Geil PC4000 BENCHES ARE HERE!

[FattyMcNastyXK]

Ok, I just got my Geil Ultra Platinum PC4000 ram in today and I stuck it in, set my divider to 1:1 and put my fsb to 250. I havn't done any sort of tweeking except i raised my ram voltage. This is a bandwidth bench from Sisoftware Sandra.

http://www.phoenixpass.com/cazro/membench2.gif

[FattyMcNastyXK]

oh and btw, this bench was on an Abit IC7 board with a Intel P4 2.6C. don't know if it matters but video card was a Radeon 9000 pro. and btw, my mouse is black ;)

[NiTrO bOiE]

Nice score, what are your timings at?

[FattyMcNastyXK]

2.5-4-4-7

[mrspec3]

What voltage?

When posting screen shots its nice to scroll down to the FSB and mem timings...so people can see

[nikhsub1]

Originally posted by FattyMcNastyXK
2.5-4-4-7
Hmm, what bios are you using? At 250 1:1 with the same CPU and mobo as you I get over 6K. Using OCZ Gold. I am using the same timings too. I have all PAT options disabled in bios and run after a restart.

http://www.netbetty.com/H20/ddr250.gif

[FattyMcNastyXK]

I have the latest, the one that came out july 30th. I'll check out those PAT options after I get some food.

[amdmadman]

What are your unbuffered Bench's.

[cypher_138]

Thanks for the benchys Fatty.:D It seems pretty good to me. Have you run any games with this yet? If so did you see somw improvements in them?
@ Nik
Is that OCZG4K?

[nikhsub1]

Originally posted by cypher_138
@ Nik
Is that OCZG4K?
No. Gold 3700.

[Ununquadium114]

yeah fatty those are a bit low IMO

[cypher_138]

I've been looking at a gig of the Gold 4000, but at $480 I can't make a move. I'm gonna wait a week or so to see exactly whats out there.
-Fold on

[FattyMcNastyXK]

- Couldn't find the PAT options. Under which menu of the bios are they in and what does PAT mean?

-unbuffered bench? how do I make it unbuffered

[mattspalace]

Mine should be here tomorrow. I'll post what it does also, but I'll need someone to post screenies for me.. :rolleyes:

[cypher_138]

I'll host them if you want.

[seer33]

Where can u get the gold 3700? if its a semi-decent price its either gonna be that stuff or pc3200 cheapo twinmos that i go with (i love the looks of the gold stuff soo much tho!)

[FattyMcNastyXK]

when I tried to play bf1942, it would freez up and restart the computer. This is at 250fsb with 1:1 I didn't get any errors with memtest86. I think its my motherboard. but I don't know whats wrong

[GreenWolf]

Threads on other forums point to chipset overheating on P4P800 MB as major culprit causing problems with OC.

BTW, since you have the Geil PC4000 RAM (2 X 512), is it single sided or double sided? Trying to get info out of these Makers is like pulling teeth.

[FattyMcNastyXK]

who said I have 2x512, I have 2x256 and I'll look into getting me one of those zalman nb heatsinks

[seer33]

Where can u get the ocz gold 3700?!!

[FattyMcNastyXK]

look for it :rolleyes:

anyways, do you think a zalman northbridge heatsink and some arctic alumina thermal adhesive would do the trick. I had to lower the fsb to 240 so I could play BF1942

[nimrod0031]

you can get the OCZ at newegg for 230$

I too just got some of that Geil and it wont even do over 300fsb!!!
IMO it sucks ass. Maybe mine needs to be burned in but I will be RMA'ing it for some **** that will crank out the fsb. 290fsb isnt even stable in dual channel at 5:4 3,7,4,4

here is a benchie at 297fsb 5:4
http://nimrod0031.20megsfree.com/images/297_fsb.jpg

[FattyMcNastyXK]

do you use memtest86 and if you do do you get many many errors when you oc high? I got mine at 250 with the right settings with no errors. But if I go higher, I'll get errors

[flapperhead]

everyones telling me around 250 fsb @1-1 ratio the ic7 is crappin out, so it could be your mb. id love to know how high that memory will go....

[Renigade]

Get the Thermaltake Tiger1 chipset cooler, Ive heard its better than the Zalman, and it costs $5 (plus $5 shipping, grrr) at Newegg. I am gonna get one soon. Getting another 5-10+ fsb is worth it for $10 =D.

[seer33]

wow. $230, scratch that ****nit.

[mattspalace]

Mine came today, and after about an hour and a half of tweaking, I just can't get this memory to perform as well as DDR500 should.

I set 250fsb with a 1:1 ratio, default voltage to the CPU, 2.8v to the memory, left the memory set to 'SPD', and left the GAT(PAT) left on auto, which probably is disabled.
Ran Sandra, and got an aweful 5565MB/s memory benchmark.
Tried using a GAT mode of Turbo, and had to reset my CMOS, as it alarmed on me.
-So I got back up and running where it was last stable, and tried Turbo again, but turned off CPC and all the usual tricks.. -Had to reset the CMOS again!! BAHHHH!!

Okay..hmm.. maybe I'll try for more MHz out of the memory.. So I get back into the Bios, and try 255fsb with 1:1 ratio..no alarm! So I'm pretty stoked now, as 5MHz more with a 1:1 is actually a pretty nice improvement in performance - well at least for benchmarks. Run through Sandra again, 5650MB/s. Better, but still doesn't touch my Corsair, which does over 5700MB/s, with Street Racer GAT settings..

In a nutshell, this memory doesn't perform as well as what I've got now, so it's going back.. If I could run GAT, my performance would probably be better, but I tried all the tweaks and tricks I could think of.... and I'm pretty sick of resetting my CMOS everytime my memory craps out.

Thumbs down from me, which is too bad..

[TheGr8s1]

My OCZ PC3700 Gold pulls is running 250 1:1 with 2.4-3-3-7 timings using 2.85v. The guys at OCZ tested the memory on the same mobo I use for me before I got it. They claim to have reached DDR510 with the same timings before shipment but I can't get it 100% stable at that speed. Maybe a volt mod is needed for me.

[althes]

Geil is looking good.

[FattyMcNastyXK]

but for the price, I'd say its a good deal. and I don't exactly have the money to send it back and pay for more expensive memory

[nimrod0031]

well if you RMA it you can get your money back. Thats what I did. This crap wont even do 300fsb in single channel with dog crap timings in a 3:2 divider.

[Suma]

Originally posted by nimrod0031
well if you RMA it you can get your money back. Thats what I did. This crap wont even do 300fsb in single channel with dog crap timings in a 3:2 divider.

Why are you so sure that your nb can hold up 300 fsb?

[OperativeSix]

Originally posted by Suma


Why are you so sure that your nb can hold up 300 fsb?

I'd RMA it just because it REFUSES to do a 5:4 divider. I've got no problem running it at PC3700 speeds with great timings, but PC3000 speeds? No way.

The only problem with RMA'ing it now is that I'd have to bite the bullet on the restock fee, etc. Perhaps GeIL is aware of this...I'm going to try contacting their tech support over it.

[FattyMcNastyXK]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I can't get my system stable on 250fsb with the divider at 1:1 , my ram voltage is 2.8, my cpu voltage is 1.7 What do you guys think is wrong? should I rma my ram? my motherboard my cpu? This is ****ing me off

[FattyMcNastyXK]

bump, help!

[Xymurgy]

Sounds like the CPU. maxxschwag just posted a thread about a 2.8 doing 250 1:1 using the Geil 4200. He said that 250 is his CPU's max.

I don't know how to get around the CPU ceiling other than more voltage/less heat. If you find out, let me know!

[FattyMcNastyXK]

I'm thinking about sending back my board, cpu and ram, and getting new ones from the manufacturer, but first, I'll change the ram, and if its still doing this, then I'll send back the board, if its still doing that, then I'll send back the cpu, if its still doing that, then F*** it.

[OperativeSix]

Originally posted by OperativeSix
[B]

I'd RMA it just because it REFUSES to do a 5:4 divider



Turns out I was wrong about the 5:4 divider. It looks to be a problem common (d'oh!) to P4P800-deluxe motherboards. I don't have any other boards besides P4P800's to test on right now, so actually, this stuff is looking pretty juicy if it DOES work at 5:4.

IC7-G Max3 with 3v+ on the vdimm should be VERY nice with this memory.

[cypher_138]

I think 240/50 is the max for most 2.8Cs.

[FattyMcNastyXK]

if I had a 2.8 240 would be cool but I have a 2.6

[nimrod0031]

Hey suma this is how I know my NB can handle 300fsb
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6837732

I put this mem in my p4c800 and was able to pull 280fsb in 1:1
sandra bench gave me 6500 mb/s:)

[Lonely Raven]

Holy Shnikies!! Nice OC bother!!

I'm shopping around for good memory now, but so far I can't
get my board stable past 266FSB. I've had it up to 280FSB, but
every BIOS update seems to change what I'm capable of, and
how stable it is (Sigh).

[nimrod0031]

what board have you got?

[FattyMcNastyXK]

Ic7