Minimum CPU for foldiong

[Bigdogbmx]

I have just aquirred a pentium 1 60 mhz machine and I was wondering if I set it off folding wether it would be pointless? Someone said there is a time limit on WUs so this wouldnt finish them in time. Bear in mind I can always go extreme and overclock it to 66mhz turbo style.

[Deathknight]

Probably not worth it, but you could make that into a nice firewall box :)

[vonkaar]

You could probably fold that with the Google Toolbar trick... but I believe the minimum for F@H is 200mhz.

[Bigdogbmx]

Erm, how do you mean a firewall box Deathknight? Is there a point on a single 56k machine? Other things I thought is a CS dedicated server? Or what about that overclockix? DOes that have a minimum CPU?

[Deathknight]

Ahh heh yeah a single 56k connection probably doesn't need a seperate firewall box. Sorry sometimes I think its normal that I have computers littrered all over the house that all have access to the internet hehe.

[slater3333uk]

Ive got a p100@133 folding but i dont think its submitted one work unit in like 5months, so i guess its not relly worth it :(

edit: i just thought i didnt mention it prolly only on for a couple of hours each day but still 5months!

[Bigdogbmx]

ROFL 5 months. Ill leave it out then. Do you know the minimum specs for a CS/Halflife server?

[pik4chu]

whatever the recommended specs are for running Half Life, after all it does have to run it ;)

[RideGuy]

Originally posted by Bigdogbmx
ROFL 5 months. Ill leave it out then. Do you know the minimum specs for a CS/Halflife server?


Officially mimimum requirements are a P233 with 64 megs, 400mhz recommended. However, we were running a CS server on a P200 and it was good for 4 people, but started lagging at around 6. We moved to a P2 400 and it's great for about 12 people but the stats don't keep up. We are about to move to an Athlon 750.


RideGuy

[Cowboy Shane]

The genomes don't have time limits, but that computer is still going to take so long to do anything that it is probably not worth the trouble. At least you wouldn't have to give it an internet connection very often...

[Bigdogbmx]

Anyone got any ideas what I CAN do with it? Im stumped. It has to be good for something. Its a frigging computer. Is it worth the money for the RAM?

[Deathknight]

How much memory does it have?

[Bigdogbmx]

Thats all it doesnt have, RAM. I can get as much as I need easily though its cheap now. I think the max is 128, ie 4x32mb.

[orangebug]

I've got a P200 machine that I've loaded Mandrake 9.1 onto and it's doing genome units. It can take several days for the small ones and a couple months for the biggies. I can get about 10 - 12 ppw on average with it. It's probably not worth it but I use it to help me learn Linux. I can't see spending money for the electricity to run P60 to fold. It truly is a boat anchor, in my opinion.


Orangebug

[Bigdogbmx]

It would actually be a pretty decent boat anchor it weighs enough. I carried 1/2 mile home at the same time as walking my dog and carrying 2 40oz beers so I know that much about it. Maybe I could run Linux off it. Also I saw an article in a magazine about using old computer cases for new PCs, like they had spectrums and commodores with a celeron 933 in and stuff. I might do that and then theives will leave it alone. Or I might wait till they start selling fireworks again and blow it up. Has to be good for that.

[Bigdogbmx]

Oh and a guy had a NES with a PC in. That was the best one, I want that setup so much, NES at 2200mhz. How cool.

[Cjwinnit]

Winamp needs very few system resources so it can play .mp3's without too much bother if you want a seperate music box, just network-mount some drives and folders. Most Linux distro's will run on it flawlessly but WinXP will have problems, as it has a 233Mhz recommended speed, if it let's you install it at all...

[E_Man]

you could put in one of dem fm/am recording cards and use it as a radio and record music from radio on it n stuff.

[Cjwinnit]

Originally posted by E_Man
you could put in one of dem fm/am recording cards and use it as a radio and record music from radio on it n stuff.

That's a possibility. You could get a plug-in for Winamp called Shoutcast. It can recieve Line-in or a playlist of .mp3's and transmit it across a network. Might be fun to do :)

[Audioaficionado]

I do that at home.

I have 25Gb of non P2P mp3s on my main rig and any other PC on my lan can play it with winamp. there's over a months worth of 24/7 128bit music on that HD and each PC can create their own playlist.

I don't think you can fold with a 60MHz Pentium. The power cost wouldn't be worth it in the long run. Put DOS & wfw3.11 dual booted with 95. Nice legacy DOS game box.

[Bigdogbmx]

Errr, whats wfw3.11?

[Cjwinnit]

Originally posted by Bigdogbmx
Errr, whats wfw3.11?

Windows For Workgroups version 3.11 :)

[dagamore]

wfw3.11 the os before winnt 3.5(the evil version of nt) :D

[Bigdogbmx]

Ah ok. I dont have that. I think we only have 98 and 2000 in the house. Im trying to download knoppix on my 56k but its taking a while. That should run ok on there from the cd drive though shouldnt it?

[Arkaine23]

Originally posted by Bigdogbmx
Erm, how do you mean a firewall box Deathknight? Is there a point on a single 56k machine? Other things I thought is a CS dedicated server? Or what about that overclockix? DOes that have a minimum CPU?

Yes, Overclockix does have some minimum requirements if you want to run graphically. 128mb of ram or 96 mb if you use a window manager other than KDE. And a good 300mhz CPU are my minimum recommendations for Overclockix. It can run on 64mb ram and a 25mhz CPU if you run it in text mode.

[Bigdogbmx]

Cool so ig i get enough ram I could use it?
Also can I use it as normal knoppix for other stuff?

[Cjwinnit]

Originally posted by Bigdogbmx
Ah ok. I dont have that. I think we only have 98 and 2000 in the house. Im trying to download knoppix on my 56k but its taking a while.

Send me a SAE and a blank CD and i'll burn it for you if you like...

Appenda: I'm extending this to all folders and SETI'ers (the CD contains both clients i've been informed). If you need Overclockix burned I can do it for you :)

[Bigdogbmx]

YES PLEASE!!:D Thanks Cj Ill PM you about it. I appreciate that a lot.

[Cjwinnit]

Bump. Send CD's to bigdogbmx. Anyone else need a linux .iso? :)

[Audioaficionado]

I can't imagine downloading 700Mb iso files with dial-up.

[Bigdogbmx]

Largest Ive done so far is 280 of 380 for the steam counterstrike installer. You just get a download manager that hangs up at a set time and leave it on overnight. Not that much bother when u think about it. Tonight should be the last night I have to leave it going and its only the fourth night Ive left it on.

[Audioaficionado]

I remember staying up most of the night getting a 16Mb patch for QII. I had to click on a new page every so often or the dialup connection would be shut off by the ISP.

[Bigdogbmx]

Lol the joy of modems. :rolleyes: I was like that waiting for the halflife updates so I could play TFC. It was so worth it though :D

[Audioaficionado]

I've still got the original program folder that I installed QII in when I was running 95. Guess what?

I can still play it without reinstalling it. I just shortcut to the exe and it plays in 98, w2k, XP & s2k3.

The Game CD is long gone but if I put any heavymetal music CD in while I play, the game plays it while I blow 'em all away.

[RoadWarrior]

Okay, what you need to do with that P60 is get a 6 inch square heatsink from a powered cooler/icebox put a 120mm fan on top, mod the motherboard by either hacking the PLL IC or putting in a different clock crystal, overvolt the CPU to 7V instead of 5, put the heatsink on with AS3, and let her rip at a stunning 83Mhz......

.... and it's still too slow for tinkers :D

.... but it should play higher quality MP3s without skipping.

Alternatively, get a socket 4 overdrive convertor that lets you run up to P133 in it. Then get a powerleap super 7 convertor that lets you put a K6 class CPU on it and has seperate power take off from drive connector, then stack those on top of each other, and fit a K6-3, K6-2+ or K6-3+ after using modbin to patch the BIOS for support, and you should have a blazing 400Mhz machine, 450 if you can hackthe PLL to 75Mhz, 500 if you can hack it to 83Mhz. THEN it will run tinkers, but take 2 weeks to finish a 70 pointer still. Maybe just maybe it will run gromacs too if you have a + and they ever implement 3Dnow+ support for anything other than Athlons in the client.

Alternatively #2 you could fill all the ISA slots with Powerleap renaissance ISA upgrades, hack them for tualatin support and have a 4 x 1.4Ghz folding farm in a P60 box. (P.S. the $2000 this would cost would buy 10 layers of XP foldage)

regards,

Road Warrior

[Bigdogbmx]

K

think actually gonna empty it out and use the case for my main rig. If I can find enouigh places to put case fans in anyways.