Freeze12 ?

[Zork]

I was surfing the web and happen to stumble on this, but all the reading and researching I have done regarding phase change setups I have never heard a single reference to this stuff. Does anyone know if it is any good, is it still available, and can it stand-alone as a refridgerent or is it just an addative to an R12 system? Even searching the forum resulted in no results!

Thanks in advance

[shiyan]

I've never heard of freeze12, although you might try http://www.phase-change.com/.

if bowman does not know, then 99% chance of not finding someone who knows.

sorry about not being able to help you more.

[Zork]

There are several people selling freeze 12 on ebay, just do a search. Im just curious of why there is such little info about this stuff.

Thanks

[Minjin]

Freeze12 is an EPA approved drop-in replacement for R12. This is a blend style refridgerant. Its used with older cars where people don't want to spend the money to convert to R134A. The R12 is completely evacuated and special fittings are installed on the car for installation of the F12. Freeze12 consists of about 80% R134A and about 20% R142B which acts as a carrier for the large and heavy mineral oil molecules. What happens is that the R142 leaks out of the system first, causing you to no longer have an oil carrier in the system. It doesn't take much of a leak to cause this to happen and of course, with no oil, your system will degrade and eventually break.

I don't recommend it for you guys. Its only really used by auto people for convenience reasons and even then is highly frowned upon by many. Stick with R134A (convenience) or R12(performance) if you can get it.

http://www.freeze12.com/

Mark

[baker18]

If you have a R12 compressor just use R22. You will get better performance than F12.

baker18

[Zork]

Wow, I appreciate all the input, well since im just starting with phase change cooling, and only have a 1/12hp compressor (the one from the ever so popular desktop fountain drink cooler) I will stay with r134a untill i stumble accross a bigger compressor, then I guess I will break down and have my system charged with r22. I was hopeing that it would be a cheap and available improvement, but oh well, 10C load with my current setup isnt bad for my first attempt and the money I have spent.

Thanks once again :)