Which cooler do you guys prefer!

[Mortdog]

Good evening...!

I´m using a SOrb with my 1 gig axia@1370 (171x8.5) default voltage.
44 C idle and about 50 C when playing.

I want to buy a better air solution and gain less noise.

I have heard that Noisecontrol Silverado and Thermoengine newest one are good coolers. Do you think they will cool better than the SuperOrb which in my opinion is quiet hard to mount. The core only contact the edge of the metal on the sorb.

[TT120]

Pretty much any of those new high end HSF's will do better than the Orb cooler will. Those Orb's dont really handle the high end Athlon's.

[Mortdog]

When you mention the new ones I kind of think of: ThermoEngine V60-4210 or TaiSol CGK 760092 Copper Base

Which one would you prefer? They go for the same price

[Len]

I'm trying to decide on my first cooler for an overclocked Tbird 1Ghz. I have the same requirements ... good performance and low noise. I'll also add reasonable cost and a good mounting clip design as additional requirements for me. That eliminates the NoiseControl Silverado which is over $50 easily and I don't even think you can buy it in the US (someone correct me if I'm wrong about this).

If you want to avoid noise like me then stay away from the very popular Delta 7000 rpm 38cfm fan. Unfortunately this limits your choices somewhat since this seems to be a favorite fan to use these days because of its high performance despite its high noise level.

I'm still researching but I believe these coolers might meet our requirements for good performance and low noise. I'm not sure about the cost or clip design on these as I haven't gotten that far into my research yet.

- Thermalake Volcano II (my favority so far)
- Taisol CGK742092
- Thermosonic Thermoengine
- Alpha PEP66
- Alpha PAL6035
- Global Win WBK32
- Global Win FOP32

Just a warning ... sometimes these same heatsinks will be sold with different fans like the Delta 7000 rpm. Some vendors will offer you a choice of the fan you want. Just be careful you know exactly which fan you are getting.

[Mortdog]

Len:

You should really check out this one TaiSol CGK 760092 Copper Base. Better perfomance. Hm. I´m a little alergic to Thermaltake because I think they build toys. Cool products but not very good.

There is one way Len that you forgot about when mention the Delta 7000 rpm.
You can use an 80 => 60 mm adapter. With this you can connect a 80 mm fan with good air output. This results in lower noise than a fast 60 mm and better air output.

[Len]

Mortdog, I'll check out the TaiSol CGK 760092 if I can find a review for it. Why does TaiSol have to use such strange number names? Last time I checked the 60-80mm converters were expensive. I'd like to keep the cost around $30 if possible.

Also, if anyone can recommend some reputable online stores that have reasonable prices on these cooler, it would be appreciated.

[cntw82oc]

i've heard the taisol is a good combo...but i use the alpha pep66 and it lowered my temps about 10 degrees celsius over my old Sorb.

[Hoot]

You can adapt an 80mm to the Taisol without buying a step-down adapter since the Taisol is 80mm wide. The CGK-760092 is an excellent choice.

Hoot

[TranceBear]

My new Vantec (model # below) came with a 38cfm Delta fan stock!! $20 from CrazyPC.com and this thing cools nice. Never gets over 47c under load as of yet. It is still new so the future temps may vary.

[Megahurtz]

I'm still using an FOP-38-1...waiting for the Millenium Thermal Solutions Glaciator to arrive.

I'm not in a hurry. I have a few systems to play with at present.

If you don't want the Delta's noise, you need to be a little more creative. I agree with Hoot regarding the Tai-Sol. You'll need to apply a more robust fan, but it is perhaps your best option.

T

[SleepyKat]

you may get more replys if you post this in the cooling forum...

[Oni]

I still like my GW FOP-38. It cools really nice, and I'm used to the noise. Eventually, I'm gunna get a nice Sunon to put on top of it to get rid of the noise. Right now my chip runs about 42c at idle, and rarely over 45c load. With a high-performance Sunon, those temps might go down. The only thing that I don't like about the mounting clip over say, a Volcano II, is that it kills the thumbs and requires ungodly amounts of pressure to clip on. The mounting clip was the only thing that I really liked about my Volcano II: you could use a screwdriver to get it on. No thumb-killing! :)

But I must say that I'm happy with the cooling performance of this hsf. If noise bothers you, go w/ an FOP-32. It dosn't cool quite as well, but the noise is signifigantly reduced.

[Len]

Oni, how was the cooling performance of the Volcano II? Good enough for an overclocked Tbird at 1200+? How did it compare to the FOP32 and FOP38 for cooling performance?

I'm thinking of buying the Volcano II for a 1.2 Tbird I plan to overclock to 1.3-1.4. I like the lower noise level and the good clip design. Its inexpensive too. So, as long as it cools relatively well I'll buy it.

[Mortdog]

Guys. After 4 months with my Sorb I managed to mount it right:). I turned it 180 degrees and hey. The core is in the middle of the heatsink:). The temp dropped 4-5 degrees:)
1000>1370 mhz. 40 C idle and 45 C when playing. That is pretty good I think. But I still don´t like the sound of the sorb.

The problem is that it seems that I cant get the F***er stable above 1.4 ghz. Maybe I should add the last 5 % to the VIO.
hmmmm....

thanks for the advices.

I think I go for the Taisol 790062

[asmodean]

Those fan adapters have also a downside. The centre of the fan is bigger with 80mm fans, so that'll leave a hotspot, right where the core is located. So, switching from a 60mm 38cfm Delta to a 80mm 42,5cfm Sunon might actually rise the temps.

[Mortdog]

Would71

I don´t know where you live guys but I guess for what I´ve seen that most of you live in the us or uk.

As for me, I live in sweden. We have a nice site called www.kylning.com
they specialize selling cooling equipment. The adapter cost about 120 SEK which is about 12 us $. Maybe you should try to make order from them. Some products are manufactured in europe and I guess the are cheaper here because of toll and other factors.

[asmodean]

HardOCP just did a review on a fanadapter, I noticed. Also checked it out. You people should too.

[proze]

Len (May 29, 2001 09:44 p.m.):
Oni, how was the cooling performance of the Volcano II? Good enough for an overclocked Tbird at 1200+? How did it compare to the FOP32 and FOP38 for cooling performance?

I'm thinking of buying the Volcano II for a 1.2 Tbird I plan to overclock to 1.3-1.4. I like the lower noise level and the good clip design. Its inexpensive too. So, as long as it cools relatively well I'll buy it.

a volcano with the stock fan would really struggle with a high-end tbird... needs a delta to be competetive, but that's exactly what you seem to be trying to avoid.

as for other choices, i'm very happy with my pal6035, but there are better sinks out there now. the copper-bottomed taisol looks great, as does the millenium glaciator copper (when it comes out). have a look in the cooling board and on the main page for cooler info and reviews.

hope you find what you're after.. :)

[diehrd]

The thermalake IS JUNK,,If it is the heat sink that has holes machined in it,,It was tested on a stock 1.2 durring internet surfing and had temps that were high in my opnion it is all show no go like a chrome valve cover on a car engine LOL !!!!!!!GO SWIFTECH MC462 for any high gig athlon

[proze]

no need to go with the $80 or $90 swiftech now!! read joe's review of the glaciator on the frontpage! and all for about $30! sweet...

[toomnymods]

After reading thru all this I'm amazed it took this long to mention the Swiftech 462b.. It by far can't be matched in performance for aircooling. My idle temps are 87f and playing quake 3 for 20-30 min it only get's up to 92f!!! I'f you ask me why pay 30 bucks for sumthing that is only gonna shave 4-5 degrees off what a stock cooler does, go for the bigguns, and drop 25-35 degrees..
System specs:
Asus A7m266
Amd 1.33ghz Axia week 11 w/ 266fsb
Swiftech 462b cooler
512mb pc2100 ddrsdram
Windows 2k w/ Sp2 installed
Ls-120 Superdisk
Kenwood 72x cd-rom
Yamaha 16x10x40 cd-rw
Soundblaster Live Platinum 5.1

[proze]

have you read the glaciator article? not even the swiftechs got c/ws like that!

[Vovan]

Why do you think so about Tt?
my Sorb, yeah, temperatured until I X-marked down of the surface with thermalpaste for better cooling and several times placed-removed it from CPU making the correct shape of the paste allign. Now temps are 31-idle 47-49 high work(wolfenstein 3d 16-bit dumb code that loads CPU all the way, it is even worse than Q3). Room temps - 29 So.....

[asmodean]

Vovan (Jun 01, 2001 01:48 a.m.):
Why do you think so about Tt?
my Sorb, yeah, temperatured until I X-marked down of the surface with thermalpaste for better cooling and several times placed-removed it from CPU making the correct shape of the paste allign. Now temps are 31-idle 47-49 high work(wolfenstein 3d 16-bit dumb code that loads CPU all the way, it is even worse than Q3). Room temps - 29 So.....

Try using that sorb with a 1.33g tbird oc'd to 1.5g... You'll get load temps somewhere around 70C. Not for high-end CPUs.

That Glaciator will propably be the best HSF for a long time, IMHO.