Whats the fastest folding box?

[Afmo]

Whats the fastest non server cpu/mobo?

Im looking to buy another pc but for as cheap as possible

Ideas and links are welcome :D

[NiTrO bOiE]

A 2.4C overclocked to 3.6Ghz I'm guessing. And since it's HT you can run two consoles at the same time. Or you can buy some cheap athlon combos for under $100 and buid a farm.

[dippy_skoodlez]

Originally posted by NiTrO bOiE
A 2.4C overclocked to 3.6Ghz I'm guessing. And since it's HT you can run two consoles at the same time. Or you can buy some cheap athlon combos for under $100 and buid a farm.

I would get a cheap ECS k7s5a, or some random $30 mobo, and an athlon 1700+ and start farming :D just stick em in a rack.. like $100 for taht combo, if you have spare memory/ddr ;) I put out like a WU a day at the least I think on this 1700. Not OC'd yet.. a7n8x is shipped and on its way :D

[Arkaine23]

An AMD dually with CPU's that are bridge-modded for higher multiplyers, buty on a relatively cheap dually board with few OC'ing features, not necessarily a KD7....

[Sterculus]

Well, if you wanna go for cheap, then go AMD. For a rig that's not really a farm rig, get an 8RDA+ (~$80), a 1700+ DLT3C ($60), some decent RAM ($75), and a good heatsink (SLK-800 or something with a good fan, $45), which puts you at $260 plus all the other stuff, and that should overclock very nicely :)
Or as Arkaine said, an AMD dually would also fold nicely.
There was a site somewhere where you submitted your times on your comps for folding, then it created a 'hall of fame' fastest folding boxes thing, but I forget where it is :p

[NiTrO bOiE]

Originally posted by Sterculus

There was a site somewhere where you submitted your times on your comps for folding, then it created a 'hall of fame' fastest folding boxes thing, but I forget where it is :p

I remember the link, but it's no longer online. :(

[Fast420A]

Get as MANY parts as you can used from the classified, ebay or Newegg Refurbs and you can have a farm for under $150 per layer.

[Yahoolian]

It is not about fastest(even if your very rich), it is about most cost effective.

[Arkaine23]

Most cost-effective is to build a yatta mosnter with either terminal services and pxe booting from one HDD, or using bootable folding CD's like Overfoldix and Overclockix.

No case (well, a rack)
No monitor
No kb
No mouse
64mb or 128mb ram/ layer
cheapo everything integrated non-OC'ing motherboards
bridge-modded XP's

[MrMarbles]

a sorta related question
Is it at all possible to go green with only one CPU?

[Ben721]

Originally posted by MrMarbles
a sorta related question
Is it at all possible to go green with only one CPU?

With a 2.4C overclocked past 3.0 you should be able to get close to 1200ppw, I may be wrong though, can someone back me up?

Edit: I mean a cpu with HT and running 2 instances, as far as I know it will let you go yellow am I correct?

[Cjwinnit]

Originally posted by MrMarbles
a sorta related question
Is it at all possible to go green with only one CPU?

With the right Gromacs protein you could fold at about 600 ppw on a P4 @ 2Ghz. Link. (http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=229766)

In other words yes :)

[nikhsub1]

Originally posted by Ben721


With a 2.4C overclocked past 3.0 you should be able to get close to 1200ppw, I may be wrong though, can someone back me up?

Edit: I mean a cpu with HT and running 2 instances, as far as I know it will let you go yellow am I correct?
Yes close, probably more like 1100 PPW running 24/7, maybe less. My P4 @ 3.6 with HT does 1239.71 PPW with 2 clients running 24/7.

[Ben721]

That's crazy folding points, I really want that so bad but I must resist. :)

[MrMarbles]

wow didnt even think about 2 instances with HT

me want a new CPU now.. but I wish it were that easy

[Yahoolian]

Originally posted by Arkaine23
Most cost-effective is to build a yatta mosnter with either terminal services and pxe booting from one HDD, or using bootable folding CD's like Overfoldix and Overclockix.

No case (well, a rack)
No monitor
No kb
No mouse
64mb or 128mb ram/ layer
cheapo everything integrated non-OC'ing motherboards
bridge-modded XP's
Actually, you could elimate the HD/CDRom drive.
http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/articles/howto/FAH_Diskless_Farm_1.html

[wannaoc]

Very interesting article, alot of work though, thanks.

[Skiing Squirrel]

Indeed. I must resist the temptations to spend this 200 bucks I got sitting right here on a farm... Must resist.

[Fast420A]

Why resist, you know you want to and will end up doing it?

[Arkaine23]

Originally posted by Yahoolian

Actually, you could elimate the HD/CDRom drive.
http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/articles/howto/FAH_Diskless_Farm_1.html


That's what I was talking about- one hdd (the server) to network boot all the layers. Can even be done with a bootable CD that's pre-configured as the terminal server.

[Maxvla]

Originally posted by nikhsub1

Yes close, probably more like 1100 PPW running 24/7, maybe less. My P4 @ 3.6 with HT does 1239.71 PPW with 2 clients running 24/7.
wow. i didn't realize that you got so many points doing that.


hmmm :D

[Malakai]

Originally posted by nikhsub1

Yes close, probably more like 1100 PPW running 24/7, maybe less. My P4 @ 3.6 with HT does 1239.71 PPW with 2 clients running 24/7.

I'm sorry, but there is no way that p4 is scoring that high.


I have 3 rigs folding for me, for a total of about 1200ppw. They are:

1 Pentium 4 b 3ghz HT enabled
1 2.2ghz Athlon Tbred
1 2.3ghz Athlon Barton (mine)

I just don't see how that score is at all realistic on 1 processor, when I have double the mhz.

[Arkaine23]

Are you running 2 instances on the P4?

[Melhisedek]

Originally posted by nikhsub1

Yes close, probably more like 1100 PPW running 24/7, maybe less. My P4 @ 3.6 with HT does 1239.71 PPW with 2 clients running 24/7.

Do you have any idea how much would you get for running one instance only ?

Thank you for your time!

[Malakai]

Originally posted by Arkaine23
Are you running 2 instances on the P4?


No.



I retract my eariler complaint for now pending my changing all my boxes to using the 3.25 beta client, as soon as I get the -advmethods –forceasm flags to work on the service install. I will also get 2 instances on the 3ghz HT P4.

If my points more than double then I will apologize and admit I was wrong. I didn't know about the SSE bug in 3.24, nor did I know about beta 3.25 floating around.

[MLMIB]

wait, where is this beta?

[Afmo]

what if they made a 64bit edition??? (fx)

[Fast420A]

EVERYONE GET THE BETA HERE!!!!! (http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/beta/beta.html)

I run the beta on all my boxes that are running Win98, the service install already comes with it setup with the flags for gromacs. I use this on even my slower non SSE machines and they go faster on the gromacs than tinkers by about 30 - 50 PPW on both boxes. (800mhz and 1 Ghz Athlons)

I really think our PPW would go up a lot if everyone is running the betas with the flags, HT//Dual processors are all running 2 clients, everyone with XP/2000 installing the one click install so that the client is running all the time without easily being stopped.

I see a lot of people in the stats that are running 1 rig turning in a 70.9 point tinker every 3 days. That could EASILY be 2 50 - 60 point gromacs in the same amount of time if you run the flags and the beta console.

Lets turn it up a notch!!!!
:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

[MrMarbles]

haha well said

does it actually make a difference if you are running a service install or have console/em setup?

[Fast420A]

All the oneclick/service install does is start the Windows 3.25 Beta console with the flags setup as A WINDOWS SERVICE so it is running hidden and family members can't shut it down or if your a system admin, the employees don't shut it off because they don't see it. Also if the computer is on, it's folding. I wish there was a way of getting something like the service to run on Win98 also so my dad won't shut down the graphical like he does sometimes.

[Malakai]

Originally posted by Fast420A
EVERYONE GET THE BETA HERE!!!!! (http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/beta/beta.html)

I run the beta on all my boxes that are running Win98, the service install already comes with it setup with the flags for gromacs. I use this on even my slower non SSE machines and they go faster on the gromacs than tinkers by about 30 - 50 PPW on both boxes. (800mhz and 1 Ghz Athlons)

I really think our PPW would go up a lot if everyone is running the betas with the flags, HT//Dual processors are all running 2 clients, everyone with XP/2000 installing the one click install so that the client is running all the time without easily being stopped.

I see a lot of people in the stats that are running 1 rig turning in a 70.9 point tinker every 3 days. That could EASILY be 2 50 - 60 point gromacs in the same amount of time if you run the flags and the beta console.

Lets turn it up a notch!!!!
:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

I had my team do all this stuff a few hours ago.

Beat you:)

http://www.genmay.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=198294

[Cjwinnit]

Originally posted by Malakai
I had my team do all this stuff a few hours ago.

Beat you:)

http://www.genmay.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=198294

Good work. I yearn for the day the son outdoes the father ;)

[Melhisedek]

Does the latest 1.7 One-Click install have 3.25 beta client or ? Because I have it installed and I'm wondering if I should upgrade somehow ?

One more thing is... How much of a improvement should I see from running 2 clients on a HT enabled machine ?

Thank you for your time!

[Malakai]

Originally posted by Cjwinnit


Good work. I yearn for the day the son outdoes the father ;)

:cool:

[NiTrO bOiE]

Originally posted by Fast420A
I wish there was a way of getting something like the service to run on Win98 also so my dad won't shut down the graphical like he does sometimes.

There is: http://www.overclockers.com.au/folding/service-nt2000xpnew_updated.htm

[axlecrusher]

Do people running linux on a dual athlon need the beta version? Is there even a beta version on for linux?

Axle

[Arkaine23]

Depends on your distro and its glibc version. 3.24B is for the newest distros which use glibc 2.3 (MDK9.1, RH 9 among others). Distros with an older glibc can use the 3.25 beta client. If you try the 3.25 client or regular 3.24 client on a distro with the newer glibc, you'll know it right away because it will cause a segmentation fault. Distros wil glibc 2.2 or older can use any of the clients.

For those who care: Overclockix uses 3.25 beta, so does Overfoldix. These are CD distros that can run without a hard drive and are preconfigured for folding@home. Overclockix can be installed pretty easily (takes about 30 minutes) and its Debian-based. http://overclockix.octeams.com

[axlecrusher]

Ok, it sounds like i don't need the beta because I'm using 3.24B using RH 9. I guess it's glibc 2.3.

Edit: Yea it's glibc 2.3. Does the linux client have to be restarted after every WU in order to get the SSE boost on every WU?

Axle

[Melhisedek]

Originally posted by Melhisedek
Does the latest 1.7 One-Click install have 3.25 beta client or ? Because I have it installed and I'm wondering if I should upgrade somehow ?

One more thing is... How much of a improvement should I see from running 2 clients on a HT enabled machine ?

Thank you for your time!

Anyone ?