Im new to overclocking and would like your answers to a few questions

[AcidBath]

I have a tbird-1.2ghz running idel at 110* farenheit. I bought the *cough* amd certicifed fan(cooler master). i was constantly monitering it then i started falling behind in watching the temp(mother board moniter5).So today i notice a unusaul increasein errors last few days i run mbm5 and it pops up with an alarm so i freak out and put a regular house fan on the side of my case(full tower). I always noticed these increase in heating and etc... If i put a fan on the front it has the little holes so it doesn't get any current through that and i have a voodoo 5 which pretty much blocks all air intake going up altogether. With a fan blowing on it i reduced the temp from 138* F to 110*F right now w/ the fan on it my cpu is 113*F
Board sensor 1 is 96*F and Board sensor 2 is 86*F i have a MSI KT7PRO2-A. I was wondering what case would be good for it and for a heat sink i was wondering about the difference between a Pelite Water Cooled one or a complete type deal w/ a 2gallon steel bucket and a water pump [img="http://www.toptechusa.com/images/Mvc-003f.JPG"]. Please any help is needed for cooling ideas

[Fiz]

Full tower cases are great for cooling. I'm guessing that the case temp was 86'F and the chipset was 96'F. First, are you using thermal paste or did you leave on the thermal pad? If you are using the thermal pad, get it off and offer it to theOCing gods as a sacrifice, they are horrible at conducting heat. I would recommend using Arctic silver 2, it's one of the best thermal pastes out there. Also check to make sure that the hsf is seated correctly on the proc, even if they are a little bit crooked, it can add 5-10'C to your temp. The other thing to do is add more fans to your case, I cut a hole into the side of mine and have it aimed at the proc and northbridge, dropped quite a bit. I also cut a hole in the top to suck out any warm air that got stuck in there. And now for the stinky part, the coolermaster really isn't a good OCing heatsink, it does ok for regular users, that's why AMD recommends it. When it comes to OCing you want to get a Globalwin FOP 38, or the WBK. They work really well. Another one to consider is the Thermaltake, I have read some good things about it also. The temps you are looking for under load should be around the mid 40's(degrees celcius) If you find yourself getting into the mid 50's, you need better cooling. I think if you do those couple of things you should see a big drop in temps and good stability when you OC. Good Luck

Fiz

[AcidBath]

Heres a pic of my sys. I have the two fans at the top which draw out little to no hot air i don't have a fan in the front anymore cause its worthless it has no air moving through it and the holes in the back in near the heat sink(which i removed)can't put a fan there

[AcidBath]

see how the voodoo 5 and all those cables block off air flow any suggestsions on that

[Carmine_Paterno]

I don't know how much it will help, but you can do what i did. Pick up the best quality 80mm fan you can find. Then get a Power supply, with voltage controls. Get a 60mm High CFM fan and let is blow away the air blowing into the heatsink from the 80mm fan. It works real good with my Celeron Setup. Can't wait to see it in action with my 1.33ghz @ 1.5+! Also leave your case open. Alow more air flow below near the cable by making them rounded. That way more air goes into the 80mm and out the 60. Works real nice, Also, when you have money, get a Hog if you plan on doing some heavy o/cing, it will do very nicely. If not overclocking pick up a Alpha, or maybe even a Taisol.

[wild_andy_c]

Think about airflow. What you need to create is an exhaust system.

Get a good powerful fan for the cpu - a FOP 38 for instance, very reasonably priced, however very powerful.

Then buy a 80mm case fan, mount this (with crazy glue or epoxy onto the case side where you have ventilation holes just above the cpu area as the case is in a horizontal orientation. This removes any hot air that is lingering around the CPU area and results in improved cooling.

DO NOT LEAVE YOUR CASE OPEN - this detracts from the idea of positive exhaust