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bardos
08-31-03, 01:13 AM
why do i suddenly see so many northwoods for sale on e-bay with broken pins. Is there something new about separating the cpu from the mobo or the hsf? What's new here?

thanks, eric

n00bular
08-31-03, 03:39 AM
Broken pins might mean a dead cpu. Not always the case, but sometimes a cpu with broken pins might still work. It just depends if you are lucky to break the pins that are "useless"

Maybe they just want to sell a dead cpu/presumed dead cpu to get some money out of it.

bardos
08-31-03, 03:54 AM
i am aware that the cpu may still be alive, my question is directed towards understanding why folks are breaking the pins. Is there anything special about mounting or dismounting this cpu?

Isn't it a Zero Insertion Force thingmiebob?

e.

batboy
08-31-03, 09:36 AM
Lots of folks out there are idiots.

texasfit
08-31-03, 10:30 AM
There were a lot of ppl getting OEM cpu's from Outpost.com a while back with bent pins. Maybe they tried to straighten them and broke them off instead of just returning the cpu.

bardos
08-31-03, 11:20 AM
check these out, i kid thee not.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3428473565&category=14293&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3428596938&category=14293

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3428597050&category=14293

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3428597112&category=14293

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3428597167&category=14293

eaglescouter
08-31-03, 11:28 AM
4 of these are from the same seller. I wonder what kind of deal he gets from Intel for broken pin samples?

bardos
08-31-03, 11:31 AM
they appeared to function. we'll see the feedback. Folks bid them up to half price.Interesting... Really, you can sell anything on e-bay with some good hype.

n00bular
09-02-03, 03:09 AM
Originally posted by bardos
Interesting... Really, you can sell anything on e-bay with some good hype.

YES YOU CAN :D :D :D

ebay link (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2948785636&category=1467)

Link #2 ( yep us college students sure got it hard :D ) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2852378265&category=11511)

markodude
09-02-03, 09:12 AM
A lot of people break them removing the HSF, which often pulls out the CPU from its socket, a right royal pain in the ass....

bardos
09-02-03, 09:23 AM
"A lot of people break them removing the HSF, which often pulls out the CPU from its socket, a right royal pain in the ass...."

Ok, that's the info I was looking for. Now here's the ?: Why is this cpu/hsf combo (pIV) different from any other cpu/hsf combo which makes for this behaviour to occur more frequently?

e.

TC
09-02-03, 11:16 AM
There isn't anything that different about the hsf and cpu. What's happening is oem companies often use a very sticky thermal adhesive to bond the hsf to the cpu instead of relying solely on the clips. When some unsuspecting person tries to forcefully yank the hsf off it can pull the cpu out of the socket while it's in the locked position - thus potentially breaking pins.

Since87
09-02-03, 11:36 AM
I think the large surface area of the P4 heatspreader contributes greatly to the CPU being pulled out with the heatsink.

I've had the CPU pull out with the stock Intel goop, and even with AS3 I've had to really work to get the HS free of the CPU before I could get it out.

I've since removed the IHS, and it is much easier to remove my waterblock without yanking the CPU out.

TC
09-02-03, 09:46 PM
A gentle twisting motion works quite well to free any adhesion before lifting the hsf up.