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Dermen
09-09-03, 06:00 PM
I had planned on buying a 2.4C around the first of November, but somebody said that it is being discontinued in October. The 2.6C is supposed to go down in price then. Should I get a 2.4C while I still can eventhough I won't be able to get anything else until November? I don't know how fast sellers will run out of these chips. I might be able to still get one in November still. Or should I just get the 2.6C since it will be getting a price cut?

I want to get to at least 3.2 by overclocking.

Maxvla
09-09-03, 07:54 PM
yes the 2.4c is not going to be available after the october price cut. they will still have some stock in stores but the stores can't get any more from intel.

2.6c will be bottom of the line for the p4.

micamica1217
09-09-03, 08:09 PM
and I see no reason the 2.6c shouldn't hit 3.2ghz-3.5ghz

mica

SemiCycle
09-09-03, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by micamica1217
and I see no reason the 2.6c shouldn't hit 3.2ghz-3.5ghz

mica

I agree, I kinda wish I would have gone with the 2.6 over my 2.4.

Dermen
09-10-03, 01:14 AM
Thanks, 2.6 it is.

Jarlax
09-11-03, 12:16 PM
Anyone hear how the prices will change in October on the remaining CPU's? I am planning to build a new system in November or December and was just curious. Is the 2.6 only going to come down to the current 2.4 cost of around 170?

Big Nuttz
09-11-03, 01:58 PM
I better get on the ball and order another 2.4c before they're gone.

Jarlax
09-11-03, 02:31 PM
Doing a little looking around I found the following bit of info:

Here are the preliminary prices of Intel Pentium 4 CPUs after and before the 26th of October:

Intel Pentium 4 Pricing
CPU Model June 23 October, 26
Pentium 4 3.20GHz (800MHz; HT) $637 $417
Pentium 4 3.06GHz (533MHz; HT) $401 $262
Pentium 4 3.0GHz (800MHz; HT) $417 $278
Pentium 4 2.80GHz (800MHz; HT) $278 $218
Pentium 4 2.80GHz $262 $193
Pentium 4 2.66GHz $193 $163
Pentium 4 2.60GHz (800MHz; HT) $218 $178
Pentium 4 2.53GHz $193 $163
Pentium 4 2.40GHz (800MHz; HT) $178 -
Pentium 4 2.40GHz $163 -


Source:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20030604081559.html


Sorry for the bad formatting but you can get the point. But this article is from June so of course it could change?!?

mtnbikerjerry
09-12-03, 05:32 AM
I would assume that Intel would not drop the price entirely down to the price of the 2.4C. I think the average price of the 2.6C after price cuts will be around 180 USD to just a tad under 200 USD dollars. Dropping the 2.6C to the price of a 2.4C is just pushing it.

The 2.4C will still be around just like when the 1.6A got bumped off from Intel, and the 1.8A Nothrwood CPUs became the lowest end 512k Cache CPU's.

bardos
09-12-03, 09:32 AM
so working with all that, it would mean that the price of the 2.4ghz cpu is going to

rise
fall
stay the same

after 26th October?

e.

Liquid3D
09-12-03, 10:06 AM
To be honest ( as if there's another way) I'd recommend finding a reliable source, and buying as many as you can. I'd get one from them first, OC it. And if it performs well get some more. I beleive as they work through the bins with cores condusive to the higher multipliers, the quality may in fact decrease.

In my opinion the better core's are released early, because the best performers will only perpetuate more interest, hence more sales. It's been the case (if one references the Overclockers.com CPU Database) that the 2.6C, and 2.8C are not as overclockable as the Malay 2.4C's. I have two; one is L310A735, the other Q320A287 they both easily reach 3.6GHz at default vcore. And will post well above this, however, my Abit IS7-E NB seems to be incapable of getting much above 300FSB. I fried my Epox 4PCA3+, and let someone use my Abit IC7-G. However I think

my OS and/or HDD is experiencing some corrupton. I'm now running a 2.8C L323A832 Malay, and while it's very stable at 250FSB 3.5GHz, it wouldn't boot at 300FSB. I'll go back to the drawing board tonite, but am awaiting an MCX4000-Tec. My Thermalright SLK-947-U is the best I've ever used by them, but i think i need some Peltier help. My Prommies is en route to Denmark.
Anyway buy up those 2.4C's as they are the same core a the 3.@C, and obviously at 3.^GHz are running 400MHz over the flagship model. Their the best overclocker's I've seen in years. Only the AMD Thoroughbred-B JIUHB1700's came close to the ovrclocking prowess of the Northwood-D 2.4C.

Dermen
09-13-03, 01:33 AM
I looked at the cpu database and the 2.6C's average oc is 3474mhz, while the 2.4C's average oc is 3323mhz. 151mhz difference is not a lot for the price difference. But, if its gonna be the same price then who cares about price.

Another thing I noticed with the cpu database is there are 57 2.4C entrys and only 21 2.6C entrys. Maybe once the 2.4C is gone and everybody starts ocing the 2.6C we will see higher numbers. Now, I am trying to find the polls for the 2.4C and 2.6C to see what they say.

I still don't know which I should go with.

EDIT

I found the pole, but it was for was for the 2.8C, not the 2.6C. But it was still interesting to look at. Around 40% got 3.4-3.59ghz out of 39 people. The cpudatabase has an average oc of 3392 for the 2.8C with 19 entrys. This makes me think the cpudatabase numbers for the 2.6C might also be lower than what people on the forums are getting because of the lack of entrys in the cpudatabase for the higher chips.

Ununquadium114
09-13-03, 06:01 AM
hmmm, thats suprising

I guess I'll have to pick one up after I get prommy

Liquid3D
09-13-03, 08:20 AM
I'm running a 2.8C L323A832 and it's doing 250FSB for 3.5GHz, but it really struggles above this. It'll post all the way to 3.(GHz, but I'm getting very odd behavior at that speed? I have AGP/PCI locked, and have ran this memory up to 275FSB 1:1, but it just won't load into Windows, above 3.6GHz? I've tried all the dividers think perhaps the memory had something to do with it, regardless of divider.

Sorry I digress (again) point being the 2.8C Malay is a decent overclocker considering. I also noticed to boot into 3.9GHz I had to raise the Vcore to 1.625V which I don't really like to do. It'll run to about 3.8GHz at default, but as I said I've only got into windows with any stability under 3.7GHz (3.6GHz). The temps were still only around 34C. I attribute that to the excellence of the Thermalright SLK-947-U, and Vantec Tornado 92mm/119CFM HSF combo. I must say every Thermalright I've had from the SLK800 to the SLK947, has completely opened up overclocking options. I haven't seen anything like 42C, except when I used Nanotherm Blue II on a hot day way high overclock.

batboy
09-13-03, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by bardos
so working with all that, it would mean that the price of the 2.4ghz cpu is going to

rise
fall
stay the same

after 26th October?

e.

We need to look into our crystal ball.

I remember a year ago when Intel discontinued the 1.6A. People were gnashing their teeth and weeping. Then we just moved to the 1.8A and life was good again. After they did away with the 1.8A, then the 2.4B took over the limelight. Everytime Intel retires a celebrity, a new star is born.

Back when the 1.6A was discontinued, at first it still enjoy a cheap price until supplies dwindled. Then as there were more demand than number of CPUs, prices rebounded a little. So, I'm guessing the 2.4C will do about the same thing as prices go.

A year from now we'll be saying, "Remember that old 2.4C, hehehe, that was a classic overclocker, yep those were the good ol' days..." Just like I bemoaned the demise of my 300A Celeron (450 MHz), 566 Celeron (850 MHz), 700 P-III (1050 MHz), 2.0A P-4 (2.66 gig) and 2.4C P-4 (3.3 gig).

Liquid3D
09-13-03, 11:20 AM
Actually I agree with you, why buy a bunch of 2.4C's your only going to want a Prescott when it comes out.

And I don't really care that people are criticizing the Prescott, that must be marketing fodder. So it's producing 103Watts, truth be known I've heard it's actually producing 120W, so do they really understand how that measures in the scheme of things?

Using Silicon On Insulator at the .09-micron die, is going to yeild some very fast, and very stable speeds if you ask me. People say I'm silly, but I beleive we'll get 5GHz out of the first babies with some pelt action. I've read thoroughly about SOI, and Intel's SSOI, and it's going to have a significant impact. I don't think too many people even realize how fundamentally important this is to the problems of junction capacitance, leakage, HEAT etc.