9800 non pro clocking under a 9000!?

[Yunalesca]

I bought my 9800 non pro yesterday brand new, I installed it perfectly and it works Great. I bought this new card so I can play FFXI and setup dual monitors however the FFXI benchmark is giving me a score of aroudn 2455, when my friend ona 9000 is getting a 3000.

This is realy bugging me, I have no idea why its going so slow..only things I can think of are.

1. The fact that I couldnt find the latest AGP driver for my intel chipset.
2. My motherboard has some type of built in graphics device I havent disabled and their conflicting.
3. I have bad memory.
4. My computer is just cluttered and going slowly.

Please, for the price I was expecting it to blow all my friends cards out of the water, it works fine, but its not working to the level I would expect it to.

Any help is appreciated.

I was just reading some other thread about AGP and stuff, and ran sandra and realised my 9800 non pro is listed as a 9800 pro, now im sure its a non pro card, so it must be software. Could the wrong software result in a loss of power even if the software is designed for the superior of the cards?

[kct2]

run any other benchmarks? 3dmark2001 and 03.

System specs? If you are running a PIII800 and your friend has a 3 ghz P4, that could explain the difference.

[Cyrix_2k]

What card did you have before the 9800?

Also, the drivers for your chipset graphics set will really screw up your benchies. Make sure you uninstall ALL your old graphics drivers. It is generally recommended to format and start from scratch.

[Yunalesca]

System:

p4 1.99 gig hz
512 ram
80 gig HD

all I realy know.

I was running a Nvidia TNT 64.

And my friend is running a comp way weaker than mine.

I was pretty sure that I uninstalled the other drives, I followed the directions as much as I could. Id like to wipe but I dont realy feel secure in my knowledge to do it.

[kct2]

First make sure any nvidia driver and out of the add/remove programs list, then I would run this: http://content.guru3d.com/index.php?page=detonatorrip&menu=0
then make sure all ati listings are out of add/remove;
then cat-uninstaller from here: http://www.ati.com/support/drivers/misc/catalystutils.html
(normally I wouldn't bother doing this, but something is really messed up, so I think it will not hurt to start with a clean slate.)

then install the newest mobo drivers, then install newest ATI drivers. Also make sure you have DX9.


If that doesn't help, then I think you will need to reinstall windows (unless someone else has any other suggestions?). Sometimes that is the only solution. (MAKE SURE YOU BACKUP DATA, and you have a working CD for windows and any other software you will need to reinstall). Many people re-install whenever they change a major component, and a video card is definately a major component.


If you could post the model and brand of the motherboard I'm sure someone could hunt down a link to the newest chipset drivers. If you download sandra (http://www.sisoftware.co.uk/index.html?dir=dload&location=sware_dl_x86&langx=en&a=) it should tell you in the mainboard info module at least what chipset you are using. But most motherboards have the model number printed on the board, so if you could open the case much more info could be found.

BTW - that is generally called a 2ghz P4;)And my friend is running a comp way weaker than mine.

Can you define 'way weaker'? What CPU would help.

[Yunalesca]

Did all that no dramatic improvement. I finally found the latest drivers for my AGP on my chipset is Intel 82845.

Not sure, but I know her processor is lower than mine, and same ram and less powerfull vid card.

So is my only option to uninstall and install windows? Can I do this without loosing everything on my HD or do I need to wipe?

[ProBoner]

If it makes you feel any better, my old AMD 1800+xp with my ati r9000 (64meg) @ stock speeds only hit about a little over 2200, yet as soon as I upgraded to a 2500+ barton, that score jumped to over 3000 (3368 when O/C'd to 3200+) with the same card.

So I think this benchmark is more processor dependant than videocard dependant...

[shiyan]

run futuremark.com's 3DMark2001 to check. Most people are much more familiar with this benchmark.

make sure you disable the onboard graphics, and that you have your monitor connected to the 9800.

make sure you have Catalyst 3.7 installed.

With everything set up normally, you should be getting something like 8000~9000 3DMarks (2001).

[kct2]

yes, 3dmark2k1 please! It's possible nothing is wrong.

(get it here (http://www.futuremark.com/download/?3dmark2001.shtml) in case you didn't know)

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I just ran the benchmark, and I'm pretty sure it is very CPU dependent.

Athlon XP 2.2ghz
512mb PC2700
radeon 9700pro (360/333)

I got:

a) 5007: HIGH resolution, AA/AF off
b) 4515: HIGH res. 4x/8x
c) 5442: LOW res. AA/AF off
d) 5379: LOW res. 4x/8x


Figure a 9800NP should be about the same as an overclocked 9700, not sure exactly how they compare, but that leaves the CPU to explain the difference. My CPU is alot faster than yours, (I don't know how much experience you have with computers, but a 2.2ghz Athlon XP is much faster than a 2ghz P4) and that should explain the difference. Also, the sound card you have will have an influence on this benchmark, because there is sound. Probably not alot, but if the sound is eating up the CPU it will hurt.

Still post some 3dmark scores, and a comparison link, that will shed light upon what is going on.