What's this AXIA code I have to get?

[Gutspiller]

How do I find out if a processor I am purchasing has this code, so that it overclocks good? I really wanted to buy one cheap and overclock it myself, instead of paying some company to overclock it for me. Please help. If I wont be able to specify a CPU that has this code, what online overclocking stores do you guys recommend I purchase my CPU from? Please help an overclocker in need. Thanks

[Daniel ~]

Moved post to "AMD CPU's"

AXIA is a new stepping, all of theses chips O/C well. All chips above 1.2GIG are AXIA chips.

[Tachyon]

Gutspiller (Apr 05, 2001 04:31 p.m.):
How do I find out if a processor I am purchasing has this code, so that it overclocks good? I really wanted to buy one cheap and overclock it myself, instead of paying some company to overclock it for me. Please help. If I wont be able to specify a CPU that has this code, what online overclocking stores do you guys recommend I purchase my CPU from? Please help an overclocker in need. Thanks

We check codes for Overclockers readers. We currently have 1.33/266 AXIA0109 CPU's.

Terry

[Nagorak]

I kind of have a feeling that Overclockers would be more appreciative of AXIA 1 GHz chips. Are there even anything besides AXIA 1.33 and 1.3s?!! Good to know, anyway.

[viking84]

being fairly new at this, i recently purchased parts from an online vendor to build a new computer. after much reading here at the forum, i decided to go with the 1g/266 tbird and an iwill mobo. LUCKY ME!! to have gotten an AXIA. i know there's some others that will oc well also, but with all the AXIA talk right now, to have shelled out for a 1g processor but not the RIGHT 1g processor would be a little disheartening. This afternoon i worked up the nerve to do "the pencil trick" (learned here), while in there also removed the nasty little plastic pad on my hsf(also learned here how to remove properly). Went into the BIOS and reset my multiplier to, from looking through the databases, what appeared to be a conservative overclock. Rebooted and launched right up at 10x 133 and 1.7 volts....been purring right along all evening, having run 3dmark 2001 and others to test for temps and stability...the max temp ive seen so far was 43C

I know this has gotten a little long but just really wanted to say thanks, both for this forum and the folks on it....never would have even thought to attempt any of this without the resources and knowledge available here

(hope i dont sound like i think that i wont have any problems come up, because SOMETHING always comes up....its just that seeing1.3g is like ;D compared to my old k6-2 300@350!!

;) yowza!

[AZZKICKER]

try 10 x 140 and see if it goes

then go from there and become FASTER !

[Tachyon]

Nagorak (Apr 05, 2001 10:56 p.m.):
I kind of have a feeling that Overclockers would be more appreciative of AXIA 1 GHz chips. Are there even anything besides AXIA 1.33 and 1.3s?!! Good to know, anyway.

I may be wrong, but it does appear that there's more to the code than just whether or not a chip is an AXIA. Does week of manufacture make a difference? I'm reading posts that someone is claiming that there's some kind of problem with week 10 AXIA's I also read that what is in the first position of the 3rd line makes a difference.

This may or may not be true but it would take an extensive database like Ed was talking about to know for sure.

Terry

[viking84]

AZZKICKER (Apr 06, 2001 12:40 a.m.):
try 10 x 140 and see if it goes

then go from there and become FASTER !

I plan on going higher, waiting for a fop-38 i ordered last week...should be here any time now :)
ran prime 95 all morning at 48-49C...so want to wait for the extra cooling first before i go for 1.4 or higher (hopefully!)

[Tachyon]

Tachyon (Apr 06, 2001 07:14 a.m.):
Nagorak (Apr 05, 2001 10:56 p.m.):
I kind of have a feeling that Overclockers would be more appreciative of AXIA 1 GHz chips. Are there even anything besides AXIA 1.33 and 1.3s?!! Good to know, anyway.

I may be wrong, but it does appear that there's more to the code than just whether or not a chip is an AXIA. Does week of manufacture make a difference? I'm reading posts that someone is claiming that there's some kind of problem with week 10 AXIA's I also read that what is in the first position of the 3rd line makes a difference.

This may or may not be true but it would take an extensive database like Ed was talking about to know for sure.

Terry

With everyone wound around the axle about AXIA I'm interested to know if people are paying attention to the rest of the code on the chip.

Terry

[Nagorak]

Tachyon (Apr 06, 2001 07:14 a.m.):

I may be wrong, but it does appear that there's more to the code than just whether or not a chip is an AXIA. Does week of manufacture make a difference? I'm reading posts that someone is claiming that there's some kind of problem with week 10 AXIA's I also read that what is in the first position of the 3rd line makes a difference.

This may or may not be true but it would take an extensive database like Ed was talking about to know for sure.

Terry

Yes, I've heard this too. Only thing is, most of the people in the database only record the first four letters of the code. I admit, I am guilty of doing that same thing. So, without any real info to go on, I just chose to ignore the other code numbers (since fretting about it's not going to help much). Also, all chips have some good and bad batches, right? So I don't think the week 10 problem (if true) is something to get all that concerned about.

Basically what I'm saying is, if more information on these other "variables" was available then the more power to us. But we have to go on what we have, and that's the AXIA code... Even so, you're still probably better off with an AXIA than just about any other chip.

[trimai]

I have the 1Ghz (200FSB) "AXIA0110BPAW" which is currently running 10*140 = 1400 Mhz completely stable using default voltage (27C idle/43C full load). I am aware about the article discuss about code on the third line. It says that if the third line starts with a letter then it is going to overclock better. My CPU has the third line starts with a number and I don't think there is any other type of 1Ghz Tbird which can overclock better than my CPU. I do not want to push any further because 1.4 Ghz is already fast enough for me. I am sure I can get more out of this CPU if I try. But why pushing your good CPU to the edge when the current speed already outperform more than 90% of Tbird users everywhere?

[Tachyon]

Nagorak (Apr 06, 2001 08:22 p.m.):
Tachyon (Apr 06, 2001 07:14 a.m.):

I may be wrong, but it does appear that there's more to the code than just whether or not a chip is an AXIA. Does week of manufacture make a difference? I'm reading posts that someone is claiming that there's some kind of problem with week 10 AXIA's I also read that what is in the first position of the 3rd line makes a difference.

This may or may not be true but it would take an extensive database like Ed was talking about to know for sure.

Terry

Yes, I've heard this too. Only thing is, most of the people in the database only record the first four letters of the code. I admit, I am guilty of doing that same thing. So, without any real info to go on, I just chose to ignore the other code numbers (since fretting about it's not going to help much). Also, all chips have some good and bad batches, right? So I don't think the week 10 problem (if true) is something to get all that concerned about.

Basically what I'm saying is, if more information on these other "variables" was available then the more power to us. But we have to go on what we have, and that's the AXIA code... Even so, you're still probably better off with an AXIA than just about any other chip.

I try to collect and provide hard data to help people make informed decisions. There's enough misinformation and people jumping on the "new greatest thing just because someone said so". Apparently I'm on the wrong track.

[Tachyon]

To add to the above post, I had a 1.33/266 that was (in previous T-Birds anyway) the "dreaded" green core. I posted here asking if anyone had seen one (I hadn't). After days of deliberation and no response, I tested it. With an ambient temp of 70F, it ran stable at 1533 (11.5x133) with default core voltage except for Prime 95. It took a core voltage of 1.80v to prevent the rounding error. All of the code was basically the same as the rest of the batch AXIA0109xxxx, Kxxxxxxxxx. Is it different? Beats me. Is it something to look for? I have no clue. Is it worth mentioning? I'm beginning to doubt it.

[Nagorak]

I'm not sure I understand exactly what you are saying. It would be great if more data were available on the whole codes, IF it actually makes a difference. But generally there is nothing out there except for the vauge "third line is better if a letter and not a number" idea. What I'm saying is if all you have to choose between is an "AVIA" chip and one that is an "AXIA" then you should definitely go with the AXIA. If you have a bunch of AXIA's to choose from, then by all means, go with one later than week 10 that has a letter on the third line.

But there's just not enough hard evidence on any of these other factors available to make more than hunches. Maybe week 10s are bad, maybe someone just got a bad chip and started the rumor? There's no real way to tell.