Help me cool down my room!

[AudiMan]

Are there any mini air conditioner units out there that are cheap and don't require maintenance, such as dumping the water very few hours?


My room temp is 27 degrees, and I have no windows to the outside. My parents like having the house warm and it's limiting my OC.

I just want something that points to the side of the case, blowing cool air. Even if it just reduces abient temps by 5 degrees I'll be happy.

[AudiMan]

If I put something like this next to my computer, would it cause any problems?

http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortments/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84552444280 2401&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374302200077&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374303514158&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374303514162&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374303514163&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374303514163&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474395348027&bmUID=1068678199167


I wonder how noisy they are.

[CrystalMethod]

Linky no work like you thought it would. It just defaults to the enter page.

[AudiMan]

Hm, works for me.

Let's try this:

http://images.canadiantire.ca/media/images/AroundtheHouse/HomeEnvironmentCare/AirConditioners/0435413_450_CC_1adfb.jpg

5,000 BTUs will cool an area of max. 160 sq. ft.
3-speed fan with 3 cool settings and four-way air direction for direct cool air
10-position adjustable thermostat for variable room temperature control
Slide-out chassis for easy installation
Pull-out air filter has washable filter for cleaner air circulation
Expandable window installation kit shutters accommodate a window width of 24½ - 37" (62 - 94 cm) and a height of 15½ (39 cm). Installation video included
10.7 (EER) Energy Efficiency Rating uses less energy and saves you money
Weighs 65 lbs (29.5 kg)
17¾ x 16 x 12½ " (45 x 41 x 32 cm)

[AudiMan]

Can this simply be placed near the computer?

[AudiMan]

OR maybe something like this possibly?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2358308018&category=20676

[RoadWarrior]

Well if you have no ventilation, any AC unit you get is just gonna make the problem worse. If they're say 75% efficient, and the unit draws a Kilowatt, then you've basically just added another 250W heater to the room, you need somewhere to dump the heat. You might SAY that doesn't matter and all you want is a stream of cold air for your PC to breathe, but when after running it a couple of hours your room hits 36C I don't think you'll be too happy about it.

Just try closing the damper on your heat vent, if that doesn't stop it much, take the faceplate off, draw around it on a cardboard box and cut out a gasket to fit under it, and put it back on.

regards,

Road Warrior

[RoadWarrior]

Umm that Ice Cream maker basically has a bowl shaped ice pack in it, no cooling parts at all.

[AudiMan]

Originally posted by RoadWarrior
Just try closing the damper on your heat vent, if that doesn't stop it much, take the faceplate off, draw around it on a cardboard box and cut out a gasket to fit under it, and put it back on.


Good Idea!!!! Why didn't I think of that :)


I'm in canada and we have sub-zero temps outside so hopefully my room will cool down to 18 degrees or so.

(I'm in the basement)

[AudiMan]

So I guess even if I get something like this it will also raise my room temps?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2358338080&category=20713


Even if I dremel a hole in the side for a 92mm or 120mm fan blowing directly at the side panel of my case?

Or this even:

http://www1.sears.ca/images/ma/products/46/4699342-0001L.jpg

General Features
Total Capacity (Cu./Ft.) 2.5
Size Less than 8.9 cu./ft.
Fresh Food Capacity (Cu./Ft.) 2.2
Freezer Capacity (Cu./Ft.) 0.3
Product Width (In.) 17.5
Product Height (In.)-Excluding hinge cover 26.6
Product Depth (In.)-Excluding handle 18.5

[RoadWarrior]

Heh, I've got a basement workshop right next to the furnace and there's a damn great heat vent right above my work table blowing down on my computer bits and down my neck, so that's what I had to do to it, because the damper was useless.

[sensai]

Originally posted by AudiMan



Good Idea!!!! Why didn't I think of that :)


I'm in canada and we have sub-zero temps outside so hopefully my room will cool down to 18 degrees or so.

(I'm in the basement)
if you got blinds like i do i just twist them so the cold air from windows falls.. just point blinds down.. if its too cold.. turn the blinds the other way.. kinda traps the cold to the window.

[sensai]

Originally posted by sensai

if you got blinds like i do i just twist them so the cold air from windows falls.. just point blinds down.. if its too cold.. turn the blinds the other way.. kinda traps the cold to the window. EDIT: it works on the same principle as a cold room :)

[AudiMan]

I have no windows in my room downstairs. :(


So the last pic/specs of the mini fridge that I posted,, how would that work out if I dremel a hole in the side?

[RoadWarrior]

Yeah, a fridge would still raise your rooms temps overall, the heat it sucks out of the air inside it has to go somewhere.

Best thing I can suggest, is to get one of those hot/cold powered coolers that are usually used in the car or for camping. They have a big peltier element in, run them one way, they suck heat from the inside and blow it out, run them the other way, and they suck heat from the outside air and dump it to the contents inside. So what you would have to do would be to find some containers that would fill the inside just nicely, maybe square section 4L milk jugs or something, get two or three "fills" worth of them. Then you fill them all with water, leave the spare set(s) outside, then run the cooler as a food warmer, and it will blow cool air out, meanwhile it will be heating up the water in your containers, when the water gets real hot, will probably not last all that long really, you go swap containers for the ones outside (which hopefully might be frozen solid) Thus, you are removing the heat from your room.

Alternatively, get a couple of long hosepipes and rig them out your door to your basement laundry sink, and have water slowly trickling into the cooler all the time, and draining off.

Or, if you want to get really good cooling in there for the winter, get a vehicle radiator with the fan mounted to it, that you can run off the 12V of an old AT PSU, then get a waterpump, a large one, maybe rip one out of an old dishwasher or washing machine, then rig that to two long hosepipes that go out of your room and find their way outside somewhere to a large oildrum or something filled with water. You will then have a fairly effectively watercooled room. You might need to dump some antifreeze in the water if it gets real cold and the heat in your room isn't keeping it thawed out.

regards,

Road Warrior

[omaticrail]

For a watercooled bedroom, bring a lawn sprinkler indoors. ;)

[AudiMan]

This is getting way too messy than it's worth for the extra few MHz.


I'll close the heat duct in my room tho. I hope it gets real cold :)

[Robrules18]

might be able to make a window.... one of my firends dad's put a window in their old house's basement, just gotta watch the walls weight bearings, would suck to bust your house down....

[trinketsummoner]

Originally posted by AudiMan
This is getting way too messy than it's worth for the extra few MHz.


I'll close the heat duct in my room tho. I hope it gets real cold :)

Its not cold enough until you can see your own breath :D

[sensai]

Atmospheric Decompression Hypothisis
the molecular displacement that the ionic discharge from particle acceleration is inversely proportional to the rate of acceleration of the velocity of the molecular mass of one proton across one nanometer at 0 degrees kelvin. Thus in order to produce 0 degrees kelvin the velocity of the molecular mass of one proton across one nanometer must increase by (22/7)C^6. :) <pi times lightspeed to the power of 6>

dont forget the aludium PU-36 Exlpoding space modulator..

:)

[tom10167]

Put a blowhole on the side of your room.

[mentaL704]

Originally posted by tom10167
Put a blowhole on the side of your room.

lol..... why didn't we all think of that :rolleyes:

[archilochus]

You have one of the best insulators around your room.The
earth. Close off the vent.Turn anything elect. off as it creates heat too.Good luck,Frosty :D THE FANMAN:cool:

[chasingapple]

Just run a duct from the wall to the outside straight to your computer powered by a room fan capable of 10,000 CFM or so, should do nicely ;)

[9mmCensor]

To seal of the vent get foam and shove it into the duct. That will stop the warm air from blowing in. Are all of your puters in your room? if so do they NEED to be their. try moving things that create heat out of the room. ALMOST Anything you use to cool your computer will just heat your room.

[zabomb4163]

Originally posted by 9mmCensor
To seal of the vent get foam and shove it into the duct. That will stop the warm air from blowing in. Are all of your puters in your room? if so do they NEED to be their. try moving things that create heat out of the room. Anything you use to cool your computer will just heat your room.

not ANYTHING :santa2:


LN2 :p

http://www.muropaketti.com/bench/r300_ln2/ln2_1.jpg
(not mine)

[CamH]

I dunno how much it would help, but you might be able to do something like this:


ASCII art time! Woo!


| vent |
|/\/\/\/\| <=- hsf's
|===== |_ <=- peltiers
| you room

See, the cold part of the pelts would be on your side of the vebt, and the HSF's and the hot side of the pelts would be on the other. I'm not sure how well this would work because the hot sides would get cooled with warm air. Who knows, might work alright. :rolleyes: Good luck!


ANOTHER CRAZY IDEA BROUGHT TO YOU BY CAM. :D

[9mmCensor]

i read something on how sound waves are cool or cool the air around them. all you need to do is get ALOT of speakers. grab a set of the klipschie gmx or whatever the alphabet code is and get the max number of subs (12? or 16?) and run those constantly... or until your parents put a window in your room.

[gusgizmo]

the heat has to go somewhere, no matter what. second law of thermodynamics, and thats just how it is. a blowhole sounds good. blow hole x2 going in opposite directions over an ac unit's condensor would be best :)


Atmospheric Decompression Hypothisis
the molecular displacement that the ionic discharge from particle acceleration is inversely proportional to the rate of acceleration of the velocity of the molecular mass of one proton across one nanometer at 0 degrees kelvin. Thus in order to produce 0 degrees kelvin the velocity of the molecular mass of one proton across one nanometer must increase by (22/7)C^6. <pi times lightspeed to the power of 6>


though i know your saying this in jest, id like to point out that you cant go faster than the speed of light, period.

[Ugmore Baggage]

If you make a closed system for a fridge unit you shouldn't do too bad.

Something I thought of but my wife would never allow:
You have to cut two holes in the fridge door.
put a good sized fan blowing out one.
run a duct from that one to the case door.
run a duct from all exhausts to return to the fridge.

I'm not 100% sure that a fridge will put out enough btus to make the inherent ineffficiency of this system workable but the idea supposedly works well with water. Also, he fridge will heat the room slightly, but it sounds like you can close your duct to compensate, making your room comfy for both of you.

"i read something on how sound waves are cool or cool the air around them."
Is that why cases come with speakers in them? Go figure, I have a few supersonic (sonic anyway) coolers on a shelf and never knew it!

[zebkoolindc]

Originally posted by gusgizmo
though i know your saying this in jest, id like to point out that you cant go faster than the speed of light, period.

Don't you watch star trek Wrap one is lightspeed and that is slow They go like way fast
:D

[gusgizmo]

lol, of course, lets bring the enterprise aside of a proton and encase it with a warp field with a magnitude of 6! then we can use it to supercool a single atom to 0K.

[AFIsoldier]

why can't i go faster than light? i have a race planned against it tonight, am i gonna loose? i mean i have the deloren(sp?) from back to the future!

[Cyrix_2k]

Freeze 5 gal buckets full of water outside. Then bring them in to cool your room. Once they've melted, refreeze them outside. You can stick them in your closet so people don't see them too.

[Smirabi]

haha, this is such a great thread to read for me. i am super sensitive to the heat my one computer and 2 monitors put out, i cant imagine living in a room with a handful of computers crunching all the time.

i like the frozen buckets idea... wouldnt work too well in new orleans tho...

as a side note, i dont think star trek is the best defense for the theoretical plausibility of faster than light travel... a better helper might be the ever-popular E=MC^2

[Blue_Dragon1521]

i always stay cold.. me and my comp.... i think its cause i am cold blooded

[hatkeeper]

i always stay cold.. me and my comp.... i think its cause i am cold blooded okay..that didn't make any sense! But the best cooling thing i suugest would be water cooling! :)

[Heatsinkguy]

Water cooling is dangerous and leaks but maybe its because i never wced and iam sacred

[zexmarquies01]

Here's an Idea......

You would need some coper pipe, A water pump, A Radiator, and a fan.

Get some piping, and put the pipe around your room.....like at the top, since heat rises.

Then, Get a pump, and some water. get water in the pipes, and have it pump water in the pipes around your room. Then have the pipes Connected to a Radiator thats like.....at the Heat vent.
Then have a Fan ( a strong one, to blow agenst the force of the hot air comming into your room from the vent ) And have the fan blow Into the radiator, and from the radiator, blow Into the vent.

But.....the only problem.....
Radiators will only drop the temp of the water to the temp of the ambient air.....

Or use my idea, with the other idea of the peltier. Have a peltier's Hot side face the heat vent, and get the Hot air to duct INTO the vent, and have the pelt like.....cool water in pipes around your room!

LOL, lots of work for a few extra MHZ.......but i think all the trouble is worth it!

[AFIsoldier]

you do have a door to your room right? well make a vent hole in the bottom of the door, attach a small airconditioner to it and have pipe run from it to yer comps and the exhaust(hot air) pump into the rest of the house, sucessfully cooling yer part and warming the rent's part

[Ugmore Baggage]

"you do have a door to your room right?"

Rotfl
If no door, you could just cut a hole in the wall and do the same thing, all the while pouring buckets of snow on your foam filled airvents.

Here's waht to do, run down to your local restaurant supply house and buy a walk-in refrigerator. Cut it into peices and sneak them in while your parents are eating dinner with the buckets off snow over their heads. Instead of carrying them downstairs you can just drop them down the heat vents using the foam to muffle the sound and protect any delicate parts. When you reassemble the refrigerator make sure that the door doesn't face the outside wall because you'll need it to let Lt Ohura in (something's got to keep you warm at night).

[gusgizmo]

e=mc^2 is not a defense against my statement that you cant go faster than light. in fact, you cant even go the speed of light, the amount of energy required to get there is infinite, and we all know that infinity is a concept, and not something that exists.

btw: e=mc^2 just relates energy to matter. so a kilogram of matter would make a f***load of joules of energy. and a f***load of energy would make some matter. thats why fusion/fission are so effective.

[AFIsoldier]

he might have a teleporter to his room so i had to ask lol...but anyways, why not just industrial fan blowing right onto the rigs with dry ice blocks on stools behind the fans?

[dalilman52]

Originally posted by 9mmCensor
i read something on how sound waves are cool or cool the air around them. all you need to do is get ALOT of speakers. grab a set of the klipschie gmx or whatever the alphabet code is and get the max number of subs (12? or 16?) and run those constantly... or until your parents put a window in your room.

this would be a bad idea w/ VERY disastrous results, first of all, magnetic waves created by a huge subwoofer mentioned by 9mm would indefinitely corrupt every single piece of data on ur HDD or mess up ur other hardware

PLZ nobody even think about doing this..unless u like broken, useless hardware (i know compaq likes to shove theirs into every home in america somehow)
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