ok well i picked out the 1.2 ghz processor tbird

[Jason]

now all i need is a mobo and what do you ppl think about a alpha + pelt from http://www.peltec.f2s.com thats the page im thinking of getting one from
just give me some choices on mobos :)

[Rob Cork]

I'd be tempted by the Iwill KK266-R or the Abit KT7a-R - they're the best mobos out IMHO (assuming the KK266-R is just as good as the KK266, with RAID). I'm sure others will think differently though, so it'll probably be hard to get a definite answer from the forums. As for the peltier, as long as you're aware of the risks of peltier cooling (though providing you take precautions it should be safe) go ahead. I dunno what power peltier you were planning on getting, but from what I've heard you really need 100W+ for any socket A cpu, especially the high-speed ones like yours. That pretty much puts it beyond the reach of aircooling, though the PEP66 might just cope (ideally I'd go with the swiftech MC462 or the new 'Millenium', when it's released) - watercooling would be better. I haven't actually done peltier cooling myself, so I'd wait to hear from someone that has tried with socket A (like Proze), but I guess they'll say pretty much the same - high powered pelt, watercooling :-)

Whatever you go with, have fun with it!

[Jason]

so just straight water cooling is good without a pelt to ? thats my other thing im looking at if i do buy something it would be from www.overclockershideout.com and it would be liquid cooled mobo liquid cooled processor and possibly my hercules 2 ultra

but im not to sure about liquid cooling with all that water in my pc :)

[Rob Cork]

I understand your concerns about the water - I thought guys watercooling were mad when I first heard about it. But I've been watercooling since Christmas (got it up and running on Christmas Day!), and I haven't had any leakage problems. I've just used jubilee-style hose clips on all connections, and some (like around the pump) I coated with epoxy glue to seal it for certain. I was quite nervous for the first week, but that quickly disappeared - I hardly even think about it anymore. I'd be more scared of peltier cooling - bringing the cpu and socket package below ambient temperature is great for performance, but you have to thoroughly insulate the socket and cpu with dielectric grease and/or silicone sealant to prevent condensation on the components near the peltier. If done properly, there won't be a problem, but I for one am not that confident yet... though I'll probably add a peltier to my watercooled setup in the summer :-)

By the way, watercooling is very effective - my PAL6035 kept my duron 600@1000, 1.94V at 43C max. Watercooled, this dropped to 38C max. I've now done the volt mod to my A7V, and at 2.2V (still 1000MHz) the max temp is 45C. I think with more careful planning I could have got better performance out of the watercooled system - the radiator is on top of the psu, where all the hot air is. With hindsight, it would have been better to put it at the front where the cool air comes in. Still it's great fun - if you can overcome the fear of water in your PC - go for it!

[proze]

imho, peltier cooling a high-end amd processor isn't worth it without a 156 or 172 watt peltier. i tried a watercooled 118w on my duron 600 at 1124 at 1.92v. yes, it does work well, but no, not well enough to warrant the effort. i'm running plain watercooling now which does a good job.

watercooling is scary at first, but if you're patient, and do a good job, then it's good fun building the rig and well worth it. just take all the necessary precautions and test it properly and you'll be fine. i suggest you really read up on it in the cooling section before buying or doing anything.

good luck and have fun!!! :)

[stool]

Rob and Proze are right. Watercooling can, at first, seem intimidating, but it is well worth the trouble. For both stability and quiet, with reliable cooling, water is the way to go.

[WinXP]

Water cooling is great nice an quiet, no more jet engines roaring. Just put your water cooling setup together an test it for a day before you place in computer. I just got a AMD 1.2 266 AX1A an runs 1410@1.75v water cooled runs 1450@1.85v but I run it at 1.75. Temps run 27C at idle an 36C loaded. Don't think I will ever go back to loud noisy fans.