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ricksimm
09-26-03, 11:51 AM
Are there any true sata drives other than the Seagate and do any of the current crop of mobos with on-board sata controllers support true sata functions such as command queing? Thanks.

stan03
09-26-03, 09:28 PM
ummm maxtor wd raptor etc....

Sonny
09-26-03, 09:33 PM
AFAIK the WD Raptors are the only true SATA drives along with the Seagate 7200.7+ drives.

Deathknight
09-26-03, 09:46 PM
Love my raptor :cool:

R.Rabbit
09-27-03, 12:05 AM
actually i read over at storage review that raptors are actually ide but with a built in ide to sata chip, but they still kick ass!

Sonny
09-27-03, 12:36 AM
Really? Well my mistake then:beer:

spclwpns
09-27-03, 10:17 AM
Ya, you can 'see' conversion all over the Raptor (prolly why the next will be so much faster), whereas with the Seagate there is no hint of that scourge IDE ;)

MRip
09-27-03, 02:42 PM
Anybody know when the new raptor will be available?

mateo
09-27-03, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by spclwpns
Ya, you can 'see' conversion all over the Raptor (prolly why the next will be so much faster), whereas with the Seagate there is no hint of that scourge IDE ;)

SATA is IDE ;)

IMHO all that really matters is the end performance. Storage Review has some nice benchies for a whole bunch of different applications; that should be a deciding factor, if any.

XWRed1
09-27-03, 09:01 PM
I think it is funny when people go on about true sata this and that, since sata is just ide. Who cares what specific controller is on either end of the wire as long as it is an sata wire. If the drive and controller combo is new enough to support some of the features scsi has enjoyed for years, even better.

Sonny
09-27-03, 09:12 PM
I think you guys are missing the point about True SATA, a lot of the SATA Drives in the market are just PATA Drives with built in converters. We were not talking about SATA being different from IDE. You care what the interface is when your looking for certain features that are not possible with a converter like the rev 2 of the WD Raptors which should be True SATA.

Gnufsh
09-27-03, 09:23 PM
Interestingly, the new Raptors will still use an onboard PATA-to-SATA bridge disdained by many enthusiasts.

from storagereview.com

so the new Raptors will not be pure SATA.

XWRed1
09-28-03, 02:15 AM
I happened to just check, all of the ibm deskstars for the last few years have supported Tagged Command Queueing, so that particular feature isn't dependent on being "true sata" or not, or even being over an sata interface at all.