View Full Version : Is the Corsair TwinX 256MB 3200LL better than the TwinX 256MB 3700? Also some advice
Goenitz_196
08-24-03, 10:03 PM
I looked around some sites and I saw that theCorsair TwinX 2x256MB 3200LL was always about £2 more than the TwinX 25GMB 3700 model...surely it should be the 3700 that is more expensive? I know the 3200LL offers Low Latency, but that doesn't make too much of a difference does it?
Anyway seeing as we're onto the subject of these two RAM models, which one is better for my rig I'm using now? My specs are: -
Asus P4P800 Deluxe BIOS 1009
Pentium 4 2.8c 800Mhz
ATi Radeon 9700 PRO
I can overclock the FSB to 233 and it is very stable as I notched the CPU VCore up to 1.6V....so 233FSB = 932FSB quadrupled, so 2xCorsair 3700 sticks at 466FSB would be the better and more faster choice for me am I correct? Or is there any hidden secrets I should know of?
Thanks.
Lonely Raven
08-24-03, 10:14 PM
Different companies can charge different prices for their memory.
With the Corsair you get a lifetime warranty, with KILLER
customer service, and consistant memory.
With TwinMos, it's more difficult to get the memory swapped out
as they want you to deal with the store you bought them
from, rather then directly to them. (I know this from experience).
So it's supposidly a lifetime warranty, but difficult to make good on.
TwinMOS is cheaper, and people have been known to get
higher overclocks on them with some voltage bumps. I believe
to hit the rated 233FSB, you need at least 2.8v which not all
P4 boards support. I think yours does though. Mine don't (sigh).
As for which is better for you....well if you're sure you can only
get that processor up to 233FSB, and your memory voltage
go at least to 2.8v, then I would go with the TwinMos and try
a 1:1 ratio at 233FSB.
If you can get your processor to hit 250FSB, then either one of
those sticks would do well, as you could run at 5:4 ratio and
have the processor at 250, with the memory at 200. I personally
would use the Corsair then for lower latencys.
Goenitz_196
08-24-03, 10:32 PM
Well I can get the FSB over 233 for sure, but I don't want to go that far because I know it'll REALLY heat the CPU up, plus the fact I can't afford a good Zalmans heatsink for a while, so now I'm stuck with the retail Heatsink.
As for the RAM Ratio system, I always thought the best results are achived by matching it exactly, i.e 800 = 400 or 932 = 466 cos that way you're not underclocking or overclocking the RAM's potential. This is cause I read somewhere that TIGHT-TIMINGs on RAM are always good...valid point?
Lonely Raven
08-24-03, 11:28 PM
doh! I totally misread that. I swear your post said Corsair
vs TwinMos. I'm sorry.
Back to your setup though. Dude, I run 250FSB on stock Retail
intel HSF setup and stock northbridge cooling, passive.
You shouldn't need to bump up your voltage and get the
processor so hot that you'd damage the system, really.
As for tight timings...dude, P4 are a whole new world. I've posted
this time and time again. On the AMD tight timings and CPU:RAM
in sync with as high FSB as possible are how you get performance.
On the P4 800Mhz, total overall Mhz is where the power is.
You will get more power running a P4 2.4c at 250X12 (3000Mhz)
with your memory at 5:4 then you will with a P4 3.0Gig at
stock. Do some research, the reviewers have proved it.
You WANT to run your Processor as HIGH FSB as possible, and
then run your memory at whatever ratio it can handle.
Sure you want as low of latency settings as possible, I'm not
saying that's completely unimportant. I'm simply saying that
the best overall overclock is where the power is.
And I'm not sure where you got the matched exactly thing.
I'd run 244FSB if that was all I could get out of the system.
Hell, right now my best processor is running at 284. One Mhz
further and it only starts to get unstable. And that's probably due
to heat!!
Sorry again about my misreading your post. I really thought
you said Corsair vs TwinMos. If it was Corsair vs Corsair, I'd
go with the 3700 hands down and run my CPU either 1:1 or
5:4 whichever I could get the system higher.
Goenitz_196
08-25-03, 07:55 AM
Heh yeah when I read my own topic it DOES seem to look like TwinMOS...sorry for the confusion. Anyway thanks, but the problem is that currently I'm using 1 stick of Kingston 512MB 2700 Value RAM, which I heard is unfavoured for the Asus P4P800. So if I do not bump the CPU voltage up at 233 FSB it can get unstable and hang when I try Sandra's CPU Multimedia benchmark. I guess when I get the new 2x3700 RAM it will keep it stable WITHOUT the CPU voltage bumped up right? I'm not too sure on this you see.
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