for a newbie, how hard is it to install the AMD CPU Vs. the Intel?

[MacUserMDM]

I heard the the Intel CPU is pretty easy to install for the first timer and the AMD can be a bit tough. Is that true?

[kellyokeefe825]

ummmm ......not really the heat sink is different but processor should be pretty much the same.....its not ahrd though just make sure you put the heat sink on properly

[L337 M33P]

AMD CPUs lack the heatspreader of Intel CPUs. This is basically a metal plate squished on top of the silicon die of the CPU and attached to the board around it. AMD XP chips do not have this so the silicon is laid bare for all to see. This makes it much easier to crush the core of an XP than a P4 - but if you install the heatsink (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_4348%5e6678,00.html) properly it shouldn't be a problem

[climbski]

Neither is more difficult.

[L337 M33P]

Originally posted by climbski
Neither is more difficult.

Why?

[Lt. Max]

id have to say intel is extremely easy to install.. you just take the retail sink and push it into the bracket and turn those arms to tighten it and ur set.. and no core crushing fear.. amd i would have to say is a lot more sweaty cause u have a slippery screwdriver and the core that could crush, but if you know what you're doing it shouldnt be a problem. i have done plenty installs on both cpu types.

max

[c627627]

Thanks to L337 M33P for a really useful link.

[L337 M33P]

Originally posted by c627627
Thanks to L337 M33P for a really useful link.

*Bows*

Thank you... Already downloaded on my PC :D

[texp4]

I would say Intel is easier. I install both. Especially it is extremely easy to install a P4 with a screw in mobo HSF.

For AMD, the core is higher ( not flat like P4) so you might break it if not handle carefully

[dippy_skoodlez]

I just started building me my own comps, and since then, I have taken the heatsink off of a few celerons, and a few athlons.. the athlons are ofcourse a tiny bit harder, but nothing to be worried about.. My first time I took a heatsink off was a P100, but I cant break those trying, unless I have a hammer ;) Other than that, my 2nd was my athlon 1700+ which is running fine at 1600Mhz :D

[AS3]

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I heard the the Intel CPU is pretty easy to install for the first timer and the AMD can be a bit tough. Is that true?
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are you mentally challenged my friend? no? GREAT
DONT WORRY ABOUT IT, installing a hs is something that a human with the mental capacity of an 8 year old can do....

BTW< if you are 8 years old then....sorry?

[Socko4Life]

The AMD is really all that much harder to install. Its just the last part of installing it that you really need to be careful. The haetsink must be aligned properly or the core could get crushed, plus you need to be careful of attaching the heatsink to the ZIF socket. Use too much force, and the core could get crushed and your hand could slip and damage the mobo. But still, it's not nearly as serious as it sounds. I haven't crushed any of my 5 cores yet.

[Amorphus]

risk of cracking a core is negligible. it doesn't happen much these days at all.

also, intel HSFs that don't use the lugs are easier too install. once you get to heatsinks that use the lugs, then it gets harder on both sides. np either way, your decision shouldn't be made upon heatsink application difficulty.

as for the installation of the processor itself (just in case...) - AMD and Intel proc installations are 99% identical. the extra 1% coming from the fact that, if you choose AMD, then you get that extra fuzzy feeling inside from knowing you're installing a superior product.

:D

(sorry, had to stick an Intel jab in there...)

[zabomb4163]

Originally posted by Amorphus
if you choose AMD, then you get that extra fuzzy feeling inside from knowing you're installing a superior product.

:D



fanboyism at its worst. just ignore him though. if he wanted to debate about which was a better product he'd have real information instead of crap.

back on topic. installing a hs is trivial on both platforms. I not quite sure why your so worried about it.

[MacUserMDM]

Well, I have never done it before, so I don't want to f it up.

[Chowdy]

If you're the slightest bit competent and know your own strength, then installing an AMD heatsink shouldn't be hard. Coolermaster makes some nice heatsinks that use these cool little tab things. :p

[Hawker-rider]

the key to installing the heatsink on an AMd processor is to keep the heatsink level, and not sideways. If you do it sideways all the pressure from tighening the clips will force in a PART of the die. obviously all that pressure on such a small area will cause something to break.

Just use a good fitting screwdriver and your other hand to keep the heatsink straight and level and you should be OK, it's really no big deal at all!

M

[Amorphus]

Originally posted by zabomb4163


fanboyism at its worst. just ignore him though. if he wanted to debate about which was a better product he'd have real information instead of crap.

back on topic. installing a hs is trivial on both platforms. I not quite sure why your so worried about it.


oh come on, I was kidding. people like you tend to have heart attacks by the time they're 30. :p

besides, I've long given up the argument. I just prefer AMD because they keep Intel accountable and affordable. :)

[matrixzen]

Last time I checked the P/// didn't have a heat spreader. Most socket A and socket 370 heatsink/fans are similar and ussualy can be installed on either. They both have the exposed die. I'm not going to take any sides and say which company is better because they are both great chip makers. Although intel is a little pricey. AMD is well needed competition for the CPU market. AMD is a cheaper alternative to intel CPUs. With an intel you may get the heat spreader and the heat fail safe mechanism built into the chip but look how much you pay for the chip. I have an AMD ATHLON XP and I it was a piece of cake clipping on the heatsink fan. It's pretty much the same as the P///s. Just take your time and be carefull when installing the Heatsink/Fan and you should be alright.


Originally posted by L337 M33P
AMD CPUs lack the heatspreader of Intel CPUs. This is basically a metal plate squished on top of the silicon die of the CPU and attached to the board around it. AMD XP chips do not have this so the silicon is laid bare for all to see. This makes it much easier to crush the core of an XP than a P4 - but if you install the heatsink (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_4348%5e6678,00.html) properly it shouldn't be a problem

[funnyperson1]

Don't sweat the heatsink install. Just don't forget the thermal paste :).

As for cracking the amds i havent heard of it happening much since they moved to the organic substrates.

[climbski]

Bothe are quite easy to install... Right now the 2.4C Intell is the best performing OC setup. Amd Is less expensive.. Both are about the same difficulty to OC ... One uses multi's Intell requires knowlege of diveiders. So the only real criteria for purchase in my mind is Cost between the Intel and AMD. Buyers choice.:)

[zabomb4163]

off topic......nice system climbski. how are you cooling that beast?

[IXPHANT0MXI]

JUST TAKE YOUR TIME WITH A AMD FIRST CLIP THE ONE LUG TO THE FAR SIDE THE < SIDE WITH OUT THE SLOT MAKING SURE THE H.S IS LEVEL AND STRIGHT > CAN BE A BIT TRICKY AND USING A GOOD STRAIGHT BLADED SMALL SCREW DRIVER, CLIP THE OTHER SIDE. MAKE SURE YOU USE PASTE AND MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE SLOTTED SIDE OF THE HEATSINK ORIENTED CORRECTLY DONT WANNA PUT IT ON BACK WARDS LIKE MY MORONIC FRIEND DID AND FRIED HIS DURON HOW IN THE HELL HE DID THAT ILL NEVER KNOW !!

[Helgaiden]

hey, that last video on the AMD website says that thermal grease dispersas over time and should only be used when the HSF is taken on and off alot. Is that true for thermal paste (artic silver, ceramique, etc)?

[ryuen]

u drop the cpu on the holes. and u close the lever. not hard at all. for either :D

[Ugmore Baggage]

The dumbest thing I ever saw anybody do was install an AMD heatsink backwards. There's often a cutout on one side which is supposed to go over the locking arm hinge which is higher than the top of the CPU. If you put it on the other way the base won't be able to lay flat on the CPU.

Needless to say my diagnosis was complete, I wanted no more to do with it.

[MooMasster716]

I Just built my first system which was AMD and the hardest part was instaling the heatsink because i wasnt sure if i should be appling the pressure that i was appling. It booted and a tear of joy came out of my eye.

[el]

intel is actually harder to take off but easier to put on if you use the stock hsf.

[dippy_skoodlez]

Originally posted by IXPHANT0MXI
JUST TAKE YOUR TIME WITH A AMD FIRST CLIP THE ONE LUG TO THE FAR SIDE THE < SIDE WITH OUT THE SLOT MAKING SURE THE H.S IS LEVEL AND STRIGHT > CAN BE A BIT TRICKY AND USING A GOOD STRAIGHT BLADED SMALL SCREW DRIVER, CLIP THE OTHER SIDE. MAKE SURE YOU USE PASTE AND MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE SLOTTED SIDE OF THE HEATSINK ORIENTED CORRECTLY DONT WANNA PUT IT ON BACK WARDS LIKE MY MORONIC FRIEND DID AND FRIED HIS DURON HOW IN THE HELL HE DID THAT ILL NEVER KNOW !!

IXPHANTOMXI I'm not even going yto bother reading that &$*$.

[Tim-E T]

Yeah i actually skipped using the stock AMD heatsink and jumped straight to a SLK-800(u). I was really nervous about the stock heatsink so i figured i might just go with the mounting holes. When i was installing it i got pretty sweaty hands but now that i look back it wasnt that hard at all. And plus i have the added peice of mind that the heatsink isnt gonna fall, no way no how :)

[Aeon Flux]

There both just as easy man. The key to installing anything that puts any pressure on any computer component is just patience. Any descent heatsink fan and cpu requires pressure on the cpu to sink the heat well. So just take your time and dont get over excited about your new toy and youll do great.

[Yodums]

I think Intel is easier since all you do is seat it and turn the handle. As for AMD you have to either use the holes which if you secure the bolt too hard, it may cut through the traces and it will be a pain taking the motherboard out everytime, same may apply for Intel if say you used the SLK-900.

If you use socket lugs for AMD, you have to use a screwdriver which may sometimes slip and perhaps jab into the motherboard - bad news.

AMD is pretty easy after you done it a lot of times. It is pretty nerve racking when you got a piece of metal which weights 1 pound on top of a 100 dollar chip and you're trying to hold it in mid air while aligning the clips together.

The main thing to remember is to TAKE YOUR TIME.

Yodums