Half-Life hacked source code on-line

[Bald Shadow]

Here is the link (http://msnbc.com/news/975464.asp?0dm=W12TT#BODY)

Source code for
‘Half Life 2’ stolen, posted on the Internet

[john240sx]

i have to agree with something i read on another fourm about this. it sounds fishy that gabe KNEW that someone accessed his email account on 9/11, but yet he didn't do anything to protect the source code after the security breach as it was stolen 8 days later..... 8 days is plenty of time to unplug some CAT5 cables (which would be a little drastic but you get the point).

[Zim2411]

the article was posted back on thursday in the 'official HL2 thread'

[Bald Shadow]

I would say that it might have been a "Publicity Stunt" but according to the article,

"A source familiar with the case said federal agents were investigating. An FBI spokesman in Seattle declined comment."


But it sounds "really fishy" that he didn't do anything to protect himself.

[DaveSauce]

there is currently a discussion going on in "The official Half-Life 2 thread)"....the mods decided they didn't want HL2 threads cluttering up the forum (because there have been a ton of posts about it), so they condensed all the info into that thread. It's not just about the code being jacked, it's everything and anything that has to do with HL2...

[Flashfx2]

Yeah, but that thread isn't organized well, so I try not to use it much. It's like reading a book with all of the chapters mixed together. IMO they should make that one a sticky with information about half-life 2 and people can make other threads to discuss it.

[filip04]

This packed file is 30 MB. Unpacked its around 160 MB and contains source files. These files can be used to create programs. These programs are nice, the code is fun to look at, but you have no Half-Life 2. Whats missing is the resources, all the models, levels, scripts, textures, etc. If you program (really, not just html or something like that...) and are fluent in C++ then this might be interesting for you to look at. And if you are a competitor of Valve you have it already anyways.

To 99.9% of the people reading this, the file will be USELESS.

To the rest, it might be interesting to look at, see how they structured things, have a hands on look at their game engine and stuff, but not of real value. And about cheats... Forget it. Until you have the resources, you cant write real cheats for it that would work in online play. And the other ones in singleplayer are easy as hell anyways.

Valve made the mistake of not having enough security. I am sure they cursed themselves and yelled a lot already, but no one can take it back now. So go on with your lives and let that matter rest. Sooner or later we will have the full game and then this will be mostly forgotten.

[solidsnakexix]

To the rest, it might be interesting to look at, see how they structured things, have a hands on look at their game engine and stuff, but not of real value. And about cheats... Forget it. Until you have the resources, you cant write real cheats for it that would work in online play. And the other ones in singleplayer are easy as hell anyways.

Valve made the mistake of not having enough security. I am sure they cursed themselves and yelled a lot already, but no one can take it back now. So go on with your lives and let that matter rest. Sooner or later we will have the full game and then this will be mostly forgotten.

Thank you, and well said. Hopefully people will read this and quit saying it was takne to create multiplayer cheats.

[XWRed1]

You don't need the source to make the cheats anyways, it only saves some reverse engineering time. So maybe there will be cheats out sooner... but a wallhack is a wallhack, doesn't matter how it was made as long as it is out there.

[Flashfx2]

So the source code is legal to have?

Filip, how can you be so certain that it won't help people create multiplayer cheats? I would imagine knowing exactly how something is made would allow you to crack it a lot easier. I'm not saying you are wrong as in I have no idea on how to go about making a cheat and such. I'm just wondering, and hoping that you are right.

[Lazlo Panaflex]

Originally posted by Flashfx2
So the source code is legal to have?

Filip, how can you be so certain that it won't help people create multiplayer cheats? I would imagine knowing exactly how something is made would allow you to crack it a lot easier. I'm not saying you are wrong as in I have no idea on how to go about making a cheat and such. I'm just wondering, and hoping that you are right.

Well anyone that buys half life 2 will have the source code. Just the fact that it got released earlier than planned.

[filip04]

Originally posted by Flashfx2
So the source code is legal to have?

Filip, how can you be so certain that it won't help people create multiplayer cheats? I would imagine knowing exactly how something is made would allow you to crack it a lot easier. I'm not saying you are wrong as in I have no idea on how to go about making a cheat and such. I'm just wondering, and hoping that you are right.

1) the source code is stolen, and if you have it, you're in possession of stolen property - i don't see how it could be legal
2) i don't have the source code

3) i don't see how a graphical engine, character design, abilites, etc can help you in making cheats...
originally posted by ME
Whats missing is the resources, all the models, levels, scripts, textures, etc

notice SCRIPTS!!!! meaning the part where you do stuff, such as fire weapon, kill etc is MISSING

LP: having the source code, and the finished product are two completely different things... i wonder why microsoft doesn't want to release windows source code... by the way, go ahead, download the source code and compile it (oops, i forgot - its impossible)

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[baqai]

filip check forums at steam actually there are few people who have managed to compile it, yeah its not game (who is saying it is) but it's part of the engine

[breez]

Originally posted by Lazlo Panaflex


Well anyone that buys half life 2 will have the source code. Just the fact that it got released earlier than planned.

No. Source code doesn't come with games and programs.

[FarEast]

As i said before its all a publicity stunt.....

[baqai]

Far East i totally agree with you on that, i even think that doom3 leak was nothing but marketting stunt too.

[FattyMcNastyXK]

I think that if the person had the knowledge and was willing to do this and break laws would know about programming and did it to make cheats. Who would risk so much and just download it to what? look at it? Hopefully they will catch him before the source code spreads.

[IceMan3928]

No. Source code doesn't come with games and programs.

I think he was refering to the fact that if you have the finished product you can reverse engineer it.

[filip04]

Originally posted by FattyMcNastyXK
I think that if the person had the knowledge and was willing to do this and break laws would know about programming and did it to make cheats. Who would risk so much and just download it to what? look at it? Hopefully they will catch him before the source code spreads.

too late, its available for download on any p2p but like i said, its useless to us

[FarEast]

You know people it kind of reminds me of one of those animations over at Planet halflife like this (http://www.planethalflife.com/half-life2/delaymovie2/)

Make your own scripts using ... " Stolen Code"

It's all publicity PR B/S

[Titan386]

Originally posted by Flashfx2
So the source code is legal to have?


Most defintely not.


Well anyone that buys half life 2 will have the source code. Just the fact that it got released earlier than planned.


Actually, what one gets when one buys Half Life is the compiled executable, which is very different from the source code (look here (http://www.tvdsb.on.ca/banting/ICS3M/unit2/source_vs_object_code.htm) for a quick intro to the difference). The source code shows exactly how the game is setup, in a relatively clear manner (if one knows C++, or whatever language this game was written in). You can't learn much from an executable, on the other hand.

I find it unlikely that this would be a publicity stunt. The "cost" of the intellectual property lost is staggering. Also consider that some code was leaked that Valve does not own, openning them to potential litigation.

[donny_paycheck]

Originally posted by Zim2411
the article was posted back on thursday in the 'official HL2 thread'
Yeah, there is but one thread for this subject.