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!-=sky=-!
06-06-01, 03:54 AM
since i can't post in the amd motherboard section so i will post here instead

what's wrong with this? is it error or true?
a7v with a kt133a chip and able to do 133+ fsb

!-=sky=-!
06-06-01, 09:57 AM
can someone just read this?

AMDGuy
06-06-01, 10:04 AM
Maybe I'm misunderstanding the question, but a KT133A will do 133 (+ if you're lucky). Are you saying yours won't do 133? If not then set it to 133 in the BIOS. They come at 100 by default.

!-=sky=-!
06-06-01, 10:11 AM
i m saying that how come my asus a7v have kt133a chip?
isn't the a7v supposed to have kt133 chip only?

Rob Cork
06-06-01, 11:35 AM
Dunno what's up with yours, but here's what my A7v has according to the same version of WCPUID (KT133 as it should):

!-=sky=-!
06-07-01, 03:57 AM
someone else have this problem?

Sketch
06-07-01, 04:21 PM
maybe I'm wrong here, but I thought the a7v has the KT133 chipset with the 686a south bridge chip which is the first version and the kt133a are the 686b south bridge chip. I could be wrong and havn't looked into it but I could almost swear. Looks like your showing the right chipset for that board to me. And I doubt it will hit 133. But that is just a shot in the dark after doing no research prior to posting. :0

!-=sky=-!
06-07-01, 06:20 PM
that's waht i am saying, how can a7v orginal have kt133a chip

Sketch
06-07-01, 06:35 PM
~(-=->sky<-=-)~ (Jun 07, 2001 06:20 p.m.):
that's waht i am saying, how can a7v orginal have kt133a chip

it doesn't. the 686a south bridge is the kt133 chipset, not the kt133a, as far as i know

!-=sky=-!
06-09-01, 08:13 AM
but how come my a7b have kt133a chip displayed in wcpuid

Da Whip
06-09-01, 08:30 AM
Try running Siosoft Sandra and see what that tells you.
http://www.sisoftware.demon.co.uk/san_dem/html/dload.htm

Hoot
06-09-01, 08:37 AM
According to the ASUS Web site (a good place to check), the A7V is based upon the KT-133 VIA chipset and is spec'd for 100 Mhz FSB. No mystery there.

Hoot

!-=sky=-!
06-09-01, 09:01 AM
here is the screenshot
it says kt 133

but how come my kt133 can do 133fsb no problem/
isn't only the kt133a can do that? i heard from many post kt133 can only do max 110fsb or somethng like that
plz help

Tomas
06-09-01, 10:31 AM
~(-=->sky<-=-)~ (Jun 09, 2001 09:01 a.m.):
here is the screenshot
it says kt 133

but how come my kt133 can do 133fsb no problem/
isn't only the kt133a can do that? i heard from many post kt133 can only do max 110fsb or somethng like that
plz help
arent u happy?? i would be happy if i had an a7v with an kt133a chip :)

Hoot
06-09-01, 11:55 AM
On my Abit KT7A, Sandra says it is a KT-133 also. I know it has a KT-133A chipset. It is a shortcoming in Sandra. The only way to put your question to rest is to remove the Northbridge cooler and visually inspect the chip. Tomas is right. "Don't look a gift horse in the mouth." ;D

Hoot

!-=sky=-!
06-09-01, 10:04 PM
i would do that later, but how to take off the heat sink
do i have to remove the mobo itself?

Hoot
06-09-01, 10:12 PM
I'm not familiar enough with the A7V to know how the Northbridge cooler is affixed to it. Any A7V owners out there? Wade in at any time.

Hoot

!-=sky=-!
06-09-01, 10:30 PM
i see a green cooler on top of the northbridge and two white plastic tabs that fix the cooler onto the bridge, i also noticed that the heatsink is not held with pressure, i mean like it was loose and i can move it a little

Hoot
06-10-01, 12:03 AM
the one on my KT7A was loose also. Isn't that just sad! Mine had retainer pins, but I bet you can position those tabs so that you can remove it. I took mine off, lapped it, applied AS2 and remounted it more firmly upon the northbridge. It runs cool to the touch, even with an FSB of 150 and Vi/o of 3.57.

I can't believe there is no one reading this who has not removed the northbridge heatsink on an A7V. I'm genuinely surprised you have not had any replies from those who can speak from experience.

Hoot

proze
06-10-01, 01:00 AM
~(-=->sky<-=-)~ (Jun 09, 2001 09:01 a.m.):
here is the screenshot
it says kt 133

but how come my kt133 can do 133fsb no problem/
isn't only the kt133a can do that? i heard from many post kt133 can only do max 110fsb or somethng like that
plz help

mine says i have a kt133.. which is correct. wcpuid is just confused in your case, i think, and it does identify the south bridge as a kt133 southbridge.

from your top post, you're not running a fsb of 133mhz. you're at 100mhz. look at the system clock box. the kt133 does let you run your memory asynchronously, i.e. at 133mhz when you fsb is only 100mhz, so that's probably what you're doing.

proze
06-10-01, 01:04 AM
~(-=->sky<-=-)~ (Jun 09, 2001 10:30 p.m.):
i see a green cooler on top of the northbridge and two white plastic tabs that fix the cooler onto the bridge, i also noticed that the heatsink is not held with pressure, i mean like it was loose and i can move it a little


it's dead easy to remove the stock hsf from your northbridge. look at the back of the mobo, and you'll see the little white split-pins poking out. carefully squeeze the ends together with needle-nose pliers and pull on the other side. just don't run the n.bridge without any cooler. i took mine off and put a coolermaster socket7 hsf on there. nice 'n' cool! :)

!-=sky=-!
06-10-01, 07:25 AM
proze (Jun 10, 2001 01:00 a.m.):
~(-=->sky<-=-)~ (Jun 09, 2001 09:01 a.m.):
here is the screenshot
it says kt 133

but how come my kt133 can do 133fsb no problem/
isn't only the kt133a can do that? i heard from many post kt133 can only do max 110fsb or somethng like that
plz help

mine says i have a kt133.. which is correct. wcpuid is just confused in your case, i think, and it does identify the south bridge as a kt133 southbridge.

from your top post, you're not running a fsb of 133mhz. you're at 100mhz. look at the system clock box. the kt133 does let you run your memory asynchronously, i.e. at 133mhz when you fsb is only 100mhz, so that's probably what you're doing.


i turned the fsb down b/c i was playing around with the board
i take another screenshot of this later

!-=sky=-!
06-10-01, 07:33 AM
this

proze
06-10-01, 07:55 AM
i've noticed a difference between yours and mine apart from the kt133a business... under host bridge -> revision.. your's says 3.. mine only 2. now i know my board is a revision 1.02 board. check yours, between two of the pci slots it will say rev1.0x.. what does the x say? i'm betting x is 3 on your board!

if you can, take the green heatsink off the n.bridge and have a look at the actual chip. tell us what you see!

!-=sky=-!
06-10-01, 09:11 AM
proze (Jun 10, 2001 07:55 a.m.):
i've noticed a difference between yours and mine apart from the kt133a business... under host bridge -> revision.. your's says 3.. mine only 2. now i know my board is a revision 1.02 board. check yours, between two of the pci slots it will say rev1.0x.. what does the x say? i'm betting x is 3 on your board!

if you can, take the green heatsink off the n.bridge and have a look at the actual chip. tell us what you see!

it says rev.1.05
strange eh~

Rob Cork
06-10-01, 09:54 AM
Looks as though the vendor ID 1106 refers to VIA - so the 03 probably refers to revision 03 of the chipset (ie KT133a), and I guess from that that the KT133 itself is 02. No idea what 01 is (or if it exists) - KX133 anyone??

Tomas
06-10-01, 10:37 AM
~(-=->sky<-=-)~ (Jun 10, 2001 09:11 a.m.):
proze (Jun 10, 2001 07:55 a.m.):
i've noticed a difference between yours and mine apart from the kt133a business... under host bridge -> revision.. your's says 3.. mine only 2. now i know my board is a revision 1.02 board. check yours, between two of the pci slots it will say rev1.0x.. what does the x say? i'm betting x is 3 on your board!

if you can, take the green heatsink off the n.bridge and have a look at the actual chip. tell us what you see!

it says rev.1.05
strange eh~

But still dont u think its nice that it run on 133fsb?? mine kt7 with kt133 did only do a little over 100mhz until it got really unstable

Rob Cork
06-10-01, 03:41 PM
Guess someone at Asus must have picked up the wrong reel of chips (or however they come packaged) and slapped some KT133a's on some A7Vs. Wouldn't surprise me if there's a few more out there. Wonder if there's some unlucky peeps with KT133 A7V133s? Wouldn't that be a bummer? lol :D

proze
06-10-01, 04:41 PM
^_^ lol!! ^_^

!-=sky=-!
06-11-01, 12:12 AM
haha
that would be stupid
i will pull out the mobo and loook at it
just a hard task to do

Caravan
06-11-01, 01:03 AM
I seem to remember reading somewhere that late a7v's had the 133a chip on them. i think they were testing it or something. Just noting that this sounds familiar, but I have no links to back it up.

!-=sky=-!
06-11-01, 05:31 AM
Caravan (Jun 11, 2001 01:03 a.m.):
I seem to remember reading somewhere that late a7v's had the 133a chip on them. i think they were testing it or something. Just noting that this sounds familiar, but I have no links to back it up.

if the a7v have a kt133a chip than what's the point of a7v133?
it costs like more

!-=sky=-!
06-13-01, 12:20 AM
if the a7v have a kt133a chip than what's the point of a7v133?
it costs like more