Danner/ MCP600 compared (pics)

[cypher_138]

I picked up the new Swiftech pump today and the first thing that stood out, (beside how sweet it looks) is it's small size. Here's some comparison shots:

http://members.speedguide.net/cypher_138/3.jpg


http://members.speedguide.net/cypher_138/4.jpg

This pump really moves alot of water for being so small. It's a perfect ballance between head, flow and heat. The only thing is the 4 pin connector is'nt designed for an external design. This can be overcome by lengthing it with an extender or soldering a longer tail onto it. As for temps I was at 27C using Nanotherm PCM+. This time I went with Shin Etsu, which is at 28/29C. Due to the longer cure time of my current TIM it's safe to say there was a decrease in temps. The temps are gathered by Asus Probe and a thermal sensor on my Enermax A5 affixed to the chip with thermal tape beside the die. Not 100% but all I have to go on.

[Giblet Plus!]

I want one now. :D

[eXCeSS]

how big are the fittings? they look a lot smaller than the ones on the danner

[ToolBox]

Me too, might get this instead of that Iwaki...

[cypher_138]

The grey inserts are plugs used for shipping. 1/2" ID 3/4" OD tubing slides over the barbs. Their great pumps.:D

[ToolBox]

Yah I figured that. Hmmm if I may ask how much did the cascade cost w/ shipping?

[cpufan]

How about a comparison of flow rate through your system? Did you happen to measure it with the Mag3?

The swiftech sure is compact.

[Codeman05]

whats the GPH and cost of that pump??
Looks pretty sweet

[cupidr17]

its $80 bucks and 160gph. Im still a little reluctant about this pump. Still waiting for more people to comment on it. If its worth it, i'll sell my eheim 1250 and look into it. I think i read somewhere that people were returning it coz the thing gets loud after a while.

[Soja]

How loud is it running in your system now? Compared to the mag?

[sbud]

It's only loud for the first couple of days, Bill has said this on few forums, I never really noticed that it was loud from the beginning. It is nowhere near a via1300 if that tells ya anything, its a real nice pump, so much that I just might get another :)

[ToolBox]

I think the Mag3 has better preformance though, yet its not plug and play like the Swifty.

[cypher_138]

The Cascade was $100 shipped when I got it in July. The noise leval of the pump is quiter than the Danner which was'nt very loud itself. Here's a real world flow chart that pHaestus put together at Procooling:
Flow chart (http://www.procooling.com/users/phaestus/pqcurves.jpg)
These are the specs from Swiftechs site:
Nominal voltage
12 V DC

Nominal power
9 W

Motor type Brushless, microprocessor controlled
Maximum head
2.2 M - 7.2 FT

Maximum discharge
600 L/HR - 160 GPH

Rotational speed
3000 RPM

Connection size
½" barbs

Electrical connector
Molex 4 pin

Weight
1.4 Lb (650 gr)

Motor casing material Aluminum
Insulation
E Class
http://members.speedguide.net/cypher_138/mcp600_20pq_20rev2_300x250.gif

[Miralcos]

Man, you really got me drooling all over the place now.. :D

edit: Please tell us where you got this rascal!!!

[cypher_138]

LOL :D
I got it here (http://www.frozencpu.com/cgi-bin/frozencpu/ex-pmp-15.html)

[vudoodoodoo]

Nice pump.

[SilverArrow]

I like the way it looks, but how does it perform? I have a dying Eheim 1250 in my hands and Im wondering if this would be a worthy follow up. Any comments?

[pvc_and_frost]

what is the 'head' mentioned in the chart? (im a newb at this so bear with me) and does this put the mag 3 or the mcp600 on top with performance?

[cypher_138]

The head is about 10.5 I think. It's better than the mag3/1250 for a few reasons IMO;
-Lower heat output.
-Great head pressure/flow rate for water cooling.
-Small size/less noise.
It seems more comparable to the Iwaki MD-15R minus the cost.

[cupidr17]

i think we should wait to see how it holds up reliability wise. No use in a great performing pump if it dies within a couple months. Other than that, if it werent for the price, id jump all over it.

[omaticrail]

Yet another draw on the 12V rail... :\

[Graystar]

Originally posted by omaticrail
Yet another draw on the 12V rail... :\
Oh come on! It's just 9 measly watts! Your PSU is under-utilized anyway ;)

[Soja]

My 300watt antec is giving all its got :D

Originally posted by SilverArrow
I have a dying Eheim 1250 in my hands and Im wondering if this would be a worthy follow up. Any comments?

Dying 1250, that's not something you hear everyday. If you check the
link (http://www.procooling.com/users/phaestus/pqcurves.jpg) cypher pointed to above you'll see a comparison chart w/ both the 1250 and mcp600.

[extremecorvette]

Who many GPH are you using and temp? If you have tried other pumps post the GPM, temp, and waterblocks.