Cpu Temperature

[Ramuhz]

Hey guys, I've overclocked my cpu from Athlong 1.1Ghz to 1.26Ghz and now my cpu temp goes from around 43.6*C to around 56*C Max... Before, it was overclocked, my cpu temp was around 42.0 to 51*C Max.. Is my cpu getting fried or is the temperature all right?? My mobo temp goes from around 23*C to 33*C max... I am only using a standard heatsink and fan that comes with the computer and a fan that is connected underneath the hard drive.. (Front panel)

tnx to whoever replies to this msg since I know this questino would have been answered so many times before..

[SleepyKat]

you need to get a better heat sink. A generic HSF(Heat Sink Fan) just marginally meets AMD requirements. So if you want to start O/Cing, you will need to update the HSF.

TB 1 GHz AXIA @ 1.425 GHz 45C at full load.

[Megahurtz]

You should really add at least one exhaust fan, and your PSU fan should also be evacuating air from your case.

Since you've entered into overclocking, you are most likely in need of a more robust HSF. At the clockspeed that you are currently running, you should buy a top tier cooler. One of the all copper coolers equipped with a 30+ CFM fan would be an excellent choice. A forum search, or a look at Joe's reviews that are linked to from the front page..see the left hand series of links "Heatsink Reviews and Tips", should give you an idea as to what the best coolers are..this is not an area that you should look to save a few dollars.

As to how much additional case cooling you'll need depends on many factors, and the above recommendation is the barest minimum that would suffice in most non-overclocked conditions. So, some further investigation in this area is necessary.

A complete listing of system specs. may be helpful, as the way in which you are getting your reported temperatures can be quite far from the best estimate of your actual CPU temperature. Someone may also be usinf the same case as you are and be able to offer tips specific to your set up.

The more complete a picture that you can give, the more likely that you'll get your heat issue resolved quickly. You might want to consider running without you case side covers on, as this should really help because of your currently inadequate air flow.

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[Ramuhz]

thanks alot for the replies guys... But all I am trying to ask is, is my cpu temp too hot at the moment.. I mean, lots of my mates says that the cpu temp that my cpu is getting is alright and that i shouldnt need extra cooling, unless i want to overclock more. They say that @ full load 56*C is adequate and will not fry the cpu.. I came here to ask other people if my friends words are correct or not...

Also, the reason why I do believe that 56*C max (Full load) is adequate is cuz I have o/c my PII 350 to 467mhz just using that ordinary heatsink and fan that came with my PII system.. and I think that runs alot more hotter than the current state of my amd cpu and I have had no problems with it, just that I have to run my Pc100 ram on Cas3 instead of 2 :(

So plz guys, just tell me, is my cpu getting fried @ 56*C or not? If it is, I might buy a Thermal take Chrome Orb Cooler instead, but I really dont want to spend more money if I really dont need to..

tnx again to whoever replies to this msg...

Athlon 1.1Ghz o/c 1.26Ghz
192 PC133 SDRAM
45.2 GB HDD
MSI Geforce 2 MX 32mb o/c mem: 202mhz core: 210mhz
Creative SB Live! Value

[Hoot]

No, it is not getting fried. As for a bigger HSF, if I were you, I'd look into some inexpensice case cooling first. If you mobo goes from 23C up to 33C under load, you are definitely in need of some more circulation, or leave the cover off and see what that accomplishes. Fans are relatively inexpensive compared to a new HSF. Strive to get that CPU temp down in the 40s if possible.

Hoot

[Ramuhz]

tnx for the reply hoot.. So could somebody here plz tell me whats the highest cpu temp an amd cpu can go before it starts frieng? /gets fried??

tnx for the help guys

[Hoot]

According to AMD, 90-95C. Long before that happens, you will experience poor or failing performance though.

Hoot

[Ferg]

your chip is in no immedaite danger, but over a matter of months, yes your cpu will eventually die. First, it will start running slower, then it will get a little slower than that, then it wont even run at stock speed. Or, you can make a small investment now and save yourself a lot of grief. Also, if you take the side panel off your case it might lower your case temp a bit, worked for me. By the way, i recommend OCZ Gladiator, great hsf with good easy clip for 30 bucks. It will definatly be enough for your modest overclock.

[castle lager fan]

Repeat after me! DO NOT BUY THE ORB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have seen too many people crying of chipped cores and poor cooling with ORBs.

The question now is how far do you want to oc and how much money do you want to spend?

Buying a good case and PSU can always used in the future. Same goes for HSF. If you go to the cooling section you will see various case cooling stuff and some good HSF discussed.

[Ramuhz]

Hey guys, thanks to all the replies, I appreciate them and has helped me alot..

I have added a fan from a power supply just on top of the cpu fan, and is somehow working because my cpu tem, after max load is only around 49*C - 50*C. The only thing, is that, my cpu fan indicator tells me that the fan is spinning at 4678 - 4800rpm (before i added the power fan, it was on 4500 - 4560rpm (something like that) :)... Is this a problem??

Also, since i got the cpu to run a little cooler, I used the pencil trick to enable to unlock the cpu multiplier. (I wasnt going to do it, just incase I #$%^ it up, but when i took off the cpu fan and heatsink and looked underneath just to look at where the l1 bridge was, - my overclocking feelings took over and told me to go right ahead.. Lucky it worked, and now I am running my cpu @ 1.28Ghz using a 11.5x cpu multiplier and 111fsb. My cpu's temp got to around 54*C on max load. I thought that was an alright temp since everybody says it ok, so i tried for 1.33Ghz using 10.5x multiplier and 133fsb, but it just wont load into windows, gives me config.sys errors, registry backup bs and sometimes it gets into windows then restarts..so I tried for 1.2Ghz using 12x multiplier and 100fsb and that still does the same thing. I tried lots of diff methods but the only thing that seems to work was 11.5x multiplier and 111fsb. I even tried 9x, 133fsb and that still didnt work.. Have I done something wrong with the pencil trick or is it something else.. Could somebody please help me out.. tnx

Athlon 1.28Ghz
Asus A7V KT133 mobo
192 PC133 ram
MSI Geforce2 MX o/c 210mem/212core
Creative Sounblaster Live! Value

[supraway]

There is no problem with your CPU fan turning faster now. It is exactly what would be expected after adding another fan, less air resistance. There is a concern, though, your PSU fan may be doing ALL the work.

Oh, and the reason you can't go any higher FSB then about 111 or so, is because you have the KT133 chipset, which is only rated at 100mhz. Most people can't do above 110-115.

[Nagorak]

A lot of people exagerrate their under load temps. That said 56C is a LITTLE high, but you're in no immediate danger of frying the chip. In fact it will probably have a pretty long life even at that temp. If you could bring the temp down a bit, it would be good. But it's not really an emergency.

[Ramuhz]

Hey guys, thanks for all the replies on my msg. I would of thought that nobody would answer this, since - its been probably asked like thousands of times.. This would be my last msg since all my questions have been aswered, and I appreciate and thank all the peeps who have helped me out.

Places like these makes overclocking much easier..

[SpeedDemon]

It's probably not too bad..I'm running 57C sometimes 140F (I dont know that in C) but I plan to fix that soon. When you find youve got the spare $30 it probably wouldnt hurt to go buy yourself a nice CPU cooling system or a case cooling system. I know I will. ;-)

Also, your probe could be wrong. I think mine is. I leave the case off and I get 32C MB temps but the room I'm in is 75 or lower F (So I suck at Celsius =P), so don't trust the probe exactly. Mine keeps telling me that my 12 and 5Vs are falling into critical ranges but then they pop right back up

[Ramuhz]

Hey guys, I finall got $60 (NZ) spear cash and so I went and bought me a thermal take mini super orb cooler and now am having doubts if I had installed it correctly.. Could somebody here plz direct me to a site \that has a guide on how to properly install an orb and use it to full potential for cooling?

my system is running @ 1277mhz - 11x 116 fsb and the temp still climbs to around 56*C max load..

maybe i didnt apply the silicon compound correctly and thats prolly why my cpu still climbs up pretty high.. The other thing is that, the heatsink does not even get that hot, not like on my old heatsink and fan..

tnx again guys

[SpeedDemon]

I have the same setup...it just doesnt absorb much heat, I'm afraid. You only put a little bit of thermal absorbing compoung on the top of your processor and then pop the heatsink on (Back first, then the front snaps on).

[Ramuhz]

Hey guys, I swapped my old mini super orb for a different 1 cuz of the last 1 was stuffed, the fans/fan was heating the side of the heatsink and was making alot of noise and actually slowing down the fan..

I am still using a mini super orb, and my idle temp now is 46*C - 114F and mobo temp of 29*C - 84F and on max load, my cpu temp is at 49*C - 51*C.. A hell lot better than the last orb I had. But still, I c why u guys hate the orb so much; the mini super orb was suppose to cool down up to 1.33Ghz athlons as stated on the thermaltake homepage, but it can barely cool down my little overclocking..

We'll anyway, I am happy with the orb I got, since its cooling my cpu a hell lot better than my old hsf.

One little question guys.. Is overclocking using the jumpers/switches better than using bios? Are there any differences between the 2?

tnx

Athlon Tbird 1.1Ghz @ 1287Mhz (11x, 117fsb)
Asus A7V KT133 mobo
192 PC133 SDram
MSI Geforce2 MX 210mem, 212core
Creative SB Live Value!
Seagate Medalist 37.2 Gb

[Duron Overclocker]

Ramuhz (Jun 21, 2001 08:03 p.m.):
thanks alot for the replies guys... But all I am trying to ask is, is my cpu temp too hot at the moment.. I mean, lots of my mates says that the cpu temp that my cpu is getting is alright and that i shouldnt need extra cooling, unless i want to overclock more. They say that @ full load 56*C is adequate and will not fry the cpu.. I came here to ask other people if my friends words are correct or not...

Also, the reason why I do believe that 56*C max (Full load) is adequate is cuz I have o/c my PII 350 to 467mhz just using that ordinary heatsink and fan that came with my PII system.. and I think that runs alot more hotter than the current state of my amd cpu and I have had no problems with it, just that I have to run my Pc100 ram on Cas3 instead of 2 :(

So plz guys, just tell me, is my cpu getting fried @ 56*C or not? If it is, I might buy a Thermal take Chrome Orb Cooler instead, but I really dont want to spend more money if I really dont need to..

tnx again to whoever replies to this msg...

Athlon 1.1Ghz o/c 1.26Ghz
192 PC133 SDRAM
45.2 GB HDD
MSI Geforce 2 MX 32mb o/c mem: 202mhz core: 210mhz
Creative SB Live! Value
No ORB!! Get at least a volcano!