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IrelandMadMan
09-20-03, 05:40 AM
How r yas?

I f**ked up my xp2100 palomino tryin to unlock it , i wasnt to worried as ive planned to buy somethin better today !
Ive got an msi k7t266 pro2-u board and dont know 2 much about this sh*t , but i wanted to put a xp2500 or 2600 in it , what u think?
Ive also planned a new mobo soon , but for the minute i need my computer workin quick cause i had to borrow this one !
I think my current board only supports 133 and 266 fsb ( i think ), msi's website says the board supports a xp2600 133/266 .
So am i right in thinking that if i get a 2600 and its 333fsb it work work ? or can u set it up 2 work? Then i was told i needed to download the latest bios , how can i download it if i cant get my computer to turn on ( cause of the fu*ked 2100 ) ?
MMMM i dunno , please help !!!

Thanks very much for your help guys

shiyan
09-20-03, 09:20 PM
I'm not so sure it will work with 166FSB chips. I think the max fsb of the K7T266 Pro2U is 164Mhz.

First of all, are you possitive you have the version of K7T266 Pro2 that supports Thoroughbreds with 133fsb?

It you do, then all the Thoroughbreds up to 2600+ should run on it. Unfortunately, the 133fsb 2600+ is very rare. You'll find 133fsb 2400+ much more readily.

But if you can get something like a 2100+ for much lower price than a 2400+, then get that, as they overclock to roughly same speeds I think.

If your K7T266 Pro2 is an older version which does not officially support Thoroughbreds, then you'll have to do the hardware modification. It is really simple though, just have to solder off a tiny resistor the size of 1/4 grain of rice.

Go this this thread (http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=227141) for info on modifying older K7T266 Pro2 boards to accept Thoroughbred.

c627627
09-20-03, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by IrelandMadMan
How r yas?

I f**ked up my xp2100 palomino tryin to unlock it , i wasnt to worried as ive planned to buy somethin better today !
Ive got an msi k7t266 pro2-u board and dont know 2 much about this sh*t , but i wanted to put a xp2500 or 2600 in it , what u think?

We's all fine up in here. Sorry to hear about your fu*k up. This sh*t right here:
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/cpu_support/cpu/spt_cpu_list.php?kind=1&CHIP=Archives&ID=4
tells you Thoroughbred or Barton is out of the question for you, man.

Get a PCI locked nForce2 mobo bro. That is a fine mobo for what u want.

cherryp00t
09-21-03, 12:20 AM
indeed.. its time to upgrade your board =p

IrelandMadMan
09-21-03, 06:36 AM
Thanks for your help guys , ive just ordered a DFI Lanparty NF2 board and a nice xp2600 + some pc3200 memory , that should sort it out !!!!
Speak to yas soon

shiyan
09-21-03, 07:34 AM
oh well. I did get 2400+ to work happily on my K7T266 Pro2 though.

but that board is quite dated now I suppose.

c627627
09-21-03, 11:46 AM
1700+ T-Bred B or a 2500+ Barton would have been a way to go IrelandMadMan. Cancel and change your order if there's time and by doing so invest the $ you'll save in a good all copper heatsink or a quality name brand power supply.

2600+ will not overclock more than those two cheaper alternatives. It's only good if you're not going to overclock.

IrelandMadMan
09-21-03, 12:40 PM
I did try to order the xp2500 but they r out of stock , they seem to sell very well , the 2600 was only £10 more (retail version ) even though the fan that comes with it isnt meant to be great, but anyway I dont mind, iwill just upgrade that!
Whats the 2600 like for clockin?
And any comments on the board ? Its meant to be sweet , just hope it works as good as it looks :-)

Speak to yas soon

IrelandMadMan
09-21-03, 12:43 PM
Sorry i forgot to ask somethin, my power supply is an Eagle 350w , should that be ok for the minute ?

c627627
09-21-03, 12:49 PM
If it's a 2600+ Thoroughbred, you will not get very far with retail heatsink at all. It overclocks as far as the average 1700+ Thoroughbred.

If it's 2600+ Barton, they have better heatsinks for minor overclocking but not the kind you can do major overclocks on.

The mobo is a PCI locked nForce2 so it's not likely that it's going to be a source of any overclocking problem.

Did you order from a web site, we don't know what your choices were but it wouldn't have been too crazy if you threw a few options out for opinions before shelling out the cash...

Aeon Flux
09-21-03, 12:56 PM
You can get an XP2600 chip that does have 133mhz frontside bus. They made two versions of that chip. If you already have the other XP though you could try to underclock it and get it to work but thats not really worth it. Someone else mentioned get a 2100+ or something. They are good overclockers.

c627627
09-21-03, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by IrelandMadMan
Sorry i forgot to ask somethin, my power supply is an Eagle 350w , should that be ok for the minute ?
That's a $26 power supply in the US.
It may be a problem for major overclocks. There are worse power supplies but retail heatsink is your #1 problem now.

OEM CPU without a heatsink + an all copper heatsink purchased separately is what gets you overclocked.

I agree with Aeon Flux that 2100+ Thoroughbred B is an excellent overclocker. Got one meself.


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IrelandMadMan
09-21-03, 01:17 PM
I ordered my stuff from ctech2000.co.uk , shops were i live charge a fortune for computer gear , so i have to order from England , they had the best price on the lanparty board, but its a shame that they only stock retail cpu's , but i dont mind , makes it more costly ,but iwas happy with their prices !
Im not heavy into overclocking so will the Barton or Thoroughbred make much difference to me ? it doesnt say which type it is on their site , only the fact that its 333fsb.
I was gonna wait on them gettin the xp2500 into stock but this computer i am using is doin my head in, and i couldnt wait

cheers fellas

c627627
09-21-03, 01:17 PM
It's definitely a Thoroughbred B because 2600+ Bartons are only available in Japan now. Newsflash today, Sep 21, 2003, click here:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20030921082158.html

(Is your order locked in IrelandMadMan... try to change it if you can.)

IrelandMadMan
09-21-03, 01:28 PM
No i still have time to change ! what u think ? i should hold of for the 2500? and better cooler?

c627627
09-21-03, 02:02 PM
That's great news, so the ship hasn't sailed, the horse is not out of the barn?

All right, first off, where are you, where are you ordering from, web site or shop, what are the options.

The CPU should be 1700+ T-Bred B (must be B) or 2100+ B or 2500+ Barton. That would depend on how much $ is left over after buying other stuff like:
Heatsink? Can you get a Thermalright SK-7 and for how much, can you get another all copper heatsink and for how much?

What RAM are we using here?

How much for the nobo, how much are your other options for nForce2 mobos?

Getting another PSU is a maybe too, what can you get and for how much?

Only then go for the 2500+ Barton because all those other things will take your 1700+ Thoroughbred B (you know how to tell if it's a B, don't you?) higher than 2500+ Barton without buying a better heatsink etc.

List the options, we'll go on from there...

Note that 1800+ B or 2000+ B are also good if you're buying from a shop and can look at the codes since in the US, we can get guaranteed B's only for 1700+ (gameve.com) and 2100+ (newegg.com) without paying a guarantee premium.

IrelandMadMan
09-21-03, 03:15 PM
Ok right , well the website again is ctech2000.co.uk , i am in Ireland would ya believe !!
The Lanparty nforce2 is £110 , xp2500 is £70 ( retail version only ) 2600 is £80 , i want either of the 2 ,but they r out of stock for 2500's , also i had some 3200 memory ordered
Oh and i planned to order my cooler from ebuyer.co.uk ( very cheap )
Simple the 2500 or 2600? Since im not mad into overclocking ,should it matter?

I think i already wrote most this sh*t in a previous message?

IrelandMadMan
09-21-03, 03:22 PM
And the site ,doesnt give much information on their cpus , just the fsb , which is 333fsb of course, and price

c627627
09-21-03, 03:25 PM
I looked at the prices at your web site. 2500+ no question about it. They don't even have 1700+ and 2100+ is priced within 2 pounds of 2500+.

As for heatsinks, ask for UK web sites in a new thread. There's people here from UK, they'll tell you.

IrelandMadMan
09-21-03, 04:19 PM
I found the best place for the heatsinks ebuyer.co.uk , very nicely priced , im gonna order my uv lights and stuff of them also , uv fans and so on , the lanparty mobo is uv sensitive , should look good !!
I was thinkin of the coolermaster aero 7 to cool the bitch, got good reviews