Duron's Limit

[KevDaMan]

I currently have a p3 500 katami which dont overclock well + my board wont run above 112fsb so I am thinking of buying another board and a duron processor I want to hit the 1ghz or blow by it. I would like to hear the highest duron overclock + if any 1 knows what the duron limit is like 950mhz core or will this core reach 1.4ghz?

[rugby]

HI there. I don' think Durons can hit that high. 1100 seems to be the high-end voltage-modded, watercooled setup. I had a Duron 650 and now have a 750 and they both hit around 1050 max without voltage modification. My thinking is, AMD is going to milk the Duron for a little longer (they are getting 1ghz Durons out now) and then have a different core because they're getting to the max on these chips. After that change, maybe you could get a 1.4 oc, but this is entirely speculation on my part and subject to reality.

[Kev]

i agree.....all of the current durons ive heard about have not yet reached 1.2+, or at least with great difficulty.....remember, they are budget CPUs....they still perform amazing though...i prefer them to Athlons.....athlons are like $hit in a field - they're everywhere.

[FRANK]

If you can find one of the older "AKBA" core 600 / 650's, you can be just about assured to hit 1100MHz with the appropriate motherboard, cooling etc. I currently have a couple 600's at or above 1100MHz, air cooled. Much better return on my investment than either my 650 or my 1.2 T-BIRDS.

[lemmingboy]

I agree, typically you don't see past 1050-1100 without some really exstream cooling and mods

I think that almost all durons are made in Austin, which is not as good a fab as Dresden, this could explain the limit.

[merlins_wraith]

With mine it took some severe cooling and alot more juice to go from 950 to 1gig. It is just a matter of how much you want to invest in a cpu when you could spend that exact same amount for 1gig+ Tbird. But you have to start somewhere.

[William]

The 1ghz athlons are now in the sub $100 range, you can get one and with good aircooling get it to run at 1.4 ghz. A duron is going to maz you at 1.2ghz.

[chaosdriven]

1050 not bad for a $30.00 processor though......

[NeoMoses]

well, i've spent some time in the CPU database, and I'll just give you a quick overview.

Duron 600 Average overclocked speed - 946 Mhz
Duron 650 Average overclocked speed - 910 Mhz
Duron 700 Average overclocked speed - 948 Mhz
Duron 750 Average overclocked speed - 964 Mhz
...you should check it out yourself. there is soooo much to look at, like cooling, voltage, mobo...

You'll end up spending more for the cooling than for the processor. Pricewatch has D700s and D750s for $24 today. you'll likely spend $50 on a good HSF, so i'd start off with one of these cheap processors and not worry too much about roasting it. I think you'll like the Duron, it's a good processor. I'm completely happy with my Duron 900.

[Carmine_Paterno]

Only if i had more VOLTAGE! Make sure if you get a new mobo....get one with either a voltage mod...or can already goto 2v. I am stuck @ 1.888v, and i had to do the mod to the processor. I am extremely happy with my o/c, but i would like 1050.

I mean i love my A7A266. Its great, and mad fast. But only if i had more volts.

I love durons! I haven;t messed with a t-bird yet....but i hope too.

[rugby]

more volts don't automatically translate into more mhz. I could hit the same speed you hit without a voltage mod but needed the extra voltage to get ANY higher and look where I am. I could boot at 1066 but would restart after a couple of seconds into windows. OH yeah, and I"m also water-cooled.

[dozier768]

i've got a 900 duron and it wont go stable past 1.1 but i havent modded the voltage yet and i am running a watercooler

[wild_andy_c]

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[Bender]

Ok wild_andy_c its time to let us know your little secret. Is this a copper interconnect 1G duron like I am predicting?

[AtomicGuY]

Duron 1GHz is copper interconnect but yea, that probally what he has. My friend Shane is building him self a 1GHz Duron system today and he's got 1GHz Duron in da house!!! Its got the same stepping as Duron 950MHz thou but it should be able to hit at least 1.4GHz!

[Bender]

Where did he get the 1g duron? If the prices are low I may do that instead of a 1.2 athlon.

[AtomicGuY]

He got it from bestcomp and sales computer store. He paid $118.99 CAN + TAX
118.99 CAN is like $79.00 American.

[Bender]

Not bad does the core look any different in shape than a normal duron?

[AtomicGuY]

looks the same, but Can you tell if its copperinterconnects or not? The core looks shinny blue on the surface.

LOL

think it could be morgan?, thabt be sweet but I dont think so

:(

[Bender]

I think the Morgan core is more of a rectangle than the duron. I think the blue color has to do with were it was made, not necessarily what it is made out of. I still hope it is copper for your friends sake and mine.

[AtomicGuY]

No hope now, Remeber when AMD said that they were delaying there Road Map which means yet 1 more T-bird and Spitfire or whatever Duron is.
So Athlon 1.53GHz and Duron 1GHz should be the same again. Besides, I guess it seems ok thou since 1.4GHz Athlon processors hit 1.53GHz easily even at defualt voltage. The 1.53GHz and 1.5GHz processors will have the same stepping and code as the 1.4GHz processor has.

[OC-Master]

1.33GHz Athlon = 53c
1.40GHz Athlon = 55c

So in my conclusion, RIP T-Bird as of August this year. Make way for palomino.

[OC-Master]

btw,
Morgen is already out kinda, just very hard to find!
Its only avail at 950MHz as far as I know but should be at 1GHz when AMD releases 1.6GHz Palomino.

[wild_andy_c]

Morgan isn't out at all. Although that chip is morgan.

Expect 1Ghz Duron to be the same as 950Mhz Duron - that is don't expect it to be extruded in Dresden and don't expect too much from it. It will probably do about 1120Mhz tops - not 1.62Ghz!!!


assumptions, assumptions...........

[dozier768]

check this out i just got to 1124mhz and bumped the core down to 1.8v and its running rock solid it would only do 1103mhz last week. strange huh

[dozier768]

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[LesterP]

seems like many AKBA can make it over 1.1. i bought a 650 as a backup on a fs/ft forum and it turned out to be an AKBA - does 1215 at 1.9v (water cooled) very stable. 35 dollar chip - blows my mind.

[OC-Master]

The 1.3GHz Duron is the last of the Durons. Say hello to the 1600+ and 1700+ XPs that are very cheap in price.


OC-Master

[Shade00]

Mon dieu, this thread is ancient! Had to pull out the compressed air just to get the dust off...

[john240sx]

i have a 750Mhz ANDA stepping Duron. i've had it upto 1.2Ghz but i couldn't get into wondows with it like that though. i was at 1070Mhz stable in windows, i didn't get any further becase i upgraded to a XP1600 a few days later.

here a link to the 3DMark score i got with it at 1070Mhz http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=3946022

right now that Duron is at 931Mhz (7X133).

Originally posted by Shade00
Mon dieu, this thread is ancient! Had to pull out the compressed air just to get the dust off...

lol, i didn't even look at the date before i posted.

[OC-Master]

Originally posted by Shade00
Mon dieu, this thread is ancient! Had to pull out the compressed air just to get the dust off...


But now we really know the limits of the Duron only a year and a half later ;)


OC-Master

[R4z0r4mu5 Pr|m3]

I'm pretty happy with my duron 1 ghz morgan core, i have a K7S5A with a overclockable bios with limited options, set the fsb to 124 and it's running stable...99% of the time at 1240mhz.

[Shade00]

Haha, you're right OC-Master, we do know the limits of the Duron. Too bad it's all but dead now... I've got a little Duron 1.2 right here that needs a good home... maybe I'll order a mobo for it and put it to foldin'. Long live the Duron!

[v8vega350]

i got a fsb of 200 out of my 1.2 dubled the fsb and mhz i got 1450 on water @1.8 volts i thought is was pretty good for a sub 40$ chip

let the old thred live on

[TweaK-FreaK]

I've got my duron 1.2 @1.41 now

it does run at 1.48 but not completely stable....working on a duct to make it more stable

[papounet]

Here also a Duron 1.2 (AHLCA ?) relocked at 13x
On Asus A7V 1.02, FSB = 109 => 1417 Mhz
Voltage is 1.75V

Video artifact if FSB >=109