View Full Version : 1800+ Niuhb Dlt3c 0334wpmw
Just opened the retail box from Newegg. Will post quickie results shortly.
Posts up to 2300 on stock vcore. Loading windows at 2400 1.75vcore now...
OC-Master
09-26-03, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by Lithan
Posts up to 2300 on stock vcore. Loading windows at 2400 1.75vcore now...
Holy Crow!!
2300MHz from 1.50v stock LOL.. All I can say is get to 2500MHz and see if you can successfully do 24 hours of prime at 1.75v or less :D
Molester
09-26-03, 09:47 AM
yes, but is it stable, and is that stepping in the title correct
"N"iuhb dlt3c
if so, seems to be doing well, and we've heard(from OCmaster) about a ji"X"hb dlt3c, and those are supposed to be awesome
so, you think there's a "N"i"X"hb dlt3c??, lol
Yes it's NIUHB. It isn't stable at 2500 1.75v Crashes first test of prime (though It runs windows fine, so I'd bet it's "illusionary-stable" by which I mean never crashes in use, but prime finds it out) I'm at 2400mhz 1.75v now. Running prime. This is half an hour after I opened the box. (This is on sk-7/sf2, a7n8x-dlx, and Allied 400watt. My main rig would take it a little farther, but would need more vcore as the nf7-s undervolts from .05-.1v
Im on about test 20 now by the way. Eventually I will put this in my main rig and burn it in.
Edit: On the 896 tests now.
about 1.5hours in and still a rock at 2400 1.75v. Gonna move it to my nf7-s soon and see what it can do there.
cherryp00t
09-26-03, 11:14 AM
dang thats a awesome chip ;d guess the 1800+ are the ones to get at newegg now seeing as how all the 1700+ are As
Oh i wouldn't say it's the chip to get... I mean it will only do 2.6ghz at 1.85v. That's not very good, is it? :p I got into windows and ran prime for 1 minute at 1.90v 2650, but stopped it and decided to burn in instead. I'll start the overclocking tonight. Looks like 2.6-2.7 will be where this chip ends up... couldn't even load windows at 2.7ghz, 1.9v... so I'm thinking that's about where it hits a wall that takes 2+vcore and top notch cooling to get over.
Looks like a great chip, and I'm not seeing any of the problems with high voltages alot of people reported about the early 1700+ DLT3C's.
cherryp00t
09-26-03, 01:48 PM
nice chip.. what kinda cooling was it on for you to get 2.65 ghz and was this an oem chip or retail chip from newegg? =p
So 1800+ 2500+ or 1700+.. and is this with stock hsf?
1800+ And christ no. This is midrange water (maze-3, mag3, chevette 86)
Retail.
Also, the title of this thread and the first post answered 2/3 of those questions.
brennan77
09-26-03, 02:00 PM
Holy moly! I was just thinking I wanted to burn up my chip so I could have an excuse to look for another "super chip". :)
There's a computer show coming up in a month. I'm holding tight till then to see what happens.
cherryp00t
09-26-03, 02:07 PM
opps sorry about that haha. Just saw the stepping and immediatly looked for the OC. Totally skipped the retail part =X haha
its the OC thats in me.. miss the obvious and go for the gusto =p
It's no problem. So long as I can get 2800mhz on water out of this chip I won't have to kill you. :p
Woot! It's stable at 500mhz 1.95v... wait... I better let it prime a few more hours to be sure. ;)
Ohh, Hmm Im so should i get a 1800+? Im building my first rig.. I know this isnt the place to ask but since you guys are here might as well. Sorry for intrurpting this thread. Didnt want to spam and make another one.
-AMD processor
-ABIT NF-7 S rev 2
-Dont know ram need help on that
-Slk 800?
Thats about it so far.. Ill find a case and crap just need help on the setup with hardware.
Thx in advance
Just shoot
09-26-03, 02:25 PM
Congrats on the chip and the OC WOW. I recently got one of the new retail chips from newegg, but its a JIXIB DLT3C . Presently at 2.6 gigs at 1.85 volts and rising prime stable. Water cooled of course, with homemade water block.
Once you get burnt in alittle more see if you hit a wall around 2700, I've got mine to that but it took a few days of burning and 2.05 volts. I just couldn't bring my self to keep it there when its prime stable at 2.6. Keep us informed will ya and thanks for sharing the great news.
edit... mine will make windows at 2850 but crashes with anything other than surfing the web. If the wind blows real hard its enough to crash it.
Tyranos
09-26-03, 02:36 PM
That one sounds like my 1700. 2.3 on stock v, 1.75 for 2420mhz. 1.95 for 2.5
cherryp00t
09-26-03, 02:44 PM
Booo......... you should invest more in your WC setup >> Cascade SS so i can live =P
Mem you should really start your own thread hehe ppl dont like thread jackers ;x But uhh For Ram it really depends on your budget.. if you have alot of money go for Mushkin level2 black pc3500 if you wanna keep it as low as possible the buffalo PC3500 on newegg is a good choice too...
good choice on heatsink.. get a smart Fan 2 for that heatsink
Alright here?.. SOrry about that Im new lol, Ill just make one here and get it moved it if it needs to be?
I actually don't really care much Mem, though it would probably get you more answers if you made your own thread.
Looks like it's stuck right around 2.6ghz. (2606mhz, 1.89-1.94vcore). Wont post at 2750 even at 2v. Wont load windows at 2700 at 2v either. Seems like a REAL hard cap at 2700... Might be heat-related, as I installed the block very poorly and am getting temps 5-7 degrees higher than I did on my old chip, where I think I should only be 2-3 degrees higher. Either way, socket is reading 55*C at full load. Bear in mind this is in a 30*C room, but still 25*C over ambient is high for my cooling. I will likely have a go at remounting it outside of the case, as I had to work with some very rigid tubing which probably made the block mount quite poorly.
percadann
09-26-03, 11:33 PM
you bought that at new egg? when did you recieve it? thinking about trying to get either the JIXHB or the NIXHB doesnt mater wich one i hear good things about both. seems new egg has been selling these as of late? this is the retail one for 56 bucks right? been trying to pin down the place selling these steppings and it seems to be new egg so far passing these out? be my luck id get an old JIUHB and not one of them new steppings... oh well may as well try right? worse case senerio.. ill have another 2400mhz cpu to add to my already too big collection!
thx man. perc,
Ok,now this is getting annoying. READ THE FIRST POST! It is only ONE line long for god's sake.
cherryp00t
09-27-03, 02:13 AM
lol poor lithan.. i think you should edit your first post in big red letters ;x
percadann
09-27-03, 05:25 AM
Originally posted by Lithan
Ok,now this is getting annoying. READ THE FIRST POST! It is only ONE line long for god's sake.
i did read the post. so what did i say that made you have to prove what a over zelious asss hole you really are? what you cant answer a simple question? all i said was "so you bought that at new egg?" just asking for a confirmation so i can try and find one thats all nothing that requires you to actualy use your brain there pal...
thx for nothing.... perc,
Just shoot
09-27-03, 06:59 AM
Originally posted by Lithan
I actually don't really care much Mem, though it would probably get you more answers if you made your own thread.
Looks like it's stuck right around 2.6ghz. (2606mhz, 1.89-1.94vcore). Wont post at 2750 even at 2v. Wont load windows at 2700 at 2v either. Seems like a REAL hard cap at 2700... Might be heat-related, as I installed the block very poorly and am getting temps 5-7 degrees higher than I did on my old chip, where I think I should only be 2-3 degrees higher. Either way, socket is reading 55*C at full load. Bear in mind this is in a 30*C room, but still 25*C over ambient is high for my cooling. I will likely have a go at remounting it outside of the case, as I had to work with some very rigid tubing which probably made the block mount quite poorly.
Don't give up just yet, mine wouldn't either give it a couple more days of burning then try again.
Errored after 4 hours in prime at 2606 2.0v (1.89-1.94v)Gonna try to burn in some more. My voltage might have dipped below 1.89 which made it crash, but I stupidly closed mbm5 (and I don't log) before I checked high/low.
It's stable at least 5 minutes at 2530 with only 1.775v... which I translate as meaning that right around 2550 is where this chip starts needing tons of voltage to see gains. I don't believe burning in helps that aspect of overclocking.
Anyhow, I'm pretty sure it can do it at 2.03, but my temps are already horrible, so until I remount, I wouldn't run that anyway.
Confirmation? It says pretty plainly that it was a retail box from newegg, don't know how anyone could misunderstand that.
Just shoot
09-27-03, 09:44 AM
What temps did ya hit at 2 volts and what was ambient? I've got my system in the garage at the moment so my numbers are pretty skewed. At the moment ambient is 59'f and full load under prime is 82'f at 1.9 volts which gives 1.85 vcore through MBM at 2594.. Heres a pic of what these chips are capable of if you can get that vcore stable and bring down the temps. I ran it at this for about 3 hours last night then turned back to above speeds.
http://webpages.charter.net/justshoot/pics/jixib1_85_2673.jpg
percadann
09-27-03, 10:00 AM
Confirmation? It says pretty plainly that it was a retail box from newegg, don't know how anyone could misunderstand that.
its all good man. i just wanted to ask a few questions about the chip? i already knew you bought it from mew egg maybe i should not of put the question mark after " you bought this at new egg" kinda made it look like i was asking you instead of telling you. anyways man not worth stretching this out any farther. id rather listen to what your saying and learn somthing so... peace.
perc,
Yeah sorry about jumping on you, but About 3 people have asked if it was retail so far, when the very first sentence I posted said it was retail box. It gets on my nerves after awhile.
Ambient was 84*F (28.5*C) Socket (diode against cpu back) was 131*F (55*C) Load. Cpu Diode reader was about 3*C higher.
What's your motherboard and cooling rig (Link to internal shots of block?) Just shoot? Cause I doubt I can get that c/w even with my best mounting.
Just shoot
09-27-03, 11:31 AM
My MOBO is nfs-s ver 2. Water rig is via aqua 1300, chevy heater core, and Homemade water block. The block basic design is a micro channel the same principle design as the EVO or White Water. Not saying mine is close to a white water in C\W but I'm getting there. I essentially took a 2x3 x1/4 block of copper and machined .0625 slots spaced .0625" in the 3" direction .190" deep. I continued this until I had slots all the way across the 2" direction 1/2 on all sides. Then I took a 1/8 piece of copper stock 2x3 and machined the three grooves one in the center (inlet) and then two on the edges (outlet). Of course I had to make a top fore my 1/2 barbs then sandwiched it all together. I will be taking it back apart in the near future I will take some close up picks and send them to ya. It works pretty darn good I'm happy with it.
Have you tried placing a fan over the mosfets and the SB It helped me considerably
Mosfets have active cooling (sinks and a 92mm fan mounted on the rear bracket), and SB has a passive heatsink that is only slightly warm to the touch. Northbridge has an all copper heatsink with an ~20cfm fan.
What tools did you use to make the block?
Just shoot
09-27-03, 04:00 PM
Bridge port with 3/16 end mill and saw bit for making the micro channels
http://www.nvtools.com/files/bridge_port_series_1_mill.htm
That sucker? If so... wow, how'ed ya get your hands on one?
Burnt in for about 24-30hrs total now at 1.90-1.98v (set to 1.95, 2.0, and 2.03).... trying 2606 at 2v (1.87v-1.95v) again. If I can get it stable here, then I'll try 12x220 (220 is this boards max FSB), though I wouldn't hold much hope out for anything much above 2600 if that... as3 set in and I'm only 24*C above ambient, but I think that this chip puts out a TON of wattage at high voltages like this... so, even with a quality mount, 20*C above looks like it may be my cooling rigs cap. Anyhow, temps might be holding me back, but I'd guess that this chip just likes 2500-2600 range. Once I get my max stable speed, I'll likely drop the voltage back a bit and take 2.5something ghz.
Well, with AC cranked I ran prime and folding 11 hours now and no errors 220x12=2606 @2.0v(1.87-1.95). Temps hit 51*C according to MBM... diode readings should be about 3-4*C higher than that.
I got a stable 2.6ghz. Woot.
Edit: My mistake 217x12... 220x12 wasn't stable. I'm dropping vcore to 1.95v and trying again now.
windwind
09-28-03, 12:49 PM
Same here, my 1800+ won't load windows at 2.7GHz even at 2.0V. And I don't want to kill it with 2.0V+ voltage....
I own a midrange watercool too (maze4, maze4gpu, heatercore, eheim 1048).
It has no problem running benchmarks at 2.6GHz 1.95V, and completely prime95 stable at 2.5GHz 1.85V. Just for fun I ran it at 2.4GHz and found that it now only needed 1.7V vs 1.75V when with aircool.
Seems our DLT3C all hit the wall at 2.7GHz. For now I just stick with 2.5GHz/1.85V. WHen the winter comes I might try higher though.
Just shoot
09-28-03, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by Lithan
http://www.nvtools.com/files/bridge_port_series_1_mill.htm
That sucker? If so... wow, how'ed ya get your hands on one?
Burnt in for about 24-30hrs total now at 1.90-1.98v (set to 1.95, 2.0, and 2.03).... trying 2606 at 2v (1.87v-1.95v) again. If I can get it stable here, then I'll try 12x220 (220 is this boards max FSB), though I wouldn't hold much hope out for anything much above 2600 if that... as3 set in and I'm only 24*C above ambient, but I think that this chip puts out a TON of wattage at high voltages like this... so, even with a quality mount, 20*C above looks like it may be my cooling rigs cap. Anyhow, temps might be holding me back, but I'd guess that this chip just likes 2500-2600 range. Once I get my max stable speed, I'll likely drop the voltage back a bit and take 2.5something ghz.
Yep thats it, I personally don't have one, but I have unlimited access to it at work. Basically when I built my block I made several center sections and did a test session to tune it to my setup. It took almost a week of trial and error before getting it right. It wouldn't be that easy with a maze block other than regulating flow rates, which you could do depending on pump.
I've finally started working on phase change setup again hopefully I should have it done and ready for testing later in the week or early next. I've found if I can keep temps below 18'c (ice water) 2750 220x12.5 is prime stable untill CPU temps rise. I had windows at 2925 225x13 not stressed, so I think there is alot of head room left in these buggers with extreme cooling.
Yeah... Personally I think my 4*C temp drop did more to help than burning in. Im at 2606 1.93v now. temps down to 48*C load.
Edit: Running 12x217=2606@ 1.90v (1.81-1.86v) now. It BSOD's as soon as I start prime95 when set to 1.875v. I'm running 21*C above ambient at full load (socket reading) right now.
And can I ask what you do?
Errored after 31minutes at 1.90v at 1.93v now.
v8vega350
09-28-03, 02:56 PM
i just put an order in to newegg fri for a retait 1800 and ill see what i get i hope it is one of these super chips
Well, If I can get it prime stable at 2606 at 1.95v or under (About 1.84-1.90v actual) Then I will keep it there... If not, I'll do 2.5something.
Just shoot
09-28-03, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by Lithan
Yeah... Personally I think my 4*C temp drop did more to help than burning in. Im at 2606 1.93v now. temps down to 48*C load.
Edit: Running 12x217=2606@ 1.90v (1.81-1.86v) now. It BSOD's as soon as I start prime95 when set to 1.875v. I'm running 21*C above ambient at full load (socket reading) right now.
And can I ask what you do?
I'm a Controls Engineer for a little snack food manufacturer
Wow... those are some heavy friggin snacks if they need that thing to shape them ;)
Screenshot time...
http://home.comcast.net/~iasa9/2606.jpg
This is stable for 3 hrs of prime so far at 1.93v (1.81-1.89v actual) and temps between 48 and 55*C load in a 77-87*F room.
Crashed at 1.93v (lately prime95 has taken to getting program errors rather than calculation errors (those little boxes that pop up saying that windows must close prime 95))... im 99.9% sure it will be stable at 1.95v though. At 1.95v my vcore stabalizes quite a bit. Becomes 1.85-1.925, up from 1.81-1.89. Temps only go up 1*C full load though, luckily.
Col_Loki
09-29-03, 06:48 AM
Hey , Nice overclock thats lookin very impressive!!
I got a couple of them "prime95 has generated errors and will be closed by windows" , its prob very close to being stable. What cooling are you using (sorry if its posted further back) ??
Over a 1000mhz overclock :eek:, god damm thats sweet!!
I'm running water; Maze 3 (soon to be cascade... and if I ever get the time, maybe a homemade block), mag 3, and chevette.
It's stable overnight on 1.95v... Good enough for me. Now I've got to start trying to get ram timings down, rebuild the system and move on to my 2.4c.
makes me want to move to the US just to be able to order from Newegg.:p
man, I could have bought 2 of these for what I paid for my average 2400+.
Of course... these were just released... I'll bet you got your 2400+ awhile ago.
well, I got it about 3 weeks ago for 110 Euros.
it was simply impossible for find any low voltage TbredBs.
there are 2500+ about. They cost only a little more than 2400+.
But at the time I was trying to get an upgrade chip for my KT266A based MSI K7T266 Pro2, and I did not think I could get Bartons to work on that even after doing the modification to the board.
of course since then, my mom's K7T266 Pro died, so I replaced it with my K7T266 Pro2, and got myself a NF7-S.
Testing it at 1543mhz (220.5x7) 1.2v (1.1v won't load windows... didn't try anything in between) right now. Socket temp is 9*C above board temp at full load.
edit: Trying 1.175v now
Hughhefner
09-30-03, 03:44 PM
Just received today 2 XP 1800's from NEWEGG . Retail box,
NIUHB DLT3C 0334
Order 3 more yesterday, looks like they STILL have them, grab em while they're hot
Limit of 5 !!!!!!
percadann
09-30-03, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by Hughhefner
Just received today 2 XP 1800's from NEWEGG . Retail box,
NIUHB DLT3C 0334
Order 3 more yesterday, looks like they STILL have them, grab em while they're hot
Limit of 5 !!!!!!
DUDE... save some for me :D the JIXHB and the NIUHB and the JIXIB's hmm thats three new steppings ive heard come from new egg in the last two weeks?.... so far the JIXHB seem to be getting the best results. im ordering mine friday may as well get two or three it looks like they are going to go quik at this rate! please anyone who has already gotten these lets see results!
peace perc,
It is stable at 1543 @ 1.175v 1.14-1.17v actual.
Just shoot
09-30-03, 07:22 PM
I couldn't help my self I had to order another xp1800 with another nf7-s (refurb) hopes for another rev 2 with full box.
Hughhefner
09-30-03, 09:51 PM
So far running well at 2426 210X11.5 with 129 deg temps with an Epox 8RDA3+, Thermalright SLK900A clip on with Artic ceramique, 1.75V
TT sm2 with thermaltake ductmod
Just seems a bit HOT
OH yes, LITHAN's Kreton ram at 210 5,2,2 at 2.77V
Yeah these chips are hot little buggers. I get about the same temps with a .4v undervolt as I do at stock on my JIUHB DUT3C.
OC Detective
10-01-03, 03:03 AM
You would expect that due to the lower default vcore meaning a lower threshold voltage and therefore higher leakage current.
Just shoot
10-06-03, 06:49 AM
Lithan, you've had this bugger for awhile now what have you gotten stable at 24/7. I'm at 2573 pretty much it for day to day, it will take anything I through at it, I'm pretty happy with a 1000 MHZ oc
Originally posted by Lithan
, but would need more vcore as the nf7-s undervolts from .05-.1v
on topic: i've been eyeing those chips at newegg for the past week...
off topic: are you sure the nf7 undervolts vcore? did you test it with a multi? i thought all the overvolting/undervolting claims had been trounced by a few that did actual tests...
back on topic: i tried getting a thread going (but in the wrong forum) regarding t-breds people have been getting from newegg lately- trying to get an idea what people are getting, and no replies. i may have to just chance it and grab one while their still in stock...
Yes, Im sure. I don't need a multi test. My overclocks from board to board are obviously linked to minimum actual voltage as read by the boards. I've seen this correlation time and time again. Enough to realize that either the boards I have used all have accurate vcore readings or else all are inaccurate in the exact same way and amount. My other cpu did 2400 on 8rda, soltek board (damned if I remember what these things are called SLNFRBLAHBLAHBLAH), a7n8x-dlx, and nf7-s. and at all times required a voltage that gave between 1.85v and 1.87v minimum vcore... though the voltage was set at a different amount on nearly every board.
I've got heatsinks on my fets, so there wont be any multi testing for me I'm afraid.
And yeah. It's 24/7 at 2606. Im at 2006 for the time being because I'm too lazy to change it back right now.
amdking
10-06-03, 01:21 PM
yo lithan do u have the full stepping code anywhere but on the CPU....just wondering cuz
I got 3 of these NIUHB's at my store and I wanna test them out.
I would like to know ur numbers tho first =)
Thanks...
Just the cpu. I might find time to swap cooling on it tomorrow though, and I'll post the whole thing.
AXDA1800DLT3C T597666(ANTICHRIST CPU!!!!)261642
NIUHB 0334WPMW
With a L12 mod I've gotten my nf7-s stable at 240FSB with ram timings 8-4-4-3.0 I've got to drop to 230 to get 6-3-3-2.5 and 225 to get 5-2-2-2.0
Gonna do a few tests and see which is the best performance.
Hughhefner
10-07-03, 02:47 PM
Well the NEXT 5 from NEWEGG have finally arrived, and they are all the same
0334 NIUHB DLT3C
THey STIll have them folks, grab em while they're hot
Under cascade, it looks like 2650mhz at around 2.0v set (haven't checked actual) may be possible.
Edit: Errors after 30 minutes. Dollars to donuts says it's stable at 2.03... but I'm happier at 1.95v... it did me well on my DUT3C to get 2.4... and does this DLT3C to 2.6. That's enough for me... though I will try and tweak a little under 1.95v... maybe try and get 2625 1.95v. Hmmm... I wonder what DC cas 2.5 I can do... Hopefully, 227-230ish... that should do nicely at x11.5. Once I've got this rig nice and happy... I have to decide if 200 more mhz on my 2.4c is worth buying a new Motherboard for. Probably not... I am looking forward to turning that sf2 down a little... which might be possible at 3.2... not a chance at 3.4. Might even put a near silent 92mm I got out of a PSU in there and see how high I can get it at safe temps.
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