1.33 or the 1ghz

[Trinity]

I am stuck deciding between these two chips. I am not too strapped for cash but I want to know which chip will o'c better and with more stability. I want to but the chip on a Epox 8K7A.

[oc jason]

well according to Daniel who tested all the chips-1gig 1.13, 1.2, 1.3, 1.33 200 and 266 chips and said that there was no difference between the 2, some of the 1 gig 200's beat out the 1.33 266 chips-its just all in the core- basically its the same core. Get a retail 1gig 200, unlock it and youll be happy, and they are under $99, -retail is better than OEM cause OEM is like $15 more cause it comes in a fancy factory BOX and you really dont need that. hope this helped

[Subzer0]

[OC] Jason (Jul 14, 2001 12:18 p.m.):
well according to Daniel who tested all the chips-1gig 1.13, 1.2, 1.3, 1.33 200 and 266 chips and said that there was no difference between the 2, some of the 1 gig 200's beat out the 1.33 266 chips-its just all in the core- basically its the same core. Get a retail 1gig 200, unlock it and youll be happy, and they are under $99, -retail is better than OEM cause OEM is like $15 more cause it comes in a fancy factory BOX and you really dont need that. hope this helped

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hey man dont you mean oem is better than retail cause its $15 cheaper?
LOL

[Superman53142]

Since the 266FSB is the same price as the 200FSB, why get the 200FSB if they're "all the same core anyway"?

[TranceBear]

Superman53142 (Jul 14, 2001 02:08 p.m.):
Since the 266FSB is the same price as the 200FSB, why get the 200FSB if they're "all the same core anyway"?

Too get the higher mutipliers, see sig. I ALWAYS recommend the 200mhz fsb, you have more room to play with. Why buy a 1.3 at a higher price when most the !giggers will do better?

[Randy]

I have a 1 Ghz Axia 266 fsb and with the Iwill KK266 I have multipliers up to 12.5 avalible. Why do you say that the 200 fsb is better? I think the 1Ghz 266 is the way to go at newegg.com their under a hundred bucks for an oem and if you get lucky and get an Axia
you can pretty much bet on 1400 to 1450 mhz stable with good cooling (air)
Randy
I need to update the sys. specs Hsf is now SK6 with delta 38cfm

[oc jason]

TranceBear (Jul 14, 2001 03:51 p.m.):
Superman53142 (Jul 14, 2001 02:08 p.m.):
Since the 266FSB is the same price as the 200FSB, why get the 200FSB if they're "all the same core anyway"?

Too get the higher mutipliers, see sig. I ALWAYS recommend the 200mhz fsb, you have more room to play with. Why buy a 1.3 at a higher price when most the !giggers will do better?

thanks bear- thats what i mean no reason to get a 1.3 for more money when the 1 gig will beat it-and the 200 does have a chance of a higher multiplier-but i did get the OEM vs RETAIL thing backwards...LOL

[TranceBear]

Randy (Jul 14, 2001 04:04 p.m.):
I have a 1 Ghz Axia 266 fsb and with the Iwill KK266 I have multipliers up to 12.5 avalible. Why do you say that the 200 fsb is better? I think the 1Ghz 266 is the way to go at newegg.com their under a hundred bucks for an oem and if you get lucky and get an Axia
you can pretty much bet on 1400 to 1450 mhz stable with good cooling (air)
Randy
I need to update the sys. specs Hsf is now SK6 with delta 38cfm

I have multiplyers up to 15, that is why. I have a chance to go higher if I can keep this little sucker cool.

[Trinity]

Thanks Guys, Pcnut.com is offering a 1ghz axia with a epox-8K7A. I guess the 1ghz is a better o'cer but is the performance better than the 1.33 oc'ed?

[Randy]

TranceBear (Jul 14, 2001 06:32 p.m.):
Randy (Jul 14, 2001 04:04 p.m.):
I have a 1 Ghz Axia 266 fsb and with the Iwill KK266 I have multipliers up to 12.5 avalible. Why do you say that the 200 fsb is better? I think the 1Ghz 266 is the way to go at newegg.com their under a hundred bucks for an oem and if you get lucky and get an Axia
you can pretty much bet on 1400 to 1450 mhz stable with good cooling (air)
Randy
I need to update the sys. specs Hsf is now SK6 with delta 38cfm

I have multiplyers up to 15, that is why. I have a chance to go higher if I can keep this little sucker cool.

Trance, is the higher multiplyer due to your board and BIOS or the 200 fsb chip? I may be learning something here. Thanks,
Randy

[bionic]

I say go the 1.33

I've had 2 1 gig AXIA's, both topped out at around 1400 (1.85v + air cooling)

Currently I've got a 1.33 AYHJA, and its quite happily running all day on 1550. In fact, it runs AOK at 1650 too - only thing is my (copper) heatsink cant handle the heat load at that speed (90+ watts!)

If you can afford the 1.33, definately go for it !

[Trinity]

Did you find it easier to o'c clock the 1.33 than the axia or was it the same? How are your temps, higher than the 1ghz. Did your performance go up?

[TranceBear]

Randy (Jul 15, 2001 09:11 p.m.):
TranceBear (Jul 14, 2001 06:32 p.m.):
Randy (Jul 14, 2001 04:04 p.m.):
I have a 1 Ghz Axia 266 fsb and with the Iwill KK266 I have multipliers up to 12.5 avalible. Why do you say that the 200 fsb is better? I think the 1Ghz 266 is the way to go at newegg.com their under a hundred bucks for an oem and if you get lucky and get an Axia
you can pretty much bet on 1400 to 1450 mhz stable with good cooling (air)
Randy
I need to update the sys. specs Hsf is now SK6 with delta 38cfm

I have multiplyers up to 15, that is why. I have a chance to go higher if I can keep this little sucker cool.

Trance, is the higher multiplyer due to your board and BIOS or the 200 fsb chip? I may be learning something here. Thanks,
Randy


it is my chip allowing that, but my BIOS determines the multiplyer. It just reads the chip as a 200mhz fsb and displays the multiplyers accordingly. Like on the 1.4ghz 200mhz fsb, default multiplyer is 14x100mhz, on a 266mhz chip it is 10.5x133mhz. I think I may try a 1.4 200mhzfsb. If I run it at a 133mhz fsb, it should post as a 1862mhz (14x133mhz), with heavy cooling. In theory though.

[oc jason]

right a 1.4 266 chip would be at like 11x133 but a 200 chip will be 14x100, that way you can take use of the 14x and with goodk cooling get the FSB up above 133 also-i doubt a 266 chip with an 11x would ever do 133 with good cooling

still the 1.33 has a higher total speed and a higher average speed than the 1 gig in the cpu database- get the 1.33, core is same but seems to clock higher -i guess cause the overall speed is higher

[bionic]

Did you find it easier to o'c clock the 1.33 than the axia or was it the same? How are your temps, higher than the 1ghz. Did your performance go up?

Temps were a bit lower on the AYHJA. Is it because of improvements in the core stepping noted on overclockers.com ? maybe. All i can tell you is the 1.33 went to higher speeds much more easily.

Incidentally I'm running an A7M so unfortunately I can't adjust the multiplier at the moment. I've considered modding the board, but seeing as the system will run fine* at 165 FSB cas 2, there doesnt seem to be much point.

* (it would run fine that way if the temps were kept low - this has been confirmed by experiment)

Is there much noticable difference between 1400 Mhz and 1650 ? to be honest - not really. There might be if you had an overclocked GF3 to pair it up with, but my "crappy" 32mb GTS is rapidly becoming a bottleneck in this machine.

[Trinity]

Thanks, I guess I will go with the 1.33 since I have the money. Plus, I don't have to unlock it and the technology on the chip is a little more advanced than the 1ghz.