Fugger broke 29k marks!!!!!!!!!

[Overclocker550]

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7181603



:eek:

[Twigs]

:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :attn:

OMG

[SpaceyWilly]

hah he couldnt break 30k. loser. j/k I think Im gonna pee myself :eek:

[Overclocker550]

heh if he listens to me and is able to change the fsb cause someone said he has an ES he could get close to 30k. I nearly !!!!!!!! myself when I saw that 29k! also his lobby score went down a few fps so he has room for a couple more hundred and hes probably hard at work. I say he will end around 29.5k

[Th0r]

how come the other scores won't show????

[Steven4563]

coz he didnt run them tests

as for that score F*** man im impressed i think he should use a Athlon 64 and overclock the hell out off that

[Th0r]

why didn't he run them...do u get a higher mark by doing that???

[El<(')>Maxi]

Alot of guys bench only the first four tests as they are the only ones relevant to the final score. I think they just get tired of watching all tests run and the time it takes.

As to A64, several setups over at extreme with very nice overclocks on processor/Radeon can't touch this new score by the EE. It looks like Intel has another good chip.

A64 FX version? The verdict is still out.


Maxi~

[Overclocker550]

the ee loses to the a64, he only beat them because he has an ungodly overclock of 4.46GHz. match a 3GHz a64 with that and we shall see :)

[Dc5e]

his score is going to be 10x mine if he breaks 30k!!! :eek:

[9mmCensor]

umm thats some serious scorage... whats he using to cooling his chip?

[Steven4563]

properly a prommy

[mage_x]

evidently his score is because of the 9800XT, the scores below him are all 9800Pro

i think once someone with an a64 gets an xt they will break 30k

[Zim2411]

GAH!! I only get 10,000 or so! NOT FAIR!

GIVE ME THAT XT!!!!!

[9mmCensor]

Originally posted by mage_x
evidently his score is because of the 9800XT, the scores below him are all 9800Pro

i think once someone with an a64 gets an xt they will break 30k

and some insane cooling

[shiyan]

most top 3DMark guys use extreme cooling on both the GPU and CPU, so probably something like Mach 2s for both CPU and GPU.

looks like 30k will fall pretty soon...

edit: looks like the he was using a R507 modded Mach 1 for cooling the CPU, and a "R404 Americold 1/2HP with one of my blocks on it" to cool the 9800XT.

he seems to have an even higher one now, 29263: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7181942

[Steven4563]

wow look likes hes going for 30k then :)

[shiyan]

30k will probably fall within a few days. Looks like all he needs is to get a different motherboard.

This is the thread over at XS: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21722

[9mmCensor]

custom cascade... is that one of those special edition silver ones?

[shiyan]

I'm not sure, but I think he might actually mean a different sort of cascade, which is where you hook up 2 or more phase change cooling systems together to freeze a lot colder than you'd be able to with just one phase change system.

I doubt he's using watercooling, although it is not impossible.

Looking at his overclock I'm guessing that he means the phase change cascade though...

[pkrew]

Amaizing overclock. If he breaks 30,000 it will have to depend on for the most part on his cpu overclock. 2001SE is very cpu dependant esp if you have a card like a 9800pro or XT. After a point the test saturates and you get very little increase with increasing the cards overclock. The only thing that gives a higher score is more cpu speed.

[9mmCensor]

Ahh, that makes sense. I have never heard of that kind of cascade. thanks for the info.

[Overclocker550]

he still wants to max out the card for every last point. I just heard he is gonna now v mod the ram and see if he can get another 100 marks or so. then hes gonna try a different mobo and see if this helps any. I doubt he can break 30k though unless he gets like 4.7 to 4.8GHz on the cpu :eek:

[shiyan]

here are 2 threads that handle phase change cascades:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14231

http://www.phase-change.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=961

[pkrew]

I hope he makes it. Damn thats a fast system

[pkrew]

$hit, I just saw his score on 3dmark03. Over 9000. He's got his XT at 596/434 :eek:

[9mmCensor]

read through that tread at xtream systems, and he is using a cascade setup. on what seems to be an engineering sample chip as it is an unlocked P4-EE 3.2GHz

[Falcon-K]

wow...it didnt seem like that long ago when someone broke 20k

[9mmCensor]

He should fold with that thing.

[treepop]

so your saying thats a processor thats not even going to be released....since it's unlocked.....the p4EE thats being released wont be unlocked?.......also I think thats all spiffy and stuff about his score but check this out................................
256 meg 9800XT + a never going to be released unlocked p4EE(locked version going to cost $900 or so) 32bit!!! processor at 4.5ghz is only 234 3dmarks better then a $400 3200+ 64bit!!!!! processor with an older 128meg 9800 pro at 2.6gHz??

[uclajd]

Originally posted by Overclocker550
the ee loses to the a64, he only beat them because he has an ungodly overclock of 4.46GHz.
That's like saying "that guy's Ferrari only beat my Porsche because his engine revved higher." :p

[treepop]

na he only beat him because he had a radeon 9800XT....the rest of my aformentioned points aside....co$t etc... the only reason it beats it is the 9800XT get me an A64 with a 9800XT say hello to 30k! ;)

[squads]

i wanna see 10k in 2k3 more than 30k in 2k1 cause 2k1 is outdated

[pkrew]

Originally posted by treepop
na he only beat him because he had a radeon 9800XT....the rest of my aformentioned points aside....co$t etc... the only reason it beats it is the 9800XT get me an A64 with a 9800XT say hello to 30k! ;)

Well, not really. There's only about a 100 point difference between the 9800pro and the XT in 2001SE. Clock speed for clock speed of course. The reason, 2001SE is old and both of these cards tend to max it out. After that its all cpu and memory speed.

[Bengan]

Well, the 3.2EE is cheaper than the FX because of the same socket, no need to change mobo and is not going to be needing ecc reg mem for another xxx$.
So i think this --->
"256 meg 9800XT + a never going to be released unlocked p4EE(locked version going to cost $900 or so) 32bit!!! processor at 4.5ghz is only 234 3dmarks better then a $400 3200+ 64bit!!!!! processor with an older 128meg 9800 pro at 2.6gHz??"

Is rather stupid...

[pkrew]

Actually, I'm trying to figure out where the 234 came from. The closest score to his is 28031, which is an Anthlon 64, but that's 1232 points not 234.

[Commander_Kang]

Show me the game bench marks so what if it can do car chase low at over 400fps.I want to see Ut2003 at 1280x1024 with max Anisotropic and AA and see what kind of frame rate it gets.

[treepop]

well I think I might of messed the math... it's not a fx thats the closest it's a a 64 3200+......also $400+ $200 is $600 which is an a64 + mobo ddr ram is not neaded to be reg......$600 < $900 + ............and is 64 bit

[Speed_Mechanic2]

well I think I might of messed the math... it's not a fx thats the closest it's a a 64 3200+......also $400+ $200 is $600 which is an a64 + mobo ddr ram is not neaded to be reg......$600 < $900 + ............and is 64 bit

Most believe that A64 3200+ is pretty much topped out for now. With the multipliers available only 10 and below, and FSB problems with all Via KT800 chipset motherboards, there's not much more the A64 3200+ can get out of it then the highest it's at right now. While the P4EE and FX-51 havn't yet begun to search for their highest scores.

[BigRed]

Originally posted by 9mmCensor
thanks for the info.
:D :D :D

http://www.bigredwa.com/Forums/thanksfortheinfo.jpg

[Overclocker550]

he broke 28k 2 days ago and 29k yesterday, itll be amazing if he breaks 30k later today. He tends to wake up late and begin benching around noon. I know he did a vmod to the ram now so he may be able to buy enough marks to be at 29.5k then if his new mobo helps enough for 500 marks........

[Steven4563]

wow its still crazy i thought i was doing good when i nearly hit 18k lol

[Overclocker550]

if you overclock your video and cpu higher you can get 20k but since your 9700 isnt a pro it wont be easy! ill be not far behind you on a ti4200 LOL

[Steven4563]

yes but overclocker550 i had a Ti4200 and when i played with AA and AF on i couldnt play games that well u try turning on AA and AF to the max off your card and tell me what they are and ill benchmark with u and see how far behind u are then :P

[Melhisedek]

Man that 9800 XT is sick !!! Did you saw his results in 3dMark03 ???

He benched it with 597 MHz on Core !!! That is insane !!!

[Overclocker550]

Originally posted by Steven4563
yes but overclocker550 i had a Ti4200 and when i played with AA and AF on i couldnt play games that well u try turning on AA and AF to the max off your card and tell me what they are and ill benchmark with u and see how far behind u are then :P


the point is I dont really like aa/af so its pretty much useless to me and not a consideration so lets both play with aa/af off or if you turn aa/af on ill be very close behind you if I dont use aa/af and you do use aa/af. basically you get aa/af for free which I have no need for

[Th0r]

i think the CPU is bottlenecked by the graphics card personaly.....

[Steven4563]

Originally posted by Overclocker550



the point is I dont really like aa/af so its pretty much useless to me and not a consideration so lets both play with aa/af off or if you turn aa/af on ill be very close behind you if I dont use aa/af and you do use aa/af. basically you get aa/af for free which I have no need for

thats great for u coz i do play with AA and AF on i can not play without it i like my games to be smooth

well ill tell u what how about if we do it at 1280*1024 ??

both got to have cpu at same speed :P stock maybe ?

[dropadrop]

That's quite an amazing accomplishment!

[CamH]

*coughs* I wonder if Overclocker550 has ever seen a game with AA/AF applied. I'm thinking the answer to that is no...


How can anyone not like it?!

[9mmCensor]

I want to see what OPP's AMD setup will do when he maxes it out...

[uclajd]

Originally posted by Speed_Mechanic2
Most believe that A64 3200+ is pretty much topped out for now. With the multipliers available only 10 and below, and FSB problems with all Via KT800 chipset motherboards, there's not much more the A64 3200+ can get out of it then the highest it's at right now. While the P4EE and FX-51 havn't yet begun to search for their highest scores.
Thank you. Fugger just started to bench, with a less-than-ideal rig. He is moving to a P4C 800 if I am not mistaken.

And we have yet to see a 3.4 EE in action...

[TheGr8s1]

Originally posted by CamH
*coughs* I wonder if Overclocker550 has ever seen a game with AA/AF applied. I'm thinking the answer to that is no...


How can anyone not like it?!
I agree with that statement. The quality of images are far greater with AA/AF on and to have a radeon that still performs well is the icing on the cake.

[Speed_Mechanic2]

"FUGGER" -
My ee is unlocked 8~16

I maxed out the CPU with my Mach1 @ 3.27GHz (exceptional R507 Mach1) and from the start of nature (error mode beyond -53c) it would drag my temps down down to -20c on the display at the end of Nature. The EE puts off a lot more heat.

You need to be able to seriously cool your P4EE to have it perform. It's putting off alot of heat compared to a P4C.

[#18]

ah Radeon 9800XT...

stupid NeverWinter Nights took away my soul for the last 2 months. Didn't know there is such a new card came out.

Thought I have all the latest.

Time to upgrade :)

[snyper1982]

Originally posted by TheGr8s1

I agree with that statement. The quality of images are far greater with AA/AF on and to have a radeon that still performs well is the icing on the cake.

he think resolution is a substitute, and that partialy true, the higher the res, the less jaggies, but there will STILL be jaggies, aa gets rid of them, but as for af, he must be blind to not see that it looks much nicer. im getting tired of hearing the same old argument from him about his ti4200. well you play with aa and af on, i will play with it off. thats retarded, both card need to have the same settings or else it is pointless. get over it man, your ti4200 is yesterdays news. get with the program. your ti4200 is good for 2 things, playing OLD games, and running OLD benchmarks. here is a test, run 3dmark03 and see what you get. hhahahaha

[madcow235]

Why does no one ever use Athlon FX's im sure if they got some nice ECC ram they could probably break 30k

[shiyan]

ECC RAM does not like overclocking that much.

the FX is way too expensive. (although the EE is even more expensive.)

one of the guys at xtreme is gonna try 3DMarking with one though.

[nimrod0031]

Jason57570 is also setting up a killer fx rig at 3dmaxx.net when his mobo arrives and saturntr from 3dmaxx is putting an a64 on dry ice with a 9800xt

I highly doubt fugger will break 30k with that p4. Everything on there is pretty much maxed even for his -70c temps:eek:

I think the real fun will start when san diego arrives

[Overclocker550]

Jason will probably break 27k marks :)

[nimrod0031]

he will get 27k easy...he is already at 26.8k with his a64.

I'm looking for jay to be chasing down that p4ee:D

[Perre]

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[KILLorBE]

Originally posted by Perre
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New link --> 29391 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7206962).

[9mmCensor]

Yeah, no way hes gonna hit 30k with that system, its spent.

[shiyan]

Gotta love those temps, -90C for CPU and -50C for GPU....

[Overclocker550]

oppainter is at 29k and right behind fugger! I havent seen any updates lately so I guess both champs have maxed everything out. The one guy who benched with the athlon fx at 2.88GHz got only 27k so the a64 is faster than the athlon fx otherwise more people would bench with it, but nearly all scores are with athlon 64's anyway soon, if not already amd should have an xp3400+ at 2.2GHz and maybe itll oc better and we could see 30k if any of the champs can get around 3GHz

[StormPC]

Originally posted by Dc5e
his score is going to be 10x mine if he breaks 30k!!! :eek:

Not mine. He will beat me by less than 30% with a CPU clock more than 120% higher and a 9800XT video card clocked through the f**kin' roof!:p

He just barely beats OPPAINTER (200 point's is nothing when you're talking more than 29200-29400 points). Not exactly ownage.

The fact that Intel's P4 chip can keep up with an AMD A64 running at half the speed is not that impressive. And need I remind you that Fugger's chip is not something you or anyone else can EVER own no matter how much money you have. The A64 is available everywhere. Fantasy is often better than reality, but it doesn't put food on the table now, does it!:D

[StormPC]

Originally posted by Overclocker550
The one guy who benched with the athlon fx at 2.88GHz got only 27k so the a64 is faster than the athlon fx otherwise more people would bench with it,

Not true at all. The cost and limited availability of the FX systems make it very difficult to bench them, so only a very few elite have even tried it. The FX is much faster clock for clock than an A64, but nobody with the resources is that great at overclocking and tweaking at this point in time. Had Fugger or OPP been inclined to try to put together an FX system (I believe they will eventually) I am sure you'd see an FX at the top right now.

The 90nm San Diegos are gonna rock though. They don't have the ECC limitations of the FX, making them much more overclocker friendly. These things will be rockets.:cool:

[9mmCensor]

Originally posted by StormPC

Fugger's chip is not something you or anyone else can EVER own no matter how much money you have

Not true. anything is availible, if you have enough money. I i called up Intel and said give me a P4EE 3.2 (or the 3.4) with an unlocked multi and i will give you 100,000 dollars. they will give me the chip and take my money and laugh.

[Overclocker550]

you bet Intel would laugh, heck if they declined the $100,000 offer I would laugh at how dumb Intel is. an engineering sample wont hurt intel if it gets in our hands, its the same thing just unlocked basically for in house testing

[Mr_H]

This thread makesme want to cry...:rolleyes:

I see people in here complaining about how they could never score that high, and they only score 10,000 or so points with 9600's (No Overclock or what?) I'm looking for ways to break 20,000 with my 9500 Non-Pro currently at 18,753 3dmarks

System Specs

Asus P4P800 Deluxe
Intel 2.4c @ 3.4Ghz
GeIL 512 Value PC3200 (Need better ram, any suggestions?)
Sapphire 9500 128DDR Non-Pro (Omega Drivers 2.4.96c)
Soft-Mod 378/303 (Using Stock Cooling, Need to get ram sinks)

Please Help

[nimrod0031]

Originally posted by StormPC


Not mine. He will beat me by less than 30% with a CPU clock more than 120% higher and a 9800XT video card clocked through the f**kin' roof!:p

He just barely beats OPPAINTER (200 point's is nothing when you're talking more than 29200-29400 points). Not exactly ownage.

The fact that Intel's P4 chip can keep up with an AMD A64 running at half the speed is not that impressive. And need I remind you that Fugger's chip is not something you or anyone else can EVER own no matter how much money you have.

P4 and AMD use a different architecture in their chips...how can you hold it against one company for te way they like to design there chips....its not like its slow or anything. I have heard that time and time again.

And fuggers chip is an ES and you can own one you just have to know where to buy them. And ES chips are generally not the best overclockers.

Mr_HeNtAi
the 9500 is better in 2k1 than the 9600 thats why those people are havin trouble. Plus their cpu might not be up to par. The 9500 can also be soft-modded.

[#18]

Can he run all his programs(include games) with those settings? Or just for a show? :)

With the scores side by side in compare url, I feel like at least 1 year behind in technology. In fact it's all because the difference between a first class overclocker(extreme ocing) and a second class overclocker(on air).