AZIA to replace AXIA!!! (A MUST READ for O/Cers!)

[AtomicGuY]

A friend of mine just bought a new Athlon CPU today, a 1.3GHz model and was surprised to see aZia instead of the well known AXIA found on most 1.3GHz chips today. Anyway, after hours of testing with his nice comp setup, its very clear that AMD's last attempt at the Thunderbird core was a success.

First off, for anyone with an AXIA Core, 1Ghz models will top off at about 1.53GHz, and 1.33GHz models will top off at about 1.66GHz. Yea, some people might be capable of higher speeds but I'm talking air cooling here. and the rest of the models fall in between these two markings.

Now!, the AZIA core my friend has had officially hit 1.73GHz (13x133) stable with.... only 1.870voltage! and AIR COOLING. So I'm clocking the max AZIA core @ 1.73GHz and I'm 100% sure will be avail only on the 1GHz+ models. Our chip actually went to 1.85GHz (12x150) but the heat was too intense for air cooling.

So to conclude to topic, the AZIA core will be a very good one indeed. I will guess these 1GHz models should hit about 1.6GHz with no prob.

FINALLY, anyone else with this model AZIA, post your results as soon as you read this. I know only 2 people with this one to date and I'm sure people will want to grab this one.

[Metaxas]

Uhhhhh, scuse me son, but uhhhh...last time I heard, Mobo's don't do over 12.5x multiplier.

BUSTED. ;D

[Hugo 59]

Metaxas (Apr 19, 2001 01:46 a.m.):
Uhhhhh, scuse me son, but uhhhh...last time I heard, Mobo's don't do over 12.5x multiplier.

BUSTED. ;D

Wouldn't a 1.3 on 100 fsb have to be 13x100?

[Metaxas]

There is no 13x multiplier. All though, I've never seen and or heard ANYTHING about such a newfangled ideer. SHOW me a board that has a 13x multiplier, and i'll be quiet. :)

[Hugo 59]

No need to be quiet, but.

You really got me wondering so I shut down and went into my bios. Iwill kk266 with official iwill turbo bios dated 03/07 and my multiplier goes up to 15.

[{X-H}KnownKiller]

YO the IWILL KK266 board has a 15X muliplier...Doh and on top of that...If the thing is unlocked you can do whatever ya want with the chip...Meaning as high as the chip will go...

KK

[Oldman]

Hey Met:
I hate to pop your bubble, being a newbie
on this board, but I just checked my bios
on my KK266 r1.2 and the multiplier will
go to 15x.
PS: I've worked with 100s of MB and I have
to say the KK266 is one of the best ever.

[tim]

big deal, gentlemen! It is good that The Iwill KK226 has 15x multiplier but it does have serious problem with high multiplier setting and high FSB, not the greatest board though. Others, like Abit KT7A, have only 12.5X multiplier but very few people complained about the mutiplier setting and high FSB, still not the greatest board though. They all need to be up grade... with Bios or something... better. I had both but returned the Iwill and kept the Abit because I like the performance of a system Oced with high FSB and stable as well. Abit hit the mark for me, for now :-) :-) :-)

[AtomicGuY]

lol,

son, even when others corrected you, You did know that the AMD 1.3GHz (NOT 1.33GHz) has a 13X multiplier as a defualt. So when you reset the multiplier to core defualt on ANY mobo, you will get 13X. It reroutes just like the K6-2 when you set it to 2X and get 6X from the 2X setting! Infact, I heard the 200MHz FSB line of Athlons wont end till the 1500MHz mark! thats a 15X multiplier. now you understand??? Anyway, go check out www.amd.com for Processor specs.

1.3GHz = 100 x 13

1.33GHz = 133 x 10

DONT GET THESE TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT CPUS CONFUSED PEOPLE!

and by the way, his mobo was a Kt7a-raid

[Da Whip]

Hey Metaxas, are you sure that the Senior Stars are'nt the onset of "oldtimers disease"?

[proze]

ease off. he's a senior for good reason, and just made a mistake.

atomicguy: how about some benchmarks at that speed? and where'd he get the chip?

[AtomicGuY]

I will talk to him and see if he can run a few benchmarks. In the 3DMark, he hit 12001 points.

[Spode]

easy mistake to make, I was tihnking exactly the same thing. Becuse the golden bridges on those chips are only capable upt to 12x from the literature i have read. They must have updated the bridging system when they started pumping out the higher rated chips.

[Yomama]

Interesting observations, and thank you for sharing.

I hope that this will hold true for upcoming mass production. The fact though that you only have 2 chips should not allow you to generalize yet...

For now, rather tell us where you got these CPUs and post some benchmarks.

Yo

[Megahurtz]

Hmmmmm.I reiterate everything Yomama said. I'll be on the look-out for this processor. AtomicGuy, would you share as to where this processor came from, and if it was an OEM. or retail purchase?

It's a good time to be an overclocker.

T

[SickBoy]

Is the KT7A-R capable of above 12.5x multiplier? and if so, with which bios?

SickBoy

[WinXP]

The new ZH bios for the KT7A & E has a wierd multiplier 12~17 it shows.

[Frost]

Ok.. Now.. which is the better chip? 1.3 GHz (100 X 13 multiplier) or 1.333 GHz (133 X 10 multiplier)?? I have an Abit KT7A and my BIOS only shows 12.5 multiplier. I don't think my Athlon 850 would appreciate the jump to higher numbers. *S* Right now it's settings are 133/33 X 7.5 1.85 v core, and 3.3 v I/O.. Sound about right??

Our local store has a new "choice" 1.333 GHz Athlon Thunderbird, according to my favoriet Sales man, G. Thomas White. NOW I need to find out from him what the model code is on this thing. *S*

Anyone have an extra file called pci.dll lying around I can get? appears that windows searches for this and can't find it on my systme.. minor thing. *S*

[Aman99]

Frost (Apr 19, 2001 09:03 p.m.):
Ok.. Now.. which is the better chip? 1.3 GHz (100 X 13 multiplier) or 1.333 GHz (133 X 10 multiplier)?? I have an Abit KT7A and my BIOS only shows 12.5 multiplier. I don't think my Athlon 850 would appreciate the jump to higher numbers. *S* Right now it's settings are 133/33 X 7.5 1.85 v core, and 3.3 v I/O.. Sound about right??

Our local store has a new "choice" 1.333 GHz Athlon Thunderbird, according to my favoriet Sales man, G. Thomas White. NOW I need to find out from him what the model code is on this thing. *S*

Anyone have an extra file called pci.dll lying around I can get? appears that windows searches for this and can't find it on my systme.. minor thing. *S*

Hey Vern,
Wow, I thought that name sounded familiar, then I go and check my email and sure enough! :)

Well you were wondering which is a better chip between the 1.3 Ghz and the 1.33 , and the answer would most definately be the 1.33 Ghz chip. First off, its 33 mhz faster than the other one. Second of all, it runs at 266 mhz FSB instead of the 200 mhz FSB that the 1.3 ghz runs at.

As for the model code on the chip that you want to find out, the chip should be either AXIA or AVIA, as I do not believe that AZIA's have been released yet since no one has shown a picture of them (although it is possible). Either way both the AXIA or AVIA should take you to 1500 mhz or so u get a good chip no matter what. :) Hope this helps you out!

Aaron

[asmodean]

DOES ANYONE READ ANYTHING I POST?

I'll repeat this ONE more time:

13x100 with boards 'not' supporting a multiplier of 13, is shown as 12.5x104.

10x133 is better than 13x100. FSB is higher, clock the same.

Why cannot there be AZIA's? There are BVIA's & BXIA's! I even posted a pic.

Now, cool down. This looks like a flame and it partially is. Don't take any offense, it is NOT personal to anybody. The thing is, it pisses me to write that multiplier thing a thousand times.

[Tachyon]

Why cannot there be AZIA's? There are BVIA's & BXIA's! I even posted a pic.

Now, cool down. This looks like a flame and it partially is. Don't take any offense, it is NOT personal to anybody. The thing is, it pisses me to write that multiplier thing a thousand times.[/quote]

I don't believe that anyone is saying that there can't be AZIA chips....people just want proof (pic, screen shots of performance, etc.) With all of the BS out in cyberland can you blame them?

[Tom]

My epox 8KTA3 with the latest bios supports multipliers upto 15x

[Metaxas]

Hey hey hey now...I have no "bubble" to pop. I am not aware of the SDR based world, being as I have an Iwill KA266R, and hanging out in the DDR world. So there...i've been corrected. :)

[Metaxas]

My 3DMarks in 2k are ~10050 sometimes higher, sometimes a bit lower. I got some cooling stuff for my vid card so hopefully I can clock it higher and it be more stable.

[AtomicGuY]

OK, one last time to all those of you who are confused with the 13X multiplier.

AMD has reworked the core settings on the 1.3GHz athlon processor to allow a true force of a 13X multiplier. So no matter which Athlon board you got, a 13X multiplier will be forced when you select an auto detect setting which I believe is on all AMD Boards. dont worry about the board limiting at 12.5x, thats just a bios lmitation standard that amd approved.

And as for Value, I think the 1.3GHz athlon has alot more potential than the 1.33GHz chip! because it forces that nice 13X multiplier. 1.73GHz is possible, you just have to work at it and use the 13X multiplier.

And that other question,,,,
-My friend got his athlon from a oem PC outlet store, they get there chips from oem distributers which get them from AMD. And for the record, his chip was OEM.

[AtomicGuY]

1.33GHz chip isnt as good any way you put it simply because it doesnt have the 13X multiplier.

And as for bandwidth, you can simply slim down the multiplier on the 1.3GHz chip and bump up the bus to 133. SIMPLE and you still got the nice 13X multiplier option. AZIA cores just make it easier to make it over the 1.6GHz mark.

[AtomicGuY]

LOL

and the 1.33GHz chip costs almost $40 more CAN than the 1.3GHz chip. What a rip off.

[Nagorak]

AtomicGuY (Apr 20, 2001 06:36 p.m.):
LOL

and the 1.33GHz chip costs almost $40 more CAN than the 1.3GHz chip. What a rip off.

I'm still partial to 1.0 GHz/266 FSB chips personally...sure no fancy-schmancy 13x multiplier, but they are a hell of a lot cheaper ;-)

Azia, it had to come some time. Actually, I was starting to wonder what the hold-up on it was. No matter, I'm happy at 1.4 GHz. After I realized that I was graphics card limited at any speed above 1 GHz, my craving for more speed came to an abrupt end. I had to install Folding@Home, just because there is nothing else that will even begin to take advantage of my processor's power. ;-)

I'm sure some of you will manage to find some use for 1.6 GHz though.

[kilroy7777]

keep up the good work Atomic Guy, educating the rest......