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jonspd
10-12-03, 01:09 AM
I need to know if anyone has opened there 530 forton and adjusted there rails with the pot's inside. If so could you please tell me how you did it. I have read about the 350's but no info for the 530's pot's anywhere. I just got this pus to take the place of my 430tp my tp had a better 12 this one has better 3.3 and 5 so I want to get my 12 up and maybe my 3 by adjusting the pot.

dustybyrd
10-12-03, 01:36 AM
I need to know if anyone has opened there 530 forton and adjusted there rails with the pot's inside. If so could you please tell me how you did it. I have read about the 350's but no info for the 530's pot's anywhere. I just got this pus to take the place of my 430tp my tp had a better 12 this one has better 3.3 and 5 so I want to get my 12 up and maybe my 3 by adjusting the pot.


have you checked these voltages with a voltmeter?

that's the only way you can be sure of the true voltages...it's possible that they don't need adjusting...

in any case i haven't had the need to adjust the pots on my 530...so i can't help you there

jonspd
10-12-03, 01:48 AM
I'am pretty sure the reading on my 12 rail's I'am getting is close to correct evern if it isn't I want to run 12.5 instead of 12 so i'am getting 11.80 average I want 12.5 average so even is the reading is off it's not where I want it.

dustybyrd
10-12-03, 01:57 AM
I'am pretty sure the reading on my 12 rail's I'am getting is close to correct evern if it isn't I want to run 12.5 instead of 12 so i'am getting 11.80 average I want 12.5 average so even is the reading is off it's not where I want it.


why would you want to run at 12.5v? 12v is the correct setting and probably the most stable...provided it doesn't drop under load...

also, in my experience you must check with a voltmeter if you want the right voltages...

i have found that with both my antec tp 550 and fortron 530 read very accurate voltage lines than what motherboard monitor would have me believe....

and the voltages fluctuate (12.04-12.26 with the fortron 530 and 11.92-12.16 with the antec tp) with the motherboard monitor...

however, with the voltmeter the fortron is 12.1-12.12 regardless of load....and the antec is 11.98-12v regardless of load...

therefore they are both different than motherboard monitor and they are both different in different amounts...so they can not be trusted...

jonspd
10-12-03, 11:01 PM
bump

Deathknight
10-12-03, 11:16 PM
I am not sure if you said in there if you actually did use a multimeter to check your rails. Step 1 of adjusting your POTS is that you actually need to use a multimeter. You could already be putting out 12.5 and then you would be adjusting it up to 13. You just have no idea what the actual output is without measuring it yourself. Now why you would want such a high value under load is beyond me. The ideal situation is if my PSU was on the nose at 12v under 100% load.

jonspd
10-13-03, 06:38 PM
Well thank's to this lovely internet world I got my answer form another forum. There is 5 pot's one for each rail and 2 for overvolt protection.

dustybyrd
10-13-03, 06:56 PM
Well thank's to this lovely internet world I got my answer form another forum. There is 5 pot's one for each rail and 2 for overvolt protection.


nice to know, thanks...

so have you checked the lines with a voltmeter yet?

if you haven't, i'd bet a bunch that will not be the same as the mbm software readings...

jonspd
10-13-03, 07:26 PM
No and I didn't want to even take the psu out if it didn't have any pot's inside of it so all I really wanted to know was I going to be wasting my time opening the psu or not. But instead I got the response every noob get's check it with a MM well I agree software is worng alot but I wasn't wanting to know that I was wanting to know if this psu was modable.

Deathknight
10-13-03, 07:33 PM
You know you don't need to remove the PSU to test the rails with a multimeter right?

dustybyrd
10-13-03, 07:40 PM
No and I didn't want to even take the psu out if it didn't have any pot's inside of it so all I really wanted to know was I going to be wasting my time opening the psu or not. But instead I got the response every noob get's check it with a MM well I agree software is worng alot but I wasn't wanting to know that I was wanting to know if this psu was modable.


i mentioned that i didn't know for sure whether the psu had controllable pots inside...

but, noob or no noob, it's a good idea to know what your voltages really are before you start changing them...

i would say that's good advice, even if unsolicited...

juliendogg
10-13-03, 08:56 PM
well, that was an interesting read. :rolleyes:

I would be very suprised if the pots inside that fortron 530 need any adjusting, and even more suprised if you raise them without frying something. Motherboard Monitor shows my fortron 400w as giving out about 11.8 - 12. with a nice digital multimeter it shows 12v - 12.1 under load or idle. btw, all u need to do is put the postive test lead into the yellow 12v lead on any molex connector, and ground the black lead, no need to remove the psu from the PC.


J.

dustybyrd
10-13-03, 09:00 PM
all u need to do is put the postive test lead into the yellow 12v lead on any molex connector, and ground the black lead, no need to remove the psu from the PC.

J. [/B]



and also do it for the 12v lines that connect into the motherboard (squeeze it in between the plastic housing and the wire)...to get the voltage of the CPU line under load as well as the 12v motherboard under load...

jonspd
10-14-03, 12:30 AM
Originally posted by Deathknight
You know you don't need to remove the PSU to test the rails with a multimeter right?


yes


thanks for the info of how to get my 12v reading guy's and sry if I was being a little annal. I just wanted to know if anyone had moded there rail's with the pot's inside of this psu.

as for fring thing's it's going to happen if you are a really xtreme overclocker. but i have heard of people running 14v on there 12 without any problem's so I was going to up mine so I get about 12.5-12.7 around 5% overvolt.

dustybyrd
10-14-03, 12:43 AM
but i have heard of people running 14v on there 12 without any problem's so I was going to up mine so I get about 12.5-12.7 around 5% overvolt. [/B]


please don't take this the wrong way, but why do you want to run the voltage at 12.5-12.7?

does your 12v line drop under load?

Susquehannock
10-15-03, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by juliendogg
well, that was an interesting read. :rolleyes:

I would be very suprised if the pots inside that fortron 530 need any adjusting, and even more suprised if you raise them without frying something. Motherboard Monitor shows my fortron 400w as giving out about 11.8 - 12. with a nice digital multimeter it shows 12v - 12.1 under load or idle. btw, all u need to do is put the postive test lead into the yellow 12v lead on any molex connector, and ground the black lead, no need to remove the psu from the PC.


J.

Same here.
My 400w Fortron shows 11.80 on the 12v under MbM5
but the MultiMeter shows 12.05.

jonspd
10-19-03, 12:11 PM
Well all is fine I manage to get a good overvolt on all my rail's

all with a muiltmeter

12+ = 12.25
5+ = 5.26
3.3+ = 3.45



with mbm5

12+ = 12.10-11.86
5+ = 5.08
3.3+ = 3.31


thank's once again with the help fellas but didn't help my overclock @ all so must need a new board this one want pass 220 no matter what voltage on what you give it.

dustybyrd
10-19-03, 12:14 PM
cool...

now we know it can be done if needed....and we know that your mbm voltage readings are lower than actual readings...

since overvolting didn't help your o/c, are you going back to stock voltage?

jonspd
10-19-03, 12:26 PM
Nah not for now

12.25 is 2 % overvolt
5.25 is 5 % overvolt
3.45 is 5 % overvolt


being is I overvolt my chip more then 20% some times I dont think 5% on my rail's is to much to fry anything really and if I do o well the joy of overclocking volting.

dustybyrd
10-19-03, 12:57 PM
Nah not for now

12.25 is 2 % overvolt
5.25 is 5 % overvolt
3.45 is 5 % overvolt


being is I overvolt my chip more then 20% some times I dont think 5% on my reail's is to much to fry anything really and if I do o well the joy of overclocking volting.


yeah you're probably right, but keep us posted ;)

Deathknight
10-19-03, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by jonspd

thank's once again with the help fellas but didn't help my overclock @ all so must need a new board this one want pass 220 no matter what voltage on what you give it.

Didn't realize you were trying this to increase your fsb oc. Don't you think your pc3200 memory is limiting your fsb oc?

jonspd
10-19-03, 03:03 PM
no my hyperx pc3500 isn't limiting my overclock as far as I know