View Full Version : Removing stock heatsink on sapphire 9600 Pro
Is it very hard to remove the stock heatsink? the fan seems to be unaligned/balanced and every time i turn on the comp is sounds like its grinding on something, i want to get a iceberq but i don't want to destroy by card either....
Josebmw
10-05-03, 01:42 AM
The noise is probably being made by the fan cable touching the fan blades. There are two sticks that you have to take out from the clips that are holding the heatsink down. After that you can use pliers on the other side of the card gently to push out the clips. Be careful.
I also have a problem, my Radeon 9500 is blistering hot when I touch the backside of the card for 2 sec. or more I get burnt. The fan works, but the orb heatsink is really inneficient in removing heat, the fan barely blows anything and there is barely any surface area for the heat to be dissipated.
slater3333uk
10-05-03, 03:34 AM
Yeh its relly easy to change and the stock sink is very poor (it couldent eaven cool my underclocked gf2ti)
all you have to do is pinch the little pegs at the back and they will pop off.
oh, then what is this about people having to put cards in the freezer and stuff...
slater3333uk
10-05-03, 04:13 PM
Thats only when the hsink is glued on
The 9600pro uses pegs to hold the hsink on.
ahhh nice, will a vantec iceberq4 fit? it only says designed for nvidia :mad:
Josebmw
10-05-03, 07:36 PM
There are two Vantec iceberq's, the Iceberq Pro was designated only for Nvidia cards. The Iceberq4 is recommended for most ATI and Nvidia cards, including your Radeon 9600 Pro. The iceberq is a great heatsink.
Iceberq4 Pro is for Nvidia and Icberq4 is for ATI. Still though, the distance on a 9600 Pro from the center of the core to where it goes in the agp slot is really short.. so the normal Iceberq4 dosen't really fit without grinding down the bottom edge.
Josebmw
10-05-03, 08:18 PM
Well, I looked on Vantecusa.com, and the Iceberq4 was made for Radeon 8500, 9200,9500, 9600, 9800 and some Nvidia cards. Are there any pics displaying the Iceberq4 fitting in a Radeon 9600 Pro? I looked at a photo of a Radeon 9600 Pro and it is indeed nearer to the pins that connect to the AGP slot. I looked at some pics of the iceberq4, measuring 76x62mm, and yes you might have problems.
i have used an iceberq 4 on a couple different 9600's and motherboards and it is a little too big. You can't stick the card all the way in the AGP slot so it clicks in or anything. You should still be able to use it but you won't be able to lock your card in unless you grind down the bottom edge.
hmmm i don't want to do that, can someone recommend me a not complicated heatsink? by not complicated i mean that i don't want to put a cpu heatsink on my card and drill holes and stuff. plus as this is my first computer i don't have any heatsinks laying around :(
Josebmw
10-05-03, 11:00 PM
There is a Vantec Iceberq for VGA/Chipset heatsink too. "Vantec IceBerg, COPPER, All in one VGA & Chipset Cooling Kit ". That one was not really meant for Radeon 9800/9700, but the Radeon 9600, using .13 micron technology, should be fine with that heatsink.
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit=Go&description=Vantec%2CIceBerg%2C%2CCOPPER%2C%2CAll% 2Cin%2Cone%2CVGA%2C%26%2CChipset%2CC
linky no workie :(.... so the difference between the two is just that this one is older than the iceberq"4"?
slater3333uk
10-06-03, 10:07 AM
The Vantec WILL fit a sapphire 9600pro with absolutly no problems:)
i have one on mine and it goes in the agp slot fine its tight but it most definatly does fit
heres a pic of it on my card http://www.uploadit.org/files/051003-radeon1122.JPG
picy no workie
edit: works now :rolleyes:
how does that fit? it just doesn't bottom out in the slot?
Hmm, had it on a black sapphire one BBA and Powercolor and it didn't fit any right.. I also tried them in 3 different motherboards so i don't think that was it. I wonder if it matters which way it's on.. i had the wire coming out the other end. Also though, i noticed 9600 being the only ati card not on the iceberq4 list.
ok, then uhhh what could i use? vantec cant make the ONLY good aftermarket vga cooler.
Maybe the crystal Orb thing if it fits, the only thing else i ever see is the heatpipe things.
I got the Iceberq4 right when it came out, maybe they made it fit 9600's now. Or maybe i always put it on upside down, but i don't think that should matter.. i'll check later.
slater3333uk
10-06-03, 12:38 PM
q149 I think you may have had it mounted wrong
There are 2 sets of holes you have to make sure you use the right pair. im fairly positive that is the problem.
stan I dont know of may other good coolers that dont require modding to fit. the chrystal/crome orb is poor in comparison to the Iceburg. to be honest unless you want to spend 3 times as much on one of those huge passive coolers then the iceburg4 is the only one i can say that is relly worth it. Maybe have a look at the original Vantec iceburg (the copper one)
can you push the card all the way into the slot though? if you can, i mights just get that.... and does it come with the little "ramsink" things too?
Mine only has one set of holes.
It comes with little ramsinks but only 4
slater3333uk
10-06-03, 03:15 PM
Well in that case it looks like they may have made a revision that lets it fit on 9600pros
Like i said it fits fine on my card
its a shame it only comes with 4 sinks tho. Thats how i aquired mine a guy brought 2 kits so he could get 8 sinks and sold me the spare cooler for half price.:D
Those Ram-sinks that come with it are not verry good. I cut a TT memory kit into rinks for my ram, and they are alot cooler then the ones that comes with the Icq4. If I was going to do it again I would have just bought 8 ram-sinks from a site. Like the ones that are in the pic of the guys card above.
Josebmw
10-06-03, 04:56 PM
http://thermaltake.com/products/chipset/tgf020.htm
http://thermaltake.com/products/chipset/crystalOrb.htm
Would any of these work for a Radeon 9500? The blue orb a person said they used in a radeon 9000, but I dont know if it will fit a radeon 9500.
Yeah, mine definately has only 2 holes and when i got it it listed about every radeon card being compatable except the 9600. I tried turning it around and it's the same.
Originally posted by Josebmw
http://thermaltake.com/products/chipset/tgf020.htm
http://thermaltake.com/products/chipset/crystalOrb.htm
Would any of these work for a Radeon 9500? The blue orb a person said they used in a radeon 9000, but I dont know if it will fit a radeon 9500.
I bought the Blue one for my GF3 ti-200 and brought it back and got the Crystal-Orb. The Orb work better then the blue one, as far as on my ti-200 it did. But both of them are for older cards like the GF2, GF3. I know they would fit on the 9500, I have both the orb and Icb4 and they line up the same. You could try it, but I would not. I do know the Icb4 does not make as much noise as the Orb.... and thats a good thing :)
I am wondering why you would want to put the TT on your 9500 and not the Icbr4?
Josebmw
10-06-03, 07:07 PM
Because the TT orbs are half the price of a Vantec iceberq. I can just do a 12v to 7v easily. Would the pins on the blue/crystal orb align with the holes in the radeon 9500?
The golden colored orb in my radeon 9500 has very little surface area and therefore cools badly, I cannot touch the backside of the VPU for more than 3 seconds with out getting "burnt". I think it's over 60 C.
Ya the Orb and Icbr4 have the same hole set-up. I placed them back to back and they line up perfect.
Josebmw
10-06-03, 09:29 PM
Nice, thanks for the info. You mentioned that the TT blue heatsink performed worse than the "crystal" orb on your GF3 Ti 200, the blue seems to be finned though, did you actually notice a temperature drop between the two?
Well I dont know that temps........ But the blue one was louder and did not let me OC my card as much as I could once I put the Cyrstal orb on. So from that I figure the Cyrstal one is better.
I still say your way better off using a Icbr4 and not the orb on your 9500.
can someone post a link to the correct iceberq for the 9600... thanks
Josebmw
10-06-03, 11:18 PM
Im not denying the fact that the Iceberq4 is better, although it pushes 6 CFM's through a 40mm fan and the crystal orb pushes 12 CFM's through a 50mm fan, but also the iceberq4 has the finned heatsink. On newegg the iceberq4 is 23 bucks (including Shipping). For that price I would buy a low profile HSF, the TT 1u hsf for 12.50 dollars, and make holes through it since I have a dremel.
http://vantecusa.com/product-cooling.html# and go to CCB-A4C. I cant send direct link to the page so you have to do that.
On newegg.com : http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit=Go&description=CCB%2DA4C
If the page doesnt open, go to the site and search for "CCB-A4C"
http://shop1.outpost.com/product/3653565
if you are in CA you can get it at Frys (outpost is the on-line ver of Frys)
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