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Whats the difference between a standard AMD XP and an AMD XP Thoroughbred?

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richardjohn31

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Should I go for a Thoroughbred or the standard AMD XP? Will the Thoroughbred work on a Abit KD7 KT400 M/B?
 
The original Athlon XP's were based on the Palomino core. These were fabricated on a .18 micron process, and had a default voltage of 1.75v. They scaled up to the 2100+ at which the architecture proved to be limiting. The Thoroughbreds are based on a .13 micron process, allowing them to reach far higher speeds with lower amounts of voltage, and as a consequence, generally dissipate less heat and draw less power. Far better for overclocking. The base of the T-Bred's die is also significantly smaller than the Palomino. They scale up to the 2800+, with defaults of 1.45v, 1.5v, 1.6v and 1.65v.
 
OK I used to have a Tbred 2400+ Which I thought caused my computer to crash, I swaped it to Duron 900Mhz which seems fine, I couldn't RMA the 2400+ because they found no fault with it. Could it be incompatible with my motherboards? I tried it on 2 different KT400 chipsets. In my manual it only has AMD Athlon / Athlon XP / Duron. Does that mean it doesn't support a Tbred??
 
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The KT 400 chipset supports tbreds I see no reason why it wouldnt work.It could be possible that your power supply is too weak for the 2400+
 
Agreed. All KT333/400 mobos support T-Breds AFAIK. The problem lies with either your power supply or cooling. Normally, when a motherboard does not support a certain architecture, you're not going to be able to get it to boot in the first place.
 
http://members.cox.net/alpha_03/installation.htm

If you list your power supply like funnyperson1 pointed out, you may be on to the source of your problem...

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that could well be the reason for your problems, also it could be the ram, get memtest86 and run it (even with the duron) and see if it fails after a few tens of minutes if it does, then its your RAM..
But as you said the duron works fine, then the PSU might well be the culprit
 
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