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kilroy7777
06-13-01, 03:08 PM
I was testing out some problems and starting the puter with a couple different 1000s and didn't put the heatsink on. Just checking for post.
i might of fried two chips since the board doesn't post with either now.
no error beeps. monitor just doesn't turn on.

helllllllllllllllllllllllp

krakerman
06-13-01, 03:19 PM
well... that doesn't sound good. those tbirds are HOT, and w/o a heatsink on that is bad... hell, i forgot to put my duct w/ fan back on the heatsink on one reboot, shut down fast and then put it on but didnt realize i didnt plug the fan in! anyways, shut down after a few minutes but the heatsink was too hot to touch! w/o a heatsink at all i bet you might have easily killed those two :-(

Goldwing
06-13-01, 03:46 PM
I believe the time required to fry an athlon without HSF is about 3 seconds sorry.

yermomlluvus
06-13-01, 03:48 PM
I remember that Kyle from HardOCP fried one in 8 seconds w/o heatsink...

Kurant
06-13-01, 03:56 PM
My Heatsink was not making contact with my chip, I turned the computer on, posted the GeForce startup thingy, and screen went black, all in all, probably more then then 3-4 seconds.

kilroy7777
06-13-01, 04:54 PM
well DAMMIT JIM, (doctor McCoy) i'm a geek not a millionaire....

i'm going to a friends house today to test them on his board, i'll keep you posted, I THINK I DID FRY THEM.

oh well, there goes another paycheck, lol

Oni
06-13-01, 05:45 PM
I'll bet my paycheque that you fried them. It dosn't take long.

Fiz
06-13-01, 10:36 PM
yeah, i'd put my money on "you fried'em" it only takes about 4-10 seconds. Sorry to hear of the loss.

Fiz

Ridenow
06-13-01, 11:07 PM
A few months ago I remember reading on AMD's site that it takes less than 7 seconds to fry any of their current chips. This was a while ago, so i would think it would be less time with the faster chips.

The correct answer is "bummer, you can use a masonry drill bit t make a hole in them so you can use them as a keychain"

kilroy7777
06-14-01, 01:51 AM
Its official, consider them TOAST.
oh well,
another fun lesson learned. lol

anyone want some cool little coasters.....
lol

William
06-14-01, 02:14 AM
i would love to have them! But yes, one of the AMD you just learned was never ever run an AMD cpu w/o a hsf. But you are in good company. Pat. Norton on The Screen Savers did the same thing.

Nagorak
06-14-01, 04:07 AM
kilroy7777 (Jun 13, 2001 03:08 p.m.):
I was testing out some problems and starting the puter with a couple different 1000s and didn't put the heatsink on. Just checking for post.
i might of fried two chips since the board doesn't post with either now.
no error beeps. monitor just doesn't turn on.

helllllllllllllllllllllllp

About 3 seconds (or less). What possessed you to try to turn the computer on without a heatsink? The heatsink isn't there just for looks, you know?

Goldwing
06-14-01, 06:42 AM
At least you have matching 'his' and 'hers' keychain fobs. :(

Gerti
06-14-01, 06:49 AM
Maybe u could try to RMA the chips if they are still under guarantee and don't have any burn marks on them.
U could say thet they were DOA(dead on arrival).
I think it might work.
It does not hurt to try it.

ManOfKnight
06-14-01, 07:53 AM
3 SECONDS YOU DUMAS...LoL U R AN IDIOT AMD says NEVER do that because the heat made from ANY Thunderbird will burn a chip up in 3 seconds...have fun buying 2 more Gig chips...LoL

jeff_harrison_344
06-14-01, 09:35 AM
Nyte man take it easy, we have all done this, I dont think it is gonna make him feel any better by laughing at him and calling him a dumba*s. A lot of us have fried CPUs before, and it really really sucks. So please dont make it worse by adding the comments you just said.

Wolvie
06-14-01, 09:59 AM
There is a possibility that the CPUs may still be operable........ you say there are no error beeps..... the Monitor just doesnt kick in ?

Well i know if you have an Graphics card, rather than an intergrated video.... sometimes the gold connectors get crud on them..... even while they are connected.
Try this : (it works for installing new memory too, when it isnt recognized)
Take out ur vid card and rub the gold connectors gently with a clean eraser...... then blow off all the dust and re-install the card firmly. Then start ur comp up and see if it works. If not.... try clearing the CMOS and rebooting...... if still nothing, then u've got a well-done CPU try calling place where u got it or somein and make up a story that thats the way u got it..... try get ur money back or a replacement.
If you dont have any luck with that...... they make good key chains. lol


(I only read the 1st string b4 i posted this...... lol, I saw that u tested them afterward.... n/m this post)

el
06-14-01, 10:32 AM
I think this guy has a MP keychain!!

thefly
06-14-01, 10:43 AM
Wow! 3 seconds? That's really very fast.

I won't be firing up mine without a sink then.

Carefully files this in his "don't try this folder"

Ya. I'd try to rma the chips. Probably get atleast one back.

good luck.

Fess_ter
06-14-01, 02:09 PM
NyTe (Jun 14, 2001 07:53 a.m.):
3 SECONDS YOU DUMAS...LoL U R AN IDIOT AMD says NEVER do that because the heat made from ANY Thunderbird will burn a chip up in 3 seconds...have fun buying 2 more Gig chips...LoL



Wise men learn from fools, or dumbas*'s, if you prefer.

Fess_ter

jeff_harrison_344
06-14-01, 02:13 PM
Nice wuote Fesster

NyTe really shoulda taken a pill or something. Instead of feeling bad for him because he just lost 2 very nice chips, hes putting him down some more.

mikejae
06-14-01, 02:42 PM
What kinda mobo are you using? I have a kt7a-r and it just doesnt start up when the heatsink doesn't have full contact. I just reseated the heatsink and it worked. I guess there is some kinda protection on the abit's.

Goldwing
06-14-01, 07:03 PM
mikejae (Jun 14, 2001 02:42 p.m.):
What kinda mobo are you using? I have a kt7a-r and it just doesnt start up when the heatsink doesn't have full contact. I just reseated the heatsink and it worked. I guess there is some kinda protection on the abit's.

I would say that makes you a very lucky man!
8)

ReTiCuLeX
06-14-01, 07:11 PM
Not really Ive had alot of luck with a 1.2 without a heatsink or fan on it I booted her up and then when i realized it I shut it down and still till this day my 1.2 Survives w00t

ManOfKnight
06-14-01, 07:39 PM
[quote]jeff_harrison_344 (Jun 14, 2001 09:35 a.m.):
I am sorry for calling him a Dumas...dude though, you ALWAYS have to have cooling to your TB...they are TOO hot and get that way TOO quick...peace outquote]

jeff_harrison_344
06-14-01, 09:16 PM
Thats alright, I know I think you are interpretting it wrong. He didnt think that it was okay to run it without a HSF, its just that he forgot to put it on. Stuff like that happens a lot, people forget to plug in fans etc. etc.

13oots2
06-17-01, 03:06 AM
Just fired up my 900 without hsf was checking if system fan worked at time. Luckily it didn,t post and made some weird clicking sounds. Got the power lead out in about 7sec as it wouldn't power down. Don't think I've sweated so much after putting hsf back on and waiting for post. I'm still operational more by luck than judgement.

Nifrel
06-18-01, 01:03 PM
Maybe it's because we accept that CPU makers are too cheap to put in some sort of protection circuits. Intel used to have this in their Pentium overdrive chips so when they overheated they would shut themselves down.
They want you to burn em up so they sell more...