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rush69
11-01-03, 01:29 AM
I currently have 2400 oc'd at 11x200 = 2200mhz.
Which of these CPU's xp2700 or xp2800 should I consider getting?
I understand 2700 use TB's core and 2800 is Barton. Both at 333fsb and Barton has 2x Cache... Looks like 2800 is a winer with 2x cache and 100mhz more in cpu speed stock.

Which one is better oc'er and can the same wire trick that I did on my 2400 be accomplished on any of these guys.

Thanks.

Stormer
11-01-03, 01:36 AM
hey have you considered the barton 2500 ? From what i have read its a great choice for overclocking.. and the overclocking data base the averages between the barton 2800 and the 2500 are very close with the 2500 having a ton more submissions.


But overall i would pick the barton

larva
11-01-03, 01:46 AM
Exactly how difficult is it to understand that this thread belongs in AMD cpus? I'm getting tired of moving these kinds of posts, at some point I will progress to deleting them on sight.

c627627
11-01-03, 02:05 AM
Well with a 2700+ Barton, you may not need any wire tricks as it has an above 12.5 multiplier by default if I'm right in this thread:
http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=232303

...but it would be foolish indeed to go for anything other then the 2500+ Barton for overclocking, unless you want to go for the $50 T-Bred B on account of money and being able to do average 2.3 GHz for $50.

2500+ overclocks very similar to 2800+ but is much better then the 2700+ T-Bred B which I think overclocks worse then choice 1800+ T-Bred B's which you can get for the same price or less as the 2700+ with a guaranteed stepping that does over 2.3 GHz with good cooling and Power Supply.


Deleting threads for being repeatedly posted at the wrong place is an extreme measure. If this is becoming intolerable, should you not consider a reversal:

Right now you have a general CPUs section with
AMD CPUs
INTEL CPUs
on top.

Maybe have
AMD CPUs
INTEL CPUs
CPUs
from the get go (with CPUs being last.)

The alternative is to keep moving threads as sooner or later it'll dawn on us that people will never stop posting q's in the thread that is closest to them...

larva
11-01-03, 02:20 AM
Originally posted by c627627
The alternative is to keep moving threads as sooner or later it'll dawn on us that people will never stop posting q's in the thread that is closest to them...

Believe it or not if people figure it out from me moving them they will figure it out a whole lot faster if I were to delete them.

To quote:

3. Please observe our posting rules, which includes posting in the proper Topic. We have included a Topic list to help the new person in our forum determine where their post most likely belongs.

This is from the user agreement that all agree to in order to register here, and that I am charged to uphold.

http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=115345

Breaking any of the rules listed can result in the post being deleted, at the bare minumum. I have been patiently moving these posts, leaving re-directs, and I am well tired of it. This was not an invitation to a debate.

rush69
11-01-03, 02:48 AM
aaww.. sorry buddy didnt notice i posted here... was just searching thru all the post to find answer to my question...and posted here accidently...

2500+ is a good cpu i agree but why get something that slower then my 2400+ at the moment.... i need something that will be faster then mine and i have 2 options 2700 or 2800.... there is no money issue here just which of these 2 i should go for...
keep posting please.

and sorry again larva for posting in wrong forum section... atleast this is first time in my 200 some posts... :)

tnx.

c627627
11-01-03, 03:38 AM
2800+ Barton of course but:
The same philosophy as posted here for Thoroughbreds holds true for 2500+ vs 2800+ Bartons:

Originally posted by c627627


Overclockers exploit the manufacturing process knowing the goal of the manufacturer was to have all CPUs being capable of running as fast as the line's fastest processor plus additional headroom. Only those CPUs that pass rigorous tests at default voltages, are given labels toward the end of the line. Others are labeled not just according to tests, but according to marketing plans.

So as you can see:
http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=240564

Thoroughbred B's scale to 2800+.

We noticed that the greatest overclockers were 1700+ and 2100+, (and now the new 1800+ T-Bred B's) capable of reaching those end of the line speeds of 2800+ "plus additional headroom."

That's why it's best to buy those CPUs and not higher labeled CPUs since $ is another factor in overclocking.

...and that's why 1700+ T-Bred B should scale not too far below any 2x00+ T-Bred B using the same equipment.