. You can call me biased all you want but until I see the truth, I am not going to believe AMD's little story. AMD do make nice chips, so do intel. The fact is that AMD really screwed up before and they are fully capable of doing it again, not saying Intel hasn't but AMD has made many more mistakes than Intel has.

That's my 2 cents, to bad it wasn't enough to call someone :)

[jmr89gt]

I get 585/669 Sandra mem scores with the setup in my sig.

[proze]

AoD (Mar 30, 2001 12:59 p.m.):
Let me ask you something then, if these durons have a true 200mhz front side bus, why are they not even near twice a P3 700e bus? That is the question at hand, is AMD lying about thier "200" and "266" front side? I think so, and as for arguing... Only people who argue by name calling around here are the preschoolers and kindergarden children, yes I said children. This is a forum, not a romper room. As for this arguement, The durons can have a better frontside and possibly more power, but that isn't just by the CPU itself. That is determined by alot of your system components. But I have yet to see a Duron @ 200 Front side or a T-bird @ 266 front side double a P3's front side of it counter parts. You can call me biased all you want but until I see the truth, I am not going to believe AMD's little story. AMD do make nice chips, so do intel. The fact is that AMD really screwed up before and they are fully capable of doing it again, not saying Intel hasn't but AMD has made many more mistakes than Intel has.

That's my 2 cents, to bad it wasn't enough to call someone :)

you have a point.. but i think i have an answer... i'm not sure what amd's official description of the ev6 technology is, but it's not really a 200mhz fsb. your fsb is the speed at which your proc communicates with your ram. if you look at a kt133 or kt133a chipset, the memory is not running at 200mhz or 266mhz, but only 100mhz,133mhz or whatever.. that's because ev6 only doubles the fsb speed on the processor side. i'm not really sure how this works on the technical side of things, but that's why you don't see scores that are twice as high. it's not a "true" 200mhz or 266mhz fsb. that's what ddr ram is meant to be for. why we're seeing such pathetic memory gains with ddr i don't know, but that's a different topic altogether! :)

as for flaming.. i think everyone should try to be civil when posting in a busy forum. but i'm afraid that if anyone's flaming in this thread, then it's you, milkpowder. it started as an interesting thread, but imho you turned it into an anti-amd thread. the fact of the matter is that amd chips are every bit as high quality and stable as intel nowadays, and are better performers overall mhz for mhz. and when price is taken into account, you just cannot argue for intel over amd. you're every bit as entitled to your opinion as the next guy, but then let others have their's as well, and don't "LOL" and "LMAO" their opinions when they state them. well, i'm done my rant... no flame intended to anyone. :)

[AZZKICKER]

proze (Apr 02, 2001 02:39 p.m.):
as for flaming.. i think everyone should try to be civil when posting in a busy forum. but i'm afraid that if anyone's flaming in this thread, then it's you, milkpowder. it started as an interesting thread, but imho you turned it into an anti-amd thread. the fact of the matter is that amd chips are every bit as high quality and stable as intel nowadays, and are better performers overall mhz for mhz. and when price is taken into account, you just cannot argue for intel over amd. you're every bit as entitled to your opinion as the next guy, but then let others have their's as well, and don't "LOL" and "LMAO" their opinions when they state them. well, i'm done my rant... no flame intended to anyone. :)




well said old friend

[[OC]_SR20DE]

Dear Azzkicker,
sorry but.. Proze was talking about you too. "the next guy"----> you, Azzkicker.
Just to let you know.. :D

Cheers. heehee

[Wega!]

I have been away for a couple of day's, but now I'm back.
If u don't believe me (Thinking about my mem scores), then too bad for u. I would have posted my pics, but I really don't like ur attitude, so u will have to live without my scores. I'm actually disappointed, because I thought the topic was going to be a good one, but I think that's to late now.....