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hurley
05-07-01, 02:32 PM
Does burning really help you achieve higher speeds or is it b.s?all help is appreciated!!!!

jeff_harrison_344
05-07-01, 02:36 PM
Some say yes some say no. I say yes:

Before burning in:

Tbird 900 @ 1058

After burning in:

TBird 900 @ 1103

stool
05-08-01, 12:36 AM
I would have to agree. TBird 1.33(266)@1466(11x133) before burnin, slowly got it to 1507(11x137). Still progressing.

Thelemac
05-08-01, 12:48 AM
It works. It's kinda like when you open a can of pop and you flap the pull tab a couple of times and it just sorta pops off. The working of the metal causes it to do that action more easily, until you can easily overpower it. Same applies, though I wouldn't worry about the voltage being enough to suddenly overpower your cpu, as those forces are on a much smaller scale than the one that I used.

psx2doctor
05-08-01, 01:44 AM
What do u use to burn in and for how long ?

thanks

Dr_Kildare
05-08-01, 01:55 AM
Burning in didn't really help me achieve any higher clock speed but it enabled me to drop the voltage down by a bit....
My Athlon 600@900MHz was orginally at 1.9V but now chugs along nicely at 1.8V - with a nice drop in temperature...

A good burning in program I use is CPU Stability Tester which can be found here...
http://www.jv16.org/

lightning
05-08-01, 02:25 AM
another good burn-in program such as sisoft sandra burn-in and any of those "seti or folding"@home!! they work great!! i personally like prime95 and 3dmark2k!! burn in @ default or lower FSB with high Vcore!! :)

-=UR=- Ranger
05-08-01, 04:24 AM
Burning in does help..I fact, it helped me, to get my classic Ahtlon from 850 up to 927, I believe, that there´s still some potential in it

!-=sky=-!
05-08-01, 04:38 AM
mine did too
b4 burn in

duron 750 --> 93? (forgot)

after

969(9.5x102)

Hoot
05-08-01, 06:37 AM
C'mon guys...

A famous person once said "The problem with Science Fiction is it's too much Fiction and not enough Science."

You're not breaking trail in the snow here. Its an electrical path, not a mechanical path.

All that burning in accomplishes is to weed out a weak component, hopefully before the warranty expires and to allow the newly installed HSF to settle through the thermal compound layer, down upon the core. This is the result of elevated temperature and vibration from the fan. Given, once a better thermal junction between the two is established, the CPU may run a little cooler, which may allow you to get a little higher OC for the same vcore.

Think about it...

Hoot

!-=sky=-!
05-08-01, 10:32 AM
Hoot (May 08, 2001 06:37 a.m.):
C'mon guys...

A famous person once said "The problem with Science Fiction is it's too much Fiction and not enough Science."

You're not breaking trail in the snow here. Its an electrical path, not a mechanical path.

All that burning in accomplishes is to weed out a weak component, hopefully before the warranty expires and to allow the newly installed HSF to settle through the thermal compound layer, down upon the core. This is the result of elevated temperature and vibration from the fan. Given, once a better thermal junction between the two is established, the CPU may run a little cooler, which may allow you to get a little higher OC for the same vcore.

Think about it...

Hoot

about the thermal grease part :
this is not appliable to me
and what bad is that mycpu temp is kinda rising.
but
the burnin in works

pik33
05-09-01, 06:39 AM
It works.
I can lower VCore with the same stable speed
It is not effect of better cooler contact because cooler was changed several times.
910 MHz: 1.775V -> 1.675 V after about 2 weeks of using CPU

asmodean
05-09-01, 07:00 AM
Helps. Definitely. For me.

Yesterday I decided to try (once again) that 143 FSB and it went thru 4 pifast runs error free. Didn't do that couple of weeks a go. Now I left it crunching Prime95 Torture Test @144FSB... Hopefully it's error free when I get home. I'm also going to try that 1.2g barrier (starts drooling). 30% is pretty impressive for a 900 tbird, I think.

mrpcman
05-09-01, 04:21 PM
I don't think it make a heck of a difference for me. I ran rc5 24/7 for 6months and got this: 900 @ 1100 After: 900 @ 1100.

Megahurtz
05-09-01, 05:00 PM
I am rather familiar with PMOS and NMOS structure. If done properly it won't hurt. One of the keys is to keep the temperature low during burn-in. I never let my temperatures exceed 40C. Running high CPU and sub-system usage programs..several at a time is a good way to not only test your CPU and system for stability, but can also provide some assistance for an overclocking attempt.

In overclocking, nothing is assured. If you want to give Burning-in a try, there is a reasonable explanation of the theory and practice here: http://people.freenet.de/s.urfer/conditioning.htm

I do it as a matter of course..if you're going to have a failure, it's likely to be early in a products MTBF. So, I always stress my builds as soon as they're completed, and stable.

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