Newsflash! AMD Appalbred CPU out in two weeks!

c627627 · Aug 18, 2003

Newsflash! AMD Applebred CPU out in two weeks!

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20030818153622.html

We managed to get some pretty interesting unofficial information about new entry-level processors from AMD. The company seems to plan the return of AMD Duron-like processors for inexpensive PCs with the special cut-down core named Appalbred. The chips will be available soon and will be marketed using real core-clocks, not performance ratings.

Appalbred processors will be available for orders next week and the first deliveries are expected to happen towards the end of the month. There will be three models of the CPUs: 1400MHz, 1600MHz and 1800MHz costing $32, $39 and $47 respectively in quantities starting from 1000 units. Sources close to AMD claim that 1.40GHz Appalbred processor is faster than Intel Celeron 2.0GHz chip, while the 1.60 and 1.80GHz parts offer speeds higher or comparable to mid-range Celeron CPUs.

Advanced Micro Devices also published the list of recommended mainboards for Appalbred CPUs: it contains devices from ASUS, ECS, Gigabyte, Biostar, MSI, FIC and ASRock powered by chipsets from NVIDIA, VIA and SiS and includes rather outdated devices.

Other specifications of the Appalbred are to be confirmed, but I would expect it to feature 200-266MHz FSB, 256KB or less L2 cache. The chips are mostly intended for price-conscious markets and could also become a nice upgrade option for Duron-based systems.

c627627 said:
1.4 GHz and 1.6 GHz versions this month.
1.8 GHz and higher later on.

... and they're Durons code named Applebred.

cherryp00t · Aug 18, 2003

haha thats a funny name ;d but maybe its just me.. sounds like apple bread?? =d

Bruno · Aug 18, 2003

I was thinking Appaloosa. Why would they be comparing them to slowass celerons? Hell I've seen benches where a 1700+ could out run a celeron oc'd to 3G.

If this is the Thorton then the 1400 should be comparible to the 1600+.

Bruno · Aug 19, 2003

This was from the Inquirer last Friday:

Duron revived in shape of 256K Barton?

And PR ratings mysteriously disappear

By INQUIRER staff: Friday 15 August 2003, 11:42

QUOTE
DISTRIBUTORS CLAIM today that AMD will release Barton processors with 256K cache to PC manufacturers but the chips won't be sold through the channel.
And the same sources reckon that AMD will revive the Duron name, and rate them at 1.4GHz, 1.6GHz and 1.8GHz, rather than use a PR rating.

Apparently, the Bartons are ones whcih can't hack it at the 512K cache level, and they won't go through the channel because of BIOS recognition problems.

They will only be shipped to selected manufacturers, our source claims.

These appear to be the "Thortons" there was such a fuss about earlier this year. µ

c627627 · Aug 19, 2003

Yes, I read that too but didn't know what to make of it last Friday.

Now we know it's true because it has a trademark AMD ugly core name.
These are equivalents of 1600+, 2000+ and 2200+ but should outperform them as they're Barton grade processor modules without extra L2 cache.

Can you believe this though
$32 for 1600+
$39 for 2000+
$47 for 2200+

And those are MSRPs.

Everyone will buy these chips. Everyone because they're going to be more overclockable than their equvalent T-Breds.

Can you imagine how cheap these things are going to be on sales, etc.
So that's the AMD strategy. Flood the market with inexpensive but more than adequate CPUs taking down both Intel as well as Hammers with them. Hm...
$30 CPUs

Bruno · Aug 19, 2003

We'll see when they get here. We don't know how they'll do or how much they'll cost ... yet. It's all speculatin right now. Hell nobody's even sure what to call them.

CamH · Aug 19, 2003

These things sound GREAT for folding rigs!

Hedgehogforprez · Aug 19, 2003

wonder if they would work in xp boards??

Bruno · Aug 19, 2003

Yup. they're socket A. They're emasculated Bartons.

Hedgehogforprez · Aug 19, 2003

wonder if there could be any outstanding overclockers in this bunch.....

Steven4563 · Aug 19, 2003

NICE they sound cool might have to get a few new systems to help me along on seti

tediber · Aug 20, 2003

we still got palominos in the market hehehehe

mata2974 · Aug 20, 2003

as long as you can get 400mhz OC out of them, coooler!

cherryp00t · Aug 20, 2003

even if you dont get the OC.. for 25-30 bucks you cant go wrong ;d plus its amd's price usually vendors has it even lower =d

MessiahX · Aug 20, 2003

WOW! If you really think about it, these chips will be pretty good! Consider the fact that the only diff between them and the Barton will be the cache and the FSB. Otherwise, these chips are pretty wicked. They're cheap, and can more than likely put out somewhat nearly (well, they won't be that bad) as well as they're comparable TBred chips. Even w/o OCing, they're still a great deal, and those would be great for setting up a gaming server.

DManeKid · Aug 20, 2003

cherryp00t said:
even if you dont get the OC.. for 25-30 bucks you cant go wrong ;d plus its amd's price usually vendors has it even lower =d

how could vendors sell for less than amd's price?? wouldnt they lose money doing that?

c627627 · Aug 20, 2003

It's hard to imagine $25 CPUs that good.

But go to pricewatch.com and compare the official AMD prices to those displayed there.

THat should go a long way in answering

DManeKid said:
how could vendors sell for less than amd's price?? wouldnt they lose money doing that?

madcow235 · Aug 20, 2003

Are these thortons or do these have 128kb cache and not 256kb cache like the thorton is supposed to have.

Helgaiden · Aug 21, 2003

wouldnt a barton with a lower FSB and half the cache be a T-bred? Thats a barton is anyways, a tbred with 512k cache.

c627627 · Aug 21, 2003

Yeah I know, as soon as I heard about Thortons:

http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=204995

http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=213004

"...unlike T-Bred, will have Barton grade processor modules without extra L2 cache."

It turns out when you look deeper into it, Barton is not "just a T-Bred" with double cache.

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