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I have:
Asus A7V133
Athlon 900
256 PC133 Ram,
1. Tried overclocking through bios, but was not really sure what i was doing, got 1125 but ended up locking myself out and had to take the battery out and leave overnight.
2. Also i am using the thermal tape that came with the cooler and my temps seem a bit high, that is mid 50s, how do i go about putting the thermal grease people talk about?
Any people running similiar system i would like to know if you use the bios options or the m/b dip switches
Any and all advice welcome
Thanks
Bartman
04-09-01, 09:21 PM
I have a TB900 and a Fop32-1 on a KT7A-Raid board...
I just excitedly scraped the thermal stuff off with a knife when i got it (made some scratches on the bottom of the HS) and threw some Arctic Thermal II @ it... Thats ok because I planned on having is lapped by now (sand the bottom of the HS smooth), but it will be done by the end of this week.
I suggest lapping the FOP heatsinks.. mine was pretty bad from the factory, I know I will get an extra 2-3^ cooling just from lapping.
Even with a really bad job of taking off the standard thermal pad, my temps never go above 43^C. Thats with the case on, and only 1 80mm intake right now. Your 50+ sounds way to high to me.
I have (3) 51cfm 92mm fans on order, as well as the 80mm for teh fop32. I will be lapping, cutting a blowhole on top of the case, and drilling holes in the front so that the existing intake can actually breath. Add to this my Enermax 351 PS is in the mail as well.. and that has an extra 92mm exhaust fan. I am looking to get Max load temps under 40^C if at all possible with air cooling (with my setup). All that means is I feel that 45^ is way too high, so I would really freak @ 50^C :-)
I am getting a 80mm HO Panaflo fan, which is 35db, but 39cfm, so I should get FOP38 cooling without the noise. [An option if you dont like the noise]
Anyways, you shouldnt be that hot... but I can see it with no thermal compund in a case with no air flow.
Applying the thermal paste is easy... just put a little bit on the HS where the chip will touch it, and spread it thin (you should almost be able to see through it) If you put too much it will squeeze out the extra, but try to only put a thin layer, this works best. You can pick some up @ Radio Shack.
Bartman
04-09-01, 09:21 PM
I have a TB900 and a Fop32-1 on a KT7A-Raid board...
I just excitedly scraped the thermal stuff off with a knife when i got it (made some scratches on the bottom of the HS) and threw some Arctic Thermal II @ it... Thats ok because I planned on having is lapped by now (sand the bottom of the HS smooth), but it will be done by the end of this week.
I suggest lapping the FOP heatsinks.. mine was pretty bad from the factory, I know I will get an extra 2-3^ cooling just from lapping.
Even with a really bad job of taking off the standard thermal pad, my temps never go above 43^C. Thats with the case on, and only 1 80mm intake right now. Your 50+ sounds way to high to me.
I have (3) 51cfm 92mm fans on order, as well as the 80mm for teh fop32. I will be lapping, cutting a blowhole on top of the case, and drilling holes in the front so that the existing intake can actually breath. Add to this my Enermax 351 PS is in the mail as well.. and that has an extra 92mm exhaust fan. I am looking to get Max load temps under 40^C if at all possible with air cooling (with my setup). All that means is I feel that 45^ is way too high, so I would really freak @ 50^C :-)
I am getting a 80mm HO Panaflo fan, which is 35db, but 39cfm, so I should get FOP38 cooling without the noise. [An option if you dont like the noise]
Anyways, you shouldnt be that hot... but I can see it with no thermal compund in a case with no air flow.
Applying the thermal paste is easy... just put a little bit on the HS where the chip will touch it, and spread it thin (you should almost be able to see through it) If you put too much it will squeeze out the extra, but try to only put a thin layer, this works best. You can pick some up @ Radio Shack.
Squid (Apr 09, 2001 08:59 p.m.):
I have:
Asus A7V133
Athlon 900
256 PC133 Ram,
1. Tried overclocking through bios, but was not really sure what i was doing, got 1125 but ended up locking myself out and had to take the battery out and leave overnight.
2. Also i am using the thermal tape that came with the cooler and my temps seem a bit high, that is mid 50s, how do i go about putting the thermal grease people talk about?
Any people running similiar system i would like to know if you use the bios options or the m/b dip switches
Any and all advice welcome
Thanks
This board is a little cranky sometimes. Sometimes it gives you love, sometimes it stomps on your face ^_^. If you treat it right, it'll love you right back, though. For JumperFree, you have to set the all the dips on the FSB multiplier to the OFF position. Be careful w/ your FSB if you're overclocking w/ that. This board gets strange if you take it over say, 140. In my experiences w/ the Vcore in the BIOS, if you leave all the jumpers @ default, no matter what you set in the BIOS, it'll always default to 1.72. So I always change them on the board. Take your overclocking slowly. Only change the multiplier at first. and step it up gradually. If it won't post and you have it in JumperFree, just hit the reset button on your system, and it'll post back to default for your chip (hopefully!). If you go as far as you can w/ the multiplier, post, boot, and its not stable, it'll boot you back to the post screen. Just knock your multiplier back a few, and you're done. As for the HS, be sure to peel that stupid Thermal Pad off of the bottom and sacrifice it to the Overclocking Gods ^_^. After that, lap it w/ some wet sandpaper, apply some Arctic Thermal II, and you're set.
Thanks for the advice i think i will get rid of the thermal tape ASAP,
though i think the fan should a better job after all it does have an RPM of 6800, and a reasonable heat sink. I guess the thermal tape really does bite.
As for overclocking, so you think i should up my voltage via the board, leave my fsb freq and just up my multipyier and see what i get.
I have pc 133 ram do i need to select this in bios cause i got the impression it was set at 100 from the bios.
Thanks for the quick replies by the way..........
. I currently have a couple of ASUS boards, they are noted for not reporting the temperatures accurately, I've read that they may be off as much as 10C. That being said, remove the thermal tape, spend a little time lapping the heat sink. You can get a mirror finish in about 20 minutes, this costs almost nothing and is good for a couple of degrees. Don't forget the thermal paste, Artic Silver if you've got it, if not, get it.
. As far as locking yourself up after pushing the limits in the BIOS, you can get it restarted without removing the battery by resetting the board to the jumper mode, pins 1&2, page 18 in the manual. This way it will reboot to whatever the DIP switches are set at (I leave mine set to something other than default even when in the jumperfree mode with no problems).
. Back to the temperature issue, these ASUS boards a notorious for their inaccuracy, I am more concerned with unexpected increases rather than the actual readings that I see on the monitor, although I don't let mine get over the high 50's.
. As far as the FSB / multiplier goes, experiment to see what you can get, run the benches and go with what performs best, if close, go with the higher FSB.
. You shouldn't get into any trouble with the voltage options on the board, use the lowest setting that you can run reliably, but the max onboard of 1.85 should be no problem. Just remember more voltage = more heat.
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Squid (Apr 09, 2001 10:50 p.m.):
Thanks for the advice i think i will get rid of the thermal tape ASAP,
though i think the fan should a better job after all it does have an RPM of 6800, and a reasonable heat sink. I guess the thermal tape really does bite.
As for overclocking, so you think i should up my voltage via the board, leave my fsb freq and just up my multipyier and see what i get.
I have pc 133 ram do i need to select this in bios cause i got the impression it was set at 100 from the bios.
Thanks for the quick replies by the way..........
Yes, I think you should change your voltage via the on-board jumpers. They're kinda underneath and becide the CPU slot. W/ an Athlon 900, I think about the lowest you could set your Vcore would be around 1.50, and you can raise it as you overclock. If you feel comfortable raising your Front Side Bus, then by all means, do it. It can be a very fast and efficient way to overclock. I just don't like to do it, personally. I had this board at 1200 Mhz (8.5*142), and I think it fuxxored my hd. I'm gunna have to format on the weekend I think. Oh, what kind of RAM do you have? If you have PC133, you have to make sure that the board knows that. You set that under where you set your FSB in the BIOS, options are 100 and 133. You might also have to set the CAS of your RAM down to 2, rather than 3.
Have mine set in the bios as listed below & have no problem with it running at the core voltage settings. Works perfect at 133FSB, jumperless!
Pat
ok i lapped the h/s removed the thermal tape obviously, found that i now am 50 to 51 c, still need to get some artic silver, but will need to go into the city for that, so weekend job.
i am running my a900 at standard at the moment, with voltage set by the bios, i am going to try lower my voltage via the m/b and see how that drop my temps.
What the hell is this stuff i read about lapping your cpu, is that for real??????
Squid (Apr 10, 2001 06:36 p.m.):
ok i lapped the h/s removed the thermal tape obviously, found that i now am 50 to 51 c, still need to get some artic silver, but will need to go into the city for that, so weekend job.
i am running my a900 at standard at the moment, with voltage set by the bios, i am going to try lower my voltage via the m/b and see how that drop my temps.
What the hell is this stuff i read about lapping your cpu, is that for real??????
Yeah, lapping is real! :). When a hs comes from the factory, it is very crudely milled. Some of the ridges are very deep, and therefore don't contact your CPU very well. Just lap it untill it is smooth and even, you don't *have* to be able to see yourself in it when you're done ^_^. Then apply some Arctic Silver II and you're set. W/ the stats below, I'm running at 41 idle, 48 load (thats Celsius) and i'm stable as can be! You should be able to set your 900 unoverclocked down to at least 1.50 stablily. I try not to run it at default (1.72) because it can create more heat. You'll probably see a difference if you step your Vcore down. Good luck! :)
Ok dropped my voltage down to 1.5 from the bios set 1.72, and so far dropped down my temp to 48 "yahoo" my first little win, was at 50 to 51 c, still trying to get some artic silver, maybe this weekend, and am hoping it will drop my temp further.
Then its overclocken time, i got 1125 before from the A900 when i pushed it some more then i had the trouble. But my priority at the moment is to get the temp down.
Squid (Apr 11, 2001 01:22 a.m.):
Ok dropped my voltage down to 1.5 from the bios set 1.72, and so far dropped down my temp to 48 "yahoo" my first little win, was at 50 to 51 c, still trying to get some artic silver, maybe this weekend, and am hoping it will drop my temp further.
Then its overclocken time, i got 1125 before from the A900 when i pushed it some more then i had the trouble. But my priority at the moment is to get the temp down.
When you overclock your chip, you'll probably have to raise your voltage a bit. I'm not sure though. Experiment and see how low you can get it. The lower the better! :)
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