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Pitspawn
07-18-01, 04:23 PM
I've been trying to overclock my system for soooo damn long now. I've
never put so much time, effort and money into getting a system to run
faster. Upgrading the ram, mobo, case, graphics card, sound card all
make your overall system performance increase. But these things do
not help one thing, raw processing speed. For this your processor does
the work. I upgraded from a 650@750 Classic Athlon Slot A 0.18C to
the 1100Mhz AMD TB. For a while I was happy. Then I started to notice
that my pc was not top notch anymore, I tried to overclock. I failed. So I left
it for a while but I felt left behind. I tried to overclock again, nothing. By now
I was annoyed. This time I tried EVERYTHING. I mean, theres almost
nothing I haven't tried. There are only two things I havent done. Bought a
really high rated psu to use, or tried overclocking through multiplier.
So I figure, my 1.1Ghz chip must be crap.

Here is the core details...

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Here is every detail about my system...

Locked AJFA 1100Mhz @ Max Stable 1166 (106x11.0)
7k Delta Thermosonic Engine Hollow Core w/ 80mm doppler fan
(Makes delta run at 7600rpm)
Two Case fans, Case OPEN
ABit KT7A w/ latest 3R BIOS & Latest VIA Drivers
256MB RAM PC133@133 (2-2-2-6)
Hercules GeForce3 220Mhz / 500Mhz (Official 12.40 Det Drivers)
IBM 45Gb 7200rpm Deskstar HDD ATA 100
SoundBlaster Live! Platinum (Latest drivers and 686b fixes)
3COM TCP base/10 network card
Dynamode 56k modem
52xCreative CDROM
One generic floppy drive
300W Generic PSU on Mobo and HDD
230W Generic PSU on all other parts
Operating system Win98 (not SE)
19" IIyama Vision Master Pro 451 Monitor

Ok now thats the specifications, here is what I've tried...

1100@1100 1.75v 3.3v 3-3-3-7 Normal = Stable
1100@1111 1.75v 3.3v 3-3-3-7 Normal = Stable
1100@1122 1.75v 3.3v 3-3-3-7 Normal = Stable
1100@1133 1.75v 3.3v 3-3-3-7 Normal = Stable
1100@1144 1.75v 3.3v 3-3-3-7 Normal = Stable
1100@1155 1.75v 3.3v 3-3-3-7 Normal = Registry Fail
1100@1155 1.78v 3.3v 3-3-3-7 Normal = Stable
1100@1166 1.78v 3.3v 3-3-3-7 Normal = Stable
1100@1177 1.78v 3.3v 3-3-3-7 Normal = Unstable
1100@1188 1.78v 3.3v 3-3-3-7 Normal = Registry Fail
1100@1188 1.80v 3.3v 3-3-3-7 Normal = Unstable
1100@1188 1.82v 3.3v 3-3-3-7 Normal = Unstable
1100@1188 1.85v 3.3v 3-3-3-7 Normal = Unstable
1100@1188 1.89v 3.4v 3-3-3-7 Normal = UnStable
1100@1199 1.85v 3.3v 3-3-3-7 Normal = Registry Fail
1100@1210 1.85v 3.3v 3-3-3-7 Normal = Really bad things happen :)

Highest Stable Setting...
1100@1166 1.78v 3.3v 2-2-2-6 Turbo = Stable

Ok here are my temps...
1.75v ... Ambient 26ºC || Case 29ºC || Idle 37ºC || Load 41ºC
1.78v ... Ambient 26ºC || Case 30ºC || Idle 38ºC || Load 41ºC
1.80v ... Ambient 26ºC || Case 30ºC || Idle 38ºC || Load 42ºC
1.82v ... Ambient 26ºC || Case 30ºC || Idle 38ºC || Load 43ºC
1.85v ... Ambient 26ºC || Case 30ºC || Idle 39ºC || Load 43ºC
1.89v ... Ambient 26ºC || Case 32ºC || Idle ~39ºC || Load ~43ºC

Is f*ck is wrong with my system? Have I got a bad chip or is it something
else?

Pitspawn
07-18-01, 04:56 PM
bump

Paul -The Mad Hatter
07-18-01, 04:57 PM
No your chip is not bad because it runs at the speed that amd spec'd it for. I hate to be an ass but there are no garentee's in overclocking. I guess you could try upgrading your ps.

WillysNut
07-18-01, 06:18 PM
ave you ever tried a another CPU on the board?

GERRY136
07-18-01, 06:25 PM
sounds like a rokn system i would love to have....
will be watching the outcome!

joey_rjm5
07-19-01, 12:56 AM
It's not uncommon that a better psu can solve an issue.

Or your proc just won't go any higher. :)

erickkk
07-19-01, 01:37 AM
Unlock your multiplier, I think 1300 is available ;-)

Pitspawn
07-19-01, 06:44 AM
Yes I've tried unlocking my processor three times with different pencils. It looks like Im going to have to resort to conductive pen w/ toothpick. God hope that dont go wrong though because Im not sure I have the stuff to remove it from the bridges.

Pitspawn
07-19-01, 11:32 AM
Oh yeah another question. If its not my cpu, is it my chipset. I know that the KT7 mobo had fsb problems. Thats why I upgraded to the KT7A version. Does anyone have a KT7A, if so whats your FSB?

(Basically I want to know if > 110FSB is possible with my mobo)

collindv
07-19-01, 12:40 PM
My KT7A will run 110 FSB with no problem. Actually had an 800 Duron running at 880 (8*110).

rugby
07-19-01, 02:24 PM
I tried to post a pic, but my computer's acting weird. ANyways, I've got a Duron 750 running at 7.5x138 fpr 1035mhz. This chip isn't even unlocked yet!

Pitspawn
07-19-01, 04:50 PM
Well, tonight has been an emotional night to say the least.

Tonight, I decided to unlock my processor for the fourth time. This time I used a REALLY sharp 6B with a florecent tube for lighting. I booted up and changed the multiplier to 12x. I expected 1100Mhz to show, 1200Mhz showed up. I was excstatic. I changed some settings in bios and booted into windows, no problem. I noticed idle temps were about 1-1.5ºC higher than normal, I thought hell my friend runs his 1.1Ghz chip at 52ºC, 38ºC has to be fine. I rebooted. I upped the fsb this time with the multiplier at 12. My computer posted at 1236Mhz. This was the highest frequency i've ever seen in front of me for a post, I was happy. But then crash. Windows went. I restored registry and upped the voltage. It got worse. I restored registry again. I downed the voltage and frequency. It crashed. I realised I was in a mess.

After a lot of tweaking I have finally got a stable frequency...1100Mhz
After all that, I'm back at factory settings. Its my AFJA chip, it doesnt like temps greater than 40ºC. So I've decided, Im going to wait for my next pay cheque and I'm prolly going to buy an 1.2Ghz AYJHA 266FSB and an SK-6 and clock it to 1.4Ghz or something. If I get the same problems this time, I'm going to kill someone. I am now frightened to run Seti@Home.