Best radiator?

[w00t]

Im thinking about making my own water system...


I think i want an ehiem pump ...

what rad would you get?

not too much plz... i dont want to spend a fortune on WC'ing...

and reccomemeded water blocks??

someone recommended the HEater core from danger den... they said it was the best.... but im a bit puzzled how it can be the best if its the cheapest one....


help

[fafnir]

1. try using the "search" button...


2. for ur water setup, use Cathar's cascade and a dtek procore, along with a eheim 1250...

should get you amazing temps....

http://www.dtekcustoms.com

and pm "cathar" for the cascade

[cypher_138]

That's what I'm using with a Danner. The Cascade totaly owns.

[wannaoc]

The procore and the heatercore are pretty much the same thing but the procore has screw in barbs and is painted. I use one and it works fine.

[Soja]

How is the cascade + eheim 1250 + procore = not a fortune :p. I'd take a look at aquastealth 1/2 customized kit (http://www.aquastealth.com/product.asp?3=9). The kit doesn't look too bad accept the iffy via (mine still works though :D). The rad looks like a regular 6x7 heatercore and the waterblock (http://www.overclockers.com/articles748/) is solid performer. If you go for diy instead just research and read up. Theres tons of info on the boards and main page that'll help you make wise decisions ;)

a wise man once said:

Originally posted by fafnir
1. try using the "search" button...

[vonkaar]

haha, no joke Soja... the poster was asking about a 'budget' WC-setup... not a Porsche.

Get a typical heatercore... look one up in the heatercore database, at link (http://www.pullmanford.com/heatercores/heatercoreinline.asp).

Get a danner3, via1300, maxijet1200 ,rio2100... for your pump.

Waterblock is apparently up to a dispute... click here (http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=225601) for a... somewhat 'open' discussion on the best $50 or cheaper waterblock.

[camel]

Originally posted by Soja
How is the cascade + eheim 1250 + procore = not a fortune :p. I'd take a look at aquastealth 1/2 customized kit (http://www.aquastealth.com/product.asp?3=9). The kit doesn't look too bad accept the iffy via (mine still works though :D). The rad looks like a regular 6x7 heatercore and the waterblock (http://www.overclockers.com/articles748/) is solid performer. If you go for diy instead just research and read up. Theres tons of info on the boards and main page that'll help you make wise decisions ;)

a wise man once said:



Thats a pretty impressive price/product. A Danner 3 or hydor option would really help.

[Raider84]

yeah, the cascade is definitely not a low budget waterblock. What does that sucka cost, like 80-100?? My whole setup will probally cost less then the block alone. Its a great block, but expensive, try a gemini cool block. there's p4 blocks at case-mod for 25 bucks, procore from dtek for 35, and eheim pump for 25!

[Soja]

Eheim pump for 25$? Where!?

[w00t]

its 65$ at case-mod.... not 25... =/

[Raider84]

its not the inline 1048 or 1250 its the submersible compact 1000

[wannaoc]

Go with a Danner mag3, heatercore, and a maze3 (http://www.dangerden.com) or TC-4 (http://www.dtekcustoms.com) or Slitedge along with some Clearflex tubing. That should serve you well and not hurt your wallet too bad.

[w00t]

whats the best read period? not money wise?

is just that those heater cores are so bulky and ugly..

[Penguin4x4]

Originally posted by w00t
whats the best read period? not money wise?


The heater cores are the best rads; the fact that they are also the cheapest is simply a perk, :D

[Raider84]

well this one is pretty
http://www.case-mod.com/store/images/large/heatercore_silver.jpg

or how about this one, its even prettier, if a radiator can be pretty.....
http://www.dangerden.com/images/bice/goldx3.gif
and yes that is gold

What can the chevette core pull, BTU per hour wise. Has anyone done tests with it!?! In other words, how many BTU/hour can the chevetter core cool?

[fafnir]

~mabye 2k watts by the way dd measures surface area and all... i'd say realistically its more like 300 watts by the temp differences we're working with...

[w00t]

yes.... watts... yeah those are pretty nice looking.. i wouldn'y want the gold one though because it doesn't really match the color scheme of my lian li pc65... i like the siver and black

where is that one from???

what type is it also? like from a car er waht?

[Soja]

I think the silver is a dtek procore (painted chevette) and the gold is a BIX.

[SemiCycle]

I wonder why not too many people talk about the scoop and XLR120 here?

Maybe because of the price. The scoop is $50 and the XLR is being sold for $67.50 (The HC is a rip-off if you ask me)

HOWEVER, you can just buy the scoop and get the XLR radiator (just a Caprice Classic W/O A/C .....1990-77 ) from Advance Auto Parts and mod it yourself for $18 bucks. It is the same heatercore I'm using.

Link to the Scoop shroud:
http://www.jpiperformance.com/thescoop.htm

Link to the XLR120:
http://www.jpiperformance.com/xlr120.htm

Link to pictures of the scoop and XLR in action:
http://www.jpiperformance.com/gallery.htm

Link to Advance Auto Parts:
http://www.partsamerica.com/PartDetails.asp?SourceArea=&SourcePage=SEARCHRESULTS&MfrCode=FEC&MfrPartNumber=2199

[w00t]

whats better...

the xlr120

or the

lrs 120?

whats the diff?

[Jibjo]

w00t for a cheap radiator: I don't know where you are located, but if in US or Canada here's what I did: Stop in at your nearest Auto parts store and ask if they can sell you a Chevy Chevette heater core. I recently got the 1987 core because it has larger diameter barbs to take 1/2 inch ID tubing... iirc I think the 1986 has smaller barbs for 3/8 ID inch tubing. This core should not cost you more than $22 US and if it's cheaper it's a bargain. I think AutoZone is maybe in teens but not sure. Depending on the tubing ID size you want, these cores are ready to go... no mods needed... of course I think it's more fun to mess with the barbs but...

[w00t]

ok... thanks man...

chevette means chevy right? (noob)

is there any year that is better than the others?

[fafnir]

actually there was a car called the chevette, made by chevy...

1987, just ask for chevette parts, they should know...

[wannaoc]

is just that those heater cores are so bulky and ugly..

Pretty much all the 120mm cores you see for sale are painted versions of the basic heatercore with barb mods. The only smaller ones are the 92mm ones (I have only seen some in the UK) and the Swiftech style 80mm ones.

[w00t]

thanks... how big is the 87'?

[Jibjo]

H = 6 inches
W = 2 inches
L = 6.125 (one eigth) inches
Input Barb = 3/4 inch
Output Barb = 5/8 inch

[w00t]

hmm.. so it cools the best huh?

[Jibjo]

Well, I think most people get it because it 1. does a great job cooling 2. fits nicely inside the front of any mid or full server case(provided you take out the HDD cage and bracket), and 3. is real inexpensive. As for "best" no, there are bigger ones twice the size that cool somewhat better, but you have mounting\placement challenges to overcome with those, and they may take twice as many 120mm fans. Going the other direction- smaller- seems to be a bad idea though.

[Lt. Max]

so wait whats the difference between the chevette heatercore (unpainted radiator @ dtek) and the pro core radiator (0.25 inches taller) are they from a different car or something ?

max

[Since87]

Originally posted by w00t
hmm.. so it cools the best huh?

So you really want the one that cools best?

You know those enormous dump trucks that they drive around in open pit mines? Get the radiator out of one of those.

Build yourself a big shroud and mount a half dozen Comair Rotron Caravel fans pulling air through it.

That'll probably get your water within a tiny fraction of a degree of ambient.

I'm sure something 'better' could be found, but you won't be able to measure the difference.

[Jibjo]

Since87 :clap: w00t: at some point picking between already excellent things degrades the marginal utility of inquiry: any car or truck HC is good, and so far, better than most commercial offerings... the waterblock and tubing ID is prolly more important than any known decent HC. And take note of Since87's point: the best WC sys only tries to get as close as possible to ambient temps;)

[copyman]

the best?

perhaps....

but expensive


http://www.watercooler.com.br/f2/a1.jpg

http://www.watercooler.com.br/f2/a2.jpg

http://www.watercooler.com.br/f2/a3.jpg

[Yuriman]

I have a chevette hc, got it for $22, just buy some black spraypaint and paint the outside. Also, I had to adapt the chevette's barbs for my use, so I took a short length of tubing(5/8", which is what both barbs are) to a 5/8 to 3/8 adapter.

[w00t]

wow, copyman... what all ya got there?