need most powerful 80 mm in the world

[bulk88]

I need a very high power 80mm fan. I want atleast 60 CFM from it. I don't care about the noise. This is for a dual processor MB in a fairly tight case. The CPUs each have a hose feeding air to them from the front of the case. I can't put the side panels on becasue there will be too much air pressure inside the case. So I need a extreamly power fan to get rid of the air. Also I can't put any fans on the top or side of the case because this computer stands in a rack with computers above and to the sides and below it. The rear has 1 80mm opening.

[nerdlogic]

The Smart Fan II at full speed gives you 75CFM. It's not as noisy as a tornado. It's actually pretty quiet for me. you an also go with a noisy 80mm Tornado for 84CFM, if you'd like.

[bulk88]

Originally posted by nerdlogic
you an also go with a noisy 80mm Tornado for 84CFM, if you'd like.

Anything higher than 84 CFM? Remember this a server room, noise is irrelavent.

[The_Ryz_Factor]

Originally posted by bulk88


Anything higher than 84 CFM? Remember this a server room, noise is irrelavent.

From what've I've seen by looking through various webpages, I can't say that I've seen any 80mm fans higher than 84cfm.

[TomaHawk47x]

go with the tornado

[countermods]

if u really want high powered i could mod u an 80 mm fan with a 24,000 rpm motor on it but needs 18 volts to run it will run on 12 but wont be @ 24,000 rpm t will be a good150 cfm fan and loude

[MrBean]

go with the vantec tornado.

[Evnas]

another vote for the Tornado here. Its definatly the most powerful 80mm fan you can pick up under normal circumstances

[fubulg6000]

Go with vantec stealth... nice and quiet :D

hehe, just kidding. tornado is what your looking bulk88.

[unreal]

yeah tornado,, lol let him mod u one,, id love to see the pics and its ratings...

[Duner]

Is there anyway you could mod a 92mm fan in there? Cause the 92mm tornado flows 119 cfm.

[7h3r4py]

I think I read something somewhere this one time (deliberately vague lol) about removing the sticker on the fan to get to its insides and then removing a small plastic clip/disc/thing and this made the fan spin faster, thus moving more air.

Does anyone know what I am talking about or is the 60 hour week I just worked finally affecting me?

[countermods]

i think its the 60 hour week
no what i do is i take a vantec 80mm or 92mm tornado take out the moter pretty much i break it down to just plastic then i take a Super-Speed 9 to 18VDC Hobby Motor there $4.99 @ radio shack with all the guts out of the fan i fill the center with jbweld let it sit for 24 to 48hours make shure it is total dry all the way thru then procede to find the exact center so my fan doesnt woble all over the place drill a whole just a little to small for the tip of the motor to fit thru then coat the tip of the motor in more jbweld and shove it through the hole make shure when u drill the hole u dont go thru the plastic let that sit over night then with more epoxy glue the motor back to the frame of the fan may need to cut the back out and slide it thru then glue around the edge so it doenst move let that sit for a day then all your wiring then hook it up but get a bay bus cause this thing will be loud enough to wake the dead i used one in my old rc car and could still here it @ half power 2 blocks down the street

[countermods]

i am in the process of moding one of these but have to mod my heatsink first wanna use it for my cpu fan the motor is about 2 inches long so need to drill some of my heatsink out

[bulk88]

Originally posted by countermods
if u really want high powered i could mod u an 80 mm fan with a 24,000 rpm motor on it but needs 18 volts to run it will run on 12 but wont be @ 24,000 rpm t will be a good150 cfm fan and loude

The closest you can get in a computer is either 17v (+5v and -12v)or 24v (+12v -12V). No 18v. Also where the heck am I to find a 24,000 RPM fan?

Also I can't fit anything except a 80mm fan becasue the screw cut outs are for 80mm. I think a 92mm would fit I am not taking the chance of it physically not having room in the case (I can drill the holes fine).

[mjmnam]

Originally posted by countermods
i think its the 60 hour week
no what i do is i take a vantec 80mm or 92mm tornado take out the moter pretty much i break it down to just plastic then i take a Super-Speed 9 to 18VDC Hobby Motor there $4.99 @ radio shack with all the guts out of the fan i fill the center with jbweld let it sit for 24 to 48hours make shure it is total dry all the way thru then procede to find the exact center so my fan doesnt woble all over the place drill a whole just a little to small for the tip of the motor to fit thru then coat the tip of the motor in more jbweld and shove it through the hole make shure when u drill the hole u dont go thru the plastic let that sit over night then with more epoxy glue the motor back to the frame of the fan may need to cut the back out and slide it thru then glue around the edge so it doenst move let that sit for a day then all your wiring then hook it up but get a bay bus cause this thing will be loud enough to wake the dead i used one in my old rc car and could still here it @ half power 2 blocks down the street

WHAT?!

[countermods]

it will be the size of an 80mm fan just have a new motor in it it may be a bit longer thoe width wise

[arabarabian]

I would definetely recomend the Tornado for all out performance and noise.

Thank You,
Daniel Patterson

[countermods]

bulk i can make u a 24,000 rpm fan

[L337 M33P]

Two words: Dremel+fan

Seriously though, the SmartFan II is pretty damn loud and pushes a helluva lot of air.

[JKeefe]

Originally posted by countermods
i think its the 60 hour week
no what i do is i take a vantec 80mm or 92mm tornado take out the moter pretty much i break it down to just plastic then i take a Super-Speed 9 to 18VDC Hobby Motor there $4.99 @ radio shack with all the guts out of the fan i fill the center with jbweld let it sit for 24 to 48hours make shure it is total dry all the way thru then procede to find the exact center so my fan doesnt woble all over the place drill a whole just a little to small for the tip of the motor to fit thru then coat the tip of the motor in more jbweld and shove it through the hole make shure when u drill the hole u dont go thru the plastic let that sit over night then with more epoxy glue the motor back to the frame of the fan may need to cut the back out and slide it thru then glue around the edge so it doenst move let that sit for a day then all your wiring then hook it up but get a bay bus cause this thing will be loud enough to wake the dead i used one in my old rc car and could still here it @ half power 2 blocks down the street Another example of good information that is completely destroyed by lack of punctaution. Use some periods and capital letters, countermods. You have good stuff to say, but no one can read it.

[fubulg6000]

Originally posted by countermods
i think its the 60 hour week
no what i do is i take a vantec 80mm or 92mm tornado take out the moter pretty much i break it down to just plastic then i take a Super-Speed 9 to 18VDC Hobby Motor there $4.99 @ radio shack with all the guts out of the fan i fill the center with jbweld let it sit for 24 to 48hours make shure it is total dry all the way thru then procede to find the exact center so my fan doesnt woble all over the place drill a whole just a little to small for the tip of the motor to fit thru then coat the tip of the motor in more jbweld and shove it through the hole make shure when u drill the hole u dont go thru the plastic let that sit over night then with more epoxy glue the motor back to the frame of the fan may need to cut the back out and slide it thru then glue around the edge so it doenst move let that sit for a day then all your wiring then hook it up but get a bay bus cause this thing will be loud enough to wake the dead i used one in my old rc car and could still here it @ half power 2 blocks down the street

Wow, dont mean to bash on you or anything... but, where did you go to school? If your a foreigner then its understandable.

[XJ]

i agree with the last post, reading only the first few lines made me dizzy

[dfarber]

Yo, didn't bother me any....

[orion25]

If you want some serious airflow try to mod one of these (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXEPZ5&P=0) into a fan. 42,000+rpm :D . I too used to play around with RC cars but had to get a cheaper hobby. They will be loud as hell in an enclosed room!

[Deathknight]

Go with the tornado. I think you would be suprised at just how loud they can be. I bet even in a server room you can hear it ;)

[Fast420A]

I'll translate countermods' post.

"What I do is I take a Vantec 80mm or 92mm tornado, take out the motor, pretty much I break it down to just plastic. Then I take a Super-Speed 9 to 18VDC Hobby Motor. They're $4.99 at Radio Shack. With all the guts out of the fan, fill the center with jbweld let it sit for 24 to 48hours make sure it is totally dry all the way thru. Find the exact center so the fan doesnt woble all over the place. Drill a hole just a little too small for the tip of the motor to fit through then coat the tip of the motor in more jbweld and shove it through the hole. Make sure when you drill the hole you dont go thru the plastic. Let that sit over night then with more epoxy glue the motor back to the frame of the fan. You may need to cut the back out and slide it thru then glue around the edge so it doesn't move and then let that sit for a day. Wire it up then get a bay bus cause this thing will be loud enough to wake the dead. I used one in my old rc car and could still here it at half power 2 blocks down the street.

[bulk88]

Originally posted by L337 M33P
Two words: Dremel+fan

Seriously though, the SmartFan II is pretty damn loud and pushes a helluva lot of air.

Have one, not powerful enough.

[nerdlogic]

Originally posted by orion25
If you want some serious airflow try to mod one of these (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXEPZ5&P=0) into a fan. 42,000+rpm :D . I too used to play around with RC cars but had to get a cheaper hobby. They will be loud as hell in an enclosed room!

I don't know about having that thing near a computer (think about the magnets).

[L337 M33P]

The magnets are stationary. The coils move inside it. - I don't think it would cause much interference ;)

[Gautam]

A simple solution is to just take a tornado and volt mod it like this (http://www.afrotechmods.com/fanmod.htm). 24V will probably heavily shorten its life, but I should think that 17V would be fine.

[star882]

"The magnets are stationary. The coils move inside it. - I don't think it would cause much interference"
In all the fans I have seen, the magnets spin while the coils are fixed to the case.

[subconscious]

Why not just take one of these fans (http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/delffb1212eh.html) and use a 120mm to 80mm adapter, or if it can't fit dead center over the 80mm hole, make your own little duct to funnel the air out. 190cfm should be more than enough.

[L337 M33P]

Originally posted by star882
"The magnets are stationary. The coils move inside it. - I don't think it would cause much interference"
In all the fans I have seen, the magnets spin while the coils are fixed to the case.

True that, but for ball bearing PC fans. The RC one that was suggested has the magnets round the outside because it requires less circuitry to route the current properly if the coils are in the middle ;)

[nerdlogic]

Originally posted by subconscious
Why not just take one of these fans (http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/delffb1212eh.html) and use a 120mm to 80mm adapter, or if it can't fit dead center over the 80mm hole, make your own little duct to funnel the air out. 190cfm should be more than enough.

Because of this:

Originally posted by bulk88
Also I can't fit anything except a 80mm fan becasue the screw cut outs are for 80mm. I think a 92mm would fit I am not taking the chance of it physically not having room in the case (I can drill the holes fine).

[Socko4Life]

As far as I know, Tornados are the best performing 80mm stock fans that you can get....so get one of those.

[BaD CrC]

What about the Delta 80mm EHE 'screamer'?:
- Speed - 5700RPM
- Output - 80.1CFM
- Decibels - 52.5dBA
- Dimensions - 80x80x38

[star882]

"True that, but for ball bearing PC fans. The RC one that was suggested has the magnets round the outside because it requires less circuitry to route the current properly if the coils are in the middle"
If you actually take a fan apart, you will find out that the magnets are around the outside, with the coils and electronics in the middle.

[FIZZ3]

Yeah just get that Tornado 80mm or the Delta... both powerful fans.
Let's not forget the fan's purpose- it's not a noise-making contest, nor is a ridiculous amount of CFM needed. It's just to cool a server rack sufficiently. I would say that rules out funky drill bits mounted to a 80mm frame, if only for reliability concerns.
In the unlikely event that these fans cannot provide sufficient cooling, I'd suggest turning up the airco in that server room a bit, before going all wild-eyed on the fan. ;)

[SlyJavi]

Your best bet would be to mod the 92MM Toronado to fit. They are not much bigger. The mod would be easy. 119CFM should make a noticeable difference.

I don't think the increase of 9 CFM (80MM Smart Fan II 75CFM vs. 80MM Toronado 84CFM) is going to be enough for your application.

[bulk88]

Originally posted by SlyJavi
Your best bet would be to mod the 92MM Toronado to fit. They are not much bigger. The mod would be easy. 119CFM should make a noticeable difference.

I don't think the increase of 9 CFM (80MM Smart Fan II 75CFM vs. 80MM Toronado 84CFM) is going to be enough for your application.

I just got my 80mm Tornado. It is MUCH more powerful than my TT SCF2. I can't even keep control of it in my hand. Though it still isn't what I need. I need to exhaust 3 TT SCF2s (2 to force air down to the cpus (with Volcano 11s at the cpu runing full speed)), 1 forcing air to the HD mounting area) from my system. All of the TT SCF2s are running at full speed (75 CFM each). This is a ducting mod I am doing to my cpus (this is a SMP system). And I need something to remove all that hot air (the cpus are 2 barton 2500s (hand picked stepings) oclk'ed to 2,128 right now at 1.7v and runnning at 54C), plus 2 200gb hard drives (not yet in but they are 7200RPM models).

[fafnir]

ever think of going watercooling?


http://www.bit-tech.net/images/review/228/m4b1.jpg

http://www.employees.org/~slf/ss/ss-base1.jpg


maybe buy a corsair hydrocool and two koolance 200g blocks,... outta cool better than what you've got and all... should also fit in a 1U case... serious...

[fafnir]

http://www3.sympatico.ca/scanido/images/top.jpg

[emericanchaos]

good idea on mounting the rad. how's your flow pumping up hill into the rad and all?

if you just want an 80 get the tornado. that's the only answer for you if you can only use an 80mm fan. if you're open to suggestion check out 92mm tornadoes or look into a dual pump single rad water cooling setup. the water setup would deal with the heat from that box very well.

[madsam]

Originally posted by orion25
If you want some serious airflow try to mod one of these (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXEPZ5&P=0) into a fan. 42,000+rpm :D . I too used to play around with RC cars but had to get a cheaper hobby. They will be loud as hell in an enclosed room!

hmmm, i have about a dozen of those...various ratings and so on, but..hmmmmm.. i wonder if the fan blades would fly off and destroy half the pc components....lol...would be cool to try though....:D

[bulk88]

Originally posted by fafnir



ever think of going watercooling?





maybe buy a corsair hydrocool and two koolance 200g blocks,... outta cool better than what you've got and all... should also fit in a 1U case... serious...



My parents won't allow it saying it will leak and flood the system and their money on the SMP rig went down the drain, litterally.

[Cjwinnit]

"need most powerful 80 mm in the world"

I think I've seen a scaled-down Pratt&Whitney Turbojet that miight be about that size, should easily be the most powerful by a long way.

[climbski]

Somehow I don't think that would be good for the CPU temp.

[countermods]

y do u need such a power full fan how hot are your temps y dont u switch it case into a tower case they have better airflow and more fans can be added

[orion25]

Have you considered modding the sides or top of the case to accept fans. If you could fit in the Tornado and a couple of High flow 60mm or even more tornados you could increase your airflow with ease. If space in the case is really tight you could put the fan outside the case instead of inside it.

[Cypress]

didn't he say it was surrounded by computer on all sides or something to that extent? That's why he couldn't get fans on the side or something...Anyway, if you can get a 80mm adapter for a 120mm it could be a good idea to get that 190CFM fan. You know...some people don't even have the collective power of that fan. With all their fans they don't even hit 150CFMs. Then you get a 190CFM fan, and i believe it's more silent than the 80mm tornado(not sure about the 92mm)

[bulk88]

Well the front of this case is butcherd and has fans blowing air down ducts to the cpus. I can't put anything on the sides or top becasue this tower case stands next to other computers that will block it. I guess I will by a 92mm fan and see how it goes.

[Tc3 Toad]

The problem with that rc motor is because it is so powerful it will need the brushes replaced and comm cut about every 4 hours because that motor pulls so much power. It will also destroy the fan blades because it has so much torque. Rc motors are built for speed and performance not for long life.

p.s. You whould have a hard time truing to mount one of those and not have it come loose and completely destroy your computer.

[bulk88]

Originally posted by Tc3 Toad
The problem with that rc motor is because it is so powerful it will need the brushes replaced and comm cut about every 4 hours because that motor pulls so much power. It will also destroy the fan blades because it has so much torque. Rc motors are built for speed and performance not for long life.

p.s. You whould have a hard time truing to mount one of those and not have it come loose and completely destroy your computer.

Dremal (make opening bigger)+ a drill press machine

[orion25]

Originally posted by Tc3 Toad
The problem with that rc motor is because it is so powerful it will need the brushes replaced and comm cut about every 4 hours because that motor pulls so much power. It will also destroy the fan blades because it has so much torque. Rc motors are built for speed and performance not for long life.

p.s. You whould have a hard time truing to mount one of those and not have it come loose and completely destroy your computer.

I believe they do make Brushless motors now. It has been so long that I was in the RC hobby that I do not know what their advantages are though. My last car (which I still have) was a Losi XX4.

[Tc3 Toad]

brushless would work but the motor costs like $120 and you need a speed controller which is around $120 plus you would need radio gear. So it would be too expencive to go the RC motor route. I would just cut a hole in the case and put on a 92mm Tornado.

i have a stampede, tc3 and a micro rs4

[NO LIFE]

http://www.frozencpu.com/cgi-bin/frozencpu/duc-07.html
That^

http://www.frozencpu.com/cgi-bin/frozencpu/fan-22.html
With this^

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