New stepping!

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Hey.. I just built a computer for a friend(alright.. my moms friend) and ordered an asus a7n8x-Vm (integrated video I know.. its for office use ) And In came an AXDA DLT3C AIWGA 0324 VPMW..... anyone seen em?

 

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• Aug 24, 2003

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That's a Tbred-A.

 

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Looks like a B to me... %^%#% It is..... Ahwell... its still a new stepping...

 

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• Aug 24, 2003

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AIWGA... the A tips it off. Anyway, it may O/C better than old Tbred-As because the As have been around for a while. You never know.

 

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That's not new. The 0319 and 0324 T-bred A's have been reported before. Back in late April in this thread: http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=189616&highlight=AIWGA

For some reason, AMD found it necessary to resume production of the "A" cores.

 

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Shade00 said:

AIWGA... the A tips it off. Anyway, it may O/C better than old Tbred-As because the As have been around for a while. You never know.

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Yea.. I had KNOWN that.. I just never noticed LOL.. the core looks the same as my t-bred B lol.. AHwell.. atleast I got an update for the AMD faq.. that stepping wasn't in there..

 

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• Aug 24, 2003

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yea its a new stepping.. but its an A.. neweggs been shipping A's so watch out

 

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• Aug 25, 2003

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DLT3C though, so it might actually do alright. Too bad you can't crank it up to see .

 

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Hmm.. I can HOPEFULLY Get an SK-7..

 

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Sterculus said:

DLT3C though, so it might actually do alright. Too bad you can't crank it up to see .

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All Tbred-A 1700+ chips are DLT3C.

 

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How far can the A's go? I just got the exact stepping listed at the top of this post. I have it at 150 bus at stock voltage, but it wouldnt post @ 166??? MSI nforce2 board and golden dragon 3200. it's my workstation at work. built it for fun, so im not sad that it's a tbred A, but i'd love to clock it up to crunch seti better.

 

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Bummer. Not a good stepping.

 

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i ran a 0248 1700+ tbred a every day @ 2gig on water @2.14v with icewater i got it to almost 2.2

it still lives today running @ 1925 with volcano 7+ on med. and 2.04v

 

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Graphic67 said:

That's not new. The 0319 and 0324 T-bred A's have been reported before. Back in late April in this thread: http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=189616&highlight=AIWGA

For some reason, AMD found it necessary to resume production of the "A" cores.

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They could not have been 0319 or 0324 in that thread as they were manufactured in May and June respectively! It must have been an earlier AIWGA.

 

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Any logical reason that AMD would resume A core production? I was under the impression that the difference in the A and B cores was the program the assembly 'bots used not the actual hardward used to produce them so it would make zero sense to make As instead of the obviously better B core. I hope I'm wrong and this isn't another of AMD's "Fabulous Business Boo-Boos".

 

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The Tbred A's have one layer less than the Tbred B's so dont disspitate heat as well.

 

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Actually, if I remember correctly, the main benefit of the extra layer of interconnects was reduction in cross-talk. I could be way off, though.

 

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Yeah you might be right - whatever it is the impact is the B's overclock way better than the A's across the board.

 

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The A core was essentially a die shrink of the Palomino from 180nm to 130nm. The B core had an extra copper layer but was also rearranged into a form which would accept larger cache (for the then future Barton core) without requiring additional major changes to the logic core.