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wild_andy_c
07-23-01, 10:00 AM
.....erm
zoopa_man
07-23-01, 10:12 AM
Is that a 1.62 I see there ? My goodness. Nice job bro. I think it's the cool picture that got you the extra push you needed to get to where your at now. The overclocking fairy has smiled upon you. Congrats !!
anarki_gr
07-23-01, 10:14 AM
WOW! nice oc andy!
What settings did you use to attain that?
Does this have something to do with the new 1G durons? I wonder if they have copper interconnects like I have been hoping.
wild_andy_c
07-23-01, 11:14 AM
It may have something more to do with Morgan
Come on now let us in on the little secret already. What is the code on the duron? I am looking to upgrade my duron 600 so a Morgan core might be just what I need to get over 1.5g for cheep.
wild_andy_c
07-23-01, 11:58 AM
A morgan maybe an expensive upgrade for you with that ASUS board - the power supplies on those are so poor they can't regulate low voltages with stable current.
I doubt that many "normal" morgans would be able to go that far anyhow for quite a while.
wild_andy_c
07-23-01, 11:59 AM
AMDGuy (Jul 23, 2001 10:51 a.m.):
What settings did you use to attain that?
162 x 10 3-5-3 CAS 2.5 "FAST" settings
TranceBear
07-23-01, 12:17 PM
Great job Andy, I did not think I would be chasing a Duron. I bow down to you!!
AZZKICKER
07-23-01, 02:02 PM
126%
how you do that
wild_andy_c
07-23-01, 02:08 PM
It is so much easier to load DDR to achieve 126% of rated load and gate switch.
Played UT all this after noon like it - quite nice at 1280 x 1024 !!!!
lemmingboy
07-23-01, 02:16 PM
How, where did you get it? AMD?
wild_andy_c
07-23-01, 02:35 PM
lemmingboy (Jul 23, 2001 02:16 p.m.):
How, where did you get it? AMD?
There are some questions you just don't even bother asking.............
Very Very Impressive!!! Great Overclock!!!
oc jason
07-23-01, 03:07 PM
come on man-you gotta let us know-for the sake of overlcocking-if it is a Morgan than how-i dont wanna know where jsut HOW-i mena whod you have to kill?- lemme guess you robbed Bill gates house and he was using it in his PC, cause he knows that Intel Sux, and i bet he had Linux running not Windows?? im right huh?
silent bob
07-23-01, 03:22 PM
NICE!!! you-da-man Ive been away for a while what is Morgan the only one I know is the Captain ,did you give your processor a little sip ? you got Captain Morgan runnin through the veins of that bad boy , I FIGURED IT OUT !!! you gave your processor liquid muscles why didnt I think of that
CONGRATS the level has been set
>>>I though Bill Gates used a mac?
steve
What kind of temps are you running with that thing clocked up like that?
When is morgan for mortals to be released?
asmodean
07-23-01, 03:53 PM
Why do you always get the best stuff, Wild_Andy? Grrr... I bet it's 1.2g when stock... But it's a Duron anyway! Argh! No Duron should be allowed to even post that high!
If you happen to get few more of those, mind sending one my way? lol
>>>>Bill Gates uses MSX, he likes it that way.
joey_rjm5
07-23-01, 05:51 PM
Wha.................How..................I mean................GEEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!
ManOfKnight
07-23-01, 05:59 PM
a duron posting that high...WOW, that is all i have to say. Dang good O/C there Andy...i only wish my 900 would be stable at anything above 1080
AtomicGuY
07-23-01, 06:52 PM
Hey all,
just wanted to say that my Friends 1GHz Duron is running smoothly at 1333MHz! (133x10) with 1.7Volts
Geez, 1.62GHz with a Duron? Man, you gotta be running 2volts to that sucker. good o/c
erickkk
07-23-01, 10:49 PM
can't believe that...WCPUID shot? please:-o
erickkk (Jul 23, 2001 10:49 p.m.):
can't believe that...WCPUID shot? please:-o
You can believe it, it's a prototype Morgan, Wild_Andy_C wouldn't lie about these things.
erickkk
07-23-01, 11:25 PM
Sorry, i' new, i can't know everyone ;D
Where does this cpu come from?
Trinity
07-23-01, 11:29 PM
Congrats! Very impressive!
wild_andy_c
07-24-01, 12:09 AM
Cor Blimey - there has been some reaction to this whilst I have been sleeping !!!
ManOfKnight
07-24-01, 06:47 AM
that is scary....i want one of those durons. My thunderbird is in ENVY of that duron....but i guess i will have to try it or a palamino when i get my vapochill setup....and maybe try a peltier WITH the vapochill, that would be chilly
ManOfKnight
07-24-01, 06:54 AM
also Andy, i must say, you have the hook up...you got urself a BAD AZZ chip....i don't want to KNOW how you got it, but i sure would like one
KILLorBE
07-24-01, 07:04 AM
What prog did you use....Photoshop ? j/k :D
Very nice O/C wild_andy_c 8)
wild_andy_c
07-24-01, 07:07 AM
I do use Photoshop 5.01, but have no fear - the screen shot is for real. I obtained a chip, I overlocked, I conquered, everyone dribbled down their chins!!!
I hope to obtain another soon. BTW - this is at only 1.625v
Amedeo602
07-24-01, 08:19 AM
gimme gimme gimme!! :)
VERY nice!
wild_andy_c (Jul 24, 2001 07:07 a.m.):
I do use Photoshop 5.01, but have no fear - the screen shot is for real. I obtained a chip, I overlocked, I conquered, everyone dribbled down their chins!!!
I hope to obtain another soon. BTW - this is at only 1.625v
1.625v get yourself to a vaporchill I want to see it post past 2.0ghz! do you have more info on your homepage? Don't bother answering cuz I ma going there now.
Wildfire
07-24-01, 02:36 PM
WOW!!!
I'm pretty new to the whole overclocking thing, but man!! That is good, I am not worthy! I had problems getting my 850 TBird to 1000, but that is good work. Oh and I fried a 1.2 TBird last week.
AmbientFiction
07-24-01, 02:51 PM
Way to go andy. Very nice O/C I wish I had a good Hook up **Wink wink nudge nudge** Know what I mean
asmodean
07-24-01, 03:27 PM
Allowing profanities to be said when wanted would make this forum's quality deteriorate at a fast pace. When I look at some other forums, almost every other post has F-words, etc in them. Some even mostly consist of them...
Removing a rule has a bad habit of people wanting another rule removed.
Just my 1/2 penny.
Amedeo602
07-24-01, 03:31 PM
Not to be anal, but last time I checked this forum doesn't belong to anyone who posted in this thread...
It's not me's, not andy's, not ferg's....u get the point
I say we all respect the rules of the forum whether you agree with them or not. And if you don't like it, post elsewhere.
Newbie_Doo
07-24-01, 03:48 PM
I agree that the use of colorful language to emphasize a post may increase the impact of said post. That said "me", please edit the above post to reflect the rules of the house. If you must state your position as above, an appropriately placed asterisk or two would suffice. We really DO want to keep this a relatively clean place to frequent.
Anthony
NOTE: This thread has been heavily edited by the moderator due to content. The discussions regarding the use of profanty starting a few posts above this one arose as a result of that content. The following discussions regarding the rules of the house are also a result of this. We feel that everyone should have the right to disagree with a post, but civility will be enforced. Free and open discussion is encouraged, but language should remain appropriate for even the youngest in our audience.
Anthony
William
07-24-01, 04:15 PM
To all those protesting the rules, please cooperate first. Dan, Shadow, and Tim are all out of the forums right now for various reasons. Skip doesn't have time to chase down and edit every post. Please cooperate right now, even if you disagree with the rules. You agreed to them by signing up at this forum, which is a private forum, and thus subject to the whims and wishes of the operators(Skip and Dan). This forum is meant for all ages, and that is why we frown upon such language. And about protecting kids, that is exactly what we should be doing. There have been people under 10 here as I know of several members who surf the forums with their kids. Sure they have heard it, but does that make it ok to still say it? There are other words besides the F word or BS to express emotion. Go look in a dictionary and a Thesaurus, the enlgish lanuage is the most colorful out there, there are plenty of other very acceptable words to substitute. Asmodean had a very good point, by allowing profanity to slip in the first is just going to allow the forum to detoriate into a forum like [H]ardOCP which is something that I know at least the seniors work our tails off to keep from happening. Please respect the rules and everyone edit their post to reflect the rules. At least save Dan some time from editing them. If you have a problem with the rules, give Dan an e-mail or a Private Message. He will give you a response. But protesting the rules in this fashion is not going to get you anywhere.
UnseenMenace
07-24-01, 04:16 PM
Ferg (Jul 24, 2001 03:18 p.m.):
All I am saying is that profanity if used properly is good. We need to allow it.
The fact of the matter is that profanity does not get the point across any better the statement "Help I think I've killed my CPU" does not provide anymore information if it was "Help I Think I've ******* killed my CPU". All profanity does is express anger, which is not the point of the forum and some people find it offensive. If you allow profanity do you draw the line at blasphemous profanity which obviously offends the religious among the forum users. What about drawing the line at "yo mama" statements? and.. who decides what is offensive and what is not?
Once you drop the standards and allow one profanity you can not stop another and the forum would be MUCH worse for this.
Anything that can offend another forum user is not good and profanity is such a thing and should never be allowed.
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Nice overclock Andy... very very impressed
Rob Cork
07-24-01, 04:25 PM
I've got a pretty dirty mouth if you'd hear me talk face to face - but I keep my posts clean out of respect for the rules. I don't frequent forums like the [H] because of the out-of-control swearing in them - it just annoys me. I agree, to a certain extent it can express your feelings probably better than anything else, but once you allow some swearing you'll get people using it gratuitously.
For the record, I'm not offended by strong language (I'm a 19yr old University student, I know all about swearing), I just think that gratuitous use of it gets in the way of what the person is trying to say sometimes. Plus we don't know who's using the forums, and I don't want to assume that every single member knows every single swear word under the sun. Please, is it really a big problem if you're not allowed to swear?
I don't want this to develop into a big row, but I can see there's some fairly strong feelings. If anyone's got anything to say, how bout dropping me, Andy or another Senior member a private message so we can discuss it without involving others?
This is a key point about this Forum.
The reason we don't allow profanity is NOT because I'm a prude; it's because it's a baby step to go from saying a FACT is BS to the PERSON is BS.
This I will not allow - I was very active in Toms Hardware Forums in the stone age and it degenerated into a flame-fest.
It's not going to happen here.
In this Forum, we respect each other as individuals. You can take issue all you want with what someone says and argue as passionately as you want, but you WILL NOT denigrate, defile or demean the person.
It's that simple.
Joe Citarella.
Well I know I would leave these forums in a flash except that I this is a good place to get information and still would be if the profanity was allowed. There are a lot of things that need changing around here. For one thing how are we attracting people into computers when they read a post that says, "cussing is bad" We are just making that dorky sterotype more real. Computers should not be confined to being dorky. I happen to be a football and baseball player, and I spend a lot more time on the practice field than in the forums. I think computers should become a hobby like collecting cards or stamps or whatever. By making the forum more "hip" we could attract more people. Obiviously allowing profanity is only one step and I dont know all the answers, but if we did something than this forum could be a place for everybody, not just the hardcore computer users which it seem like we are attracting now.
Rob Cork
07-24-01, 04:29 PM
Oops, sorry if I sounded a bit self-righteous in that last post. And I spent 10mins writing it as well. Oh well :D
Yeah, nice oc Andy. I believe in you man :)
Ferg (Jul 24, 2001 04:26 p.m.):
Well I know I would leave these forums in a flash except that I this is a good place to get information and still would be if the profanity was allowed. There are a lot of things that need changing around here. For one thing how are we attracting people into computers when they read a post that says, "cussing is bad" We are just making that dorky sterotype more real. Computers should not be confined to being dorky. I happen to be a football and baseball player, and I spend a lot more time on the practice field than in the forums. I think computers should become a hobby like collecting cards or stamps or whatever. By making the forum more "hip" we could attract more people. Obiviously allowing profanity is only one step and I dont know all the answers, but if we did something than this forum could be a place for everybody, not just the hardcore computer users which it seem like we are attracting now.
You dont have to swear to attack other people. I cant tell you the number of times i have read, "why would you buy a stupid slot a motherboard" or what not. Although I do agree that attacking other people and not the issues is wrong, not allowing swearing is not going to solve that.
Wow.... thats sweet Andy! I fired up my 1.4 Tbird for the first time yesterday, and it ran windows (150 X11=1650) but not with a load on it.... and fell on its face @ 1705... I thought I was doing good till I saw your Duron WOOHOO!!! more to come..... Jim
William
07-24-01, 04:44 PM
Ferg (Jul 24, 2001 04:26 p.m.):
Well I know I would leave these forums in a flash except that I this is a good place to get information and still would be if the profanity was allowed. There are a lot of things that need changing around here. For one thing how are we attracting people into computers when they read a post that says, "cussing is bad" We are just making that dorky sterotype more real. Computers should not be confined to being dorky. I happen to be a football and baseball player, and I spend a lot more time on the practice field than in the forums. I think computers should become a hobby like collecting cards or stamps or whatever. By making the forum more "hip" we could attract more people. Obiviously allowing profanity is only one step and I dont know all the answers, but if we did something than this forum could be a place for everybody, not just the hardcore computer users which it seem like we are attracting now.
Joe is right, it is a not a long step from calling something like Andy's oc BS to calling calling a piece of BS. This place isn't about being hip, its about helping others with overclocking. That includes EVERYONE and thus we must TRY to please everyone. Look at [H]ardOCP. You don't get help as a newbie there because no matter what your question you get flammed big time. If you look at the biggest and most often posted complement of this froum is the great amount of technical expertise and help you get here. I have had numerous headaches solved here. We don't cater to the dorks, I wouldn't call you a dork or a nerd just because you use a computer. By not allowing sweraing we are not being dorky, we are being accepting. If you allow swearing, where does it stop? You have to draw a line somewhere, and drawing it sooner rather than later is much much better.
Pitspawn
07-24-01, 05:06 PM
Comon guys, you cant quote a clock speed that high an not expect some rejection at least. Im surprised how little there was actually. AtomicGUY quoted a clock of 1.84Ghz and everyone swore blind, no-one did here. Prolly because it is admin who posted, but lets not go there.
And people using profanity should not be punished. The only people who should be punished are people using profanity against others or people using too much profanity. Swearing and cursing is as said just a way of expressing anger towards something. Its becoming more and more common, just look at movies these days.
BTW that is an awesome overclock with a Duron. At first I thought it wasn't special until i saw the Duron in the specs! It amazes me that you only needed an extra 0.025v to get up there too! Way to go!
William
07-24-01, 05:09 PM
we are not getting on the guy for expressing his doubt just the fashion he did it in. Nor are we for punishing people who use profanity. We just ask you not to use as Dan doesn't like it. We don't want anyone of you to leave or be banned for this.
Newbie_Doo
07-24-01, 05:17 PM
Ferg (Jul 24, 2001 04:26 p.m.):
Well I know I would leave these forums in a flash except that I this is a good place to get information and still would be if the profanity was allowed. There are a lot of things that need changing around here. For one thing how are we attracting people into computers when they read a post that says, "cussing is bad" We are just making that dorky sterotype more real. Computers should not be confined to being dorky. I happen to be a football and baseball player, and I spend a lot more time on the practice field than in the forums. I think computers should become a hobby like collecting cards or stamps or whatever. By making the forum more "hip" we could attract more people. Obiviously allowing profanity is only one step and I dont know all the answers, but if we did something than this forum could be a place for everybody, not just the hardcore computer users which it seem like we are attracting now.
I believe that the forum would be just as useful without the profanity as you seem to believe it would be with it. I am a hobbyist, and I left the [H] forum and the old Tom's forum for the same reasons that Joe did.
Judging by the rate at which we are adding members, I suggest that it is precisely because we limit the profanity, and enforce the limit, that people come here and stay. Would you find it a more comfortable place to get info if every other post was a flame-fest? Do you find it less comfortable because we expect civility?
If the goal of this site and this forum was to appeal to the masses/mob, and hits were the only thing that mattered, then how about we institute public floggings?
I suggest to you, and anyone else that reads this, that this forum IS a place for everybody right now, not just "dorks and geeks" as you think of the stereotype. It is so because we enforce the rules of civility, and allow some "color", if appropriately edited/modified.
This forum is a meeting place for a diverse group of individuals, from all over the world, and across the age spectrum. It exists at the pleasure of Skip and Joe. We are to remember that we are guests in their house and should act as such. Attempting to set an example for the younger members of society, with proper manners and respect for each other, is not too much to ask for.
By modifying my behavior here, I have found myself acting better in front of my own children. That, to me, makes this a little more worthwhile.
Anthony
I'm pretty sure that Joe, Ed, Skip and Dan, Shadow, Tim (did I miss anybody?) are not going to bend on the profanity issue.
I don't blame them one bit. Allowing one form of disrespect is the beginning of a downward spiral to absolute chaos.
And I agree with Andy, it is in the place of Senior Members to point out when the line is being crossed.
Rob Cork
07-24-01, 05:34 PM
Woah, in the time I was writing that there were 5 other replies. See how long I spend writing my posts, trying not to offend anyone? I think it's worth the effort :)
great oc andy !!
the lack of profanity and general respect for one another I believe is the reason that oc.com is growing at such a great pace it allows the new guy to ask that first question with out the fear that he/she will be ridiculed
swearing is of no use around here and does nothing to promote over clocking AND WILL NOT BE TOLERATED !! ;D
Pitspawn (Jul 24, 2001 05:06 p.m.):
Comon guys, you cant quote a clock speed that high an not expect some rejection at least. Im surprised how little there was actually. AtomicGUY quoted a clock of 1.84Ghz and everyone swore blind, no-one did here. Prolly because it is admin who posted, but lets not go there.
no-one believes atomicguy cos he's made completely unrealistic claims before. his is entirely a case of "cry wolf!", and no more.
we all trust andy because we know him, and the fact that's it's a morgan and not a normal duron makes the overclock entirely possible. most of the critics seem to have overlooked that fact. did the same people also say bullsh!t when people got celeron 300a's over 400? or when pIII 700 cB0s got to a gig? new steppings or new chips often set new records. nuff said.
Wildfire
07-24-01, 07:07 PM
Hey, Igree with Rob, I'm a 20yr old Uni student and know and probably use a large number of profanities, when I'm speaking but as the rules of this forum state, I don't carry them accross to here. I don't feel that it reallly needs it as, people help you if you post and I don't think that they woulkd any more or less if you used a profanity.
P.S Man I still can't believe that O/C, way cool.
silent bob
07-24-01, 07:21 PM
I am a construction worker and I talk like a truck driver...(no offence to ANY of th e trucking industry but it is a saying so I am using it)...but it takes too long just to post normally , I have to find the keys befor I can push them down and to swear in the forum for #1 is a NO-NO although I am guilty of it I know but NOT ANYMORE #2 Senior members are there for a reason (THEY ARE OLD ) ROFLMAO but seriosly they help maintain where the others cant so ... if you have a problem with that then I say GOOD RIDENCE ,cya ,dont let the door hit ya in the gludious maximus on the way out ,viacondios,sionara, so long , bye bye later aligator , aloha !!!!
William
07-24-01, 07:24 PM
old? im only 17? lol
dozier768
07-24-01, 08:22 PM
hey silent bob i agree with you man, i swear profusly, i am a fleet mechanic and am often P O'ed by the fords i have to deal with all day, but i also get a bit P O'ed with my machine here, but i dont vent on people about it with profanity, i do that offline lol, it simply isn't necisary to swear here it just doesn't accomplish anything, but to displace your frustration onto others. and let me tell you i got enough of my own and i certanly dont want anyone elses
castle lager fan
07-24-01, 08:29 PM
Somebody at AMD was very very naughty!!!!!
Andy you either got some of the chips never sopposed to see the light of day (the first Palomino(Desktop) and Morgan test chips were delayed due to FAB issues, somebody correct me if I'm wrong), or somebody leaked new chips (Morgans) before their release date (September I think).
If you got the Morgan see if you can get a desktop palomino from the same source. I have a little bet on with a friend that only the very extreme lucky will get 2 GHz with Palomino's before year end. Proof me right or wrong.
Ferg (Jul 24, 2001 04:26 p.m.):
Well I know I would leave these forums in a flash except that I this is a good place to get information and still would be if the profanity was allowed. There are a lot of things that need changing around here. For one thing how are we attracting people into computers when they read a post that says, "cussing is bad" We are just making that dorky sterotype more real. Computers should not be confined to being dorky. I happen to be a football and baseball player, and I spend a lot more time on the practice field than in the forums. I think computers should become a hobby like collecting cards or stamps or whatever. By making the forum more "hip" we could attract more people. Obiviously allowing profanity is only one step and I dont know all the answers, but if we did something than this forum could be a place for everybody, not just the hardcore computer users which it seem like we are attracting now.
Having been here awhile, I understand completely the reasoning why swearing is NOT allowed. I respect that. And judging by the rate at which the membership of these forums has literally EXPLODED recently, I think its safe to say we DON'T NEED swearing to "attract" people. Quite the opposite, it puts people OFF. Is swearing a part of life, yes. Is it a REQUIRED part of life, NO !!
Isn't there enough swearing going on in the world?? Do we HAVE TO make it a requirement to post here?? Is that the point? Why do we have to ADD to it? We don't.
If Andy said he got that chip to run that fast by duct taping an ice cube to it, I'd believe him.
Please respect the rules of these forums set out by those who founded it (Joe, Skip, Ed, and Daniel). The rules are a means to an end, that all of us should have a safe place to discuss ideas an techniques of maximizing the performance of our computers.
Mr B
William
07-24-01, 10:17 PM
Duct taping an ice cube??? Good one!
ManOfKnight
07-24-01, 10:31 PM
wow a lot has happened since i posted yesterday....i agree that swearing should not be allowed in the forums, every once in a while i catch myself writing a cuss word and have to stop. Cut my finger today modding my case, boy it is hard to type with 9 fingers and 1 triple sized fingertip (bandades)
ok i still think that overclocked duron is BS ,LMAO. Anyway any other AOL expressions i can use. My point is if people on this board say BS or f**k**g s**it why not ban those people too???? I mean dont you think a 10 year old can figure those missing words out too? Well i think this conversion has just become the most childish thread that i have ever read . The people who posted that agreed that BS is not profanity and a expression goes to show you that those are the real mature people that can relate to my post. Gettting to Andy and his rare duron that he dose not seem to post any type of system specs or way he overclocked his computer. Let me ask you this people since i come from a country that is based on fredom of speech and probbly 95 percent here do , you think that Andy is the real mature guy who dosnt seem to be able to post how he overclocked his computer?????????? Come on people get real!
Oh yeah i miss understood about the rules on this board. To me BS is not a swear word because i feel it is a just another way of saying not true, bogus or even BULLCRAP. However i do believe the all those people on this board writeing four letter words with astriks in them are swear words. I guess if you want to act childish why not go after those people writing those words with astriks in them as well.
Have a nice day!
Arguing about swearing is a real waste of this forum...seems like a chance for a bunch of people to get up on a pedestal and and put out a speech. Jeeze, just move on. BTW...I think the reason the argument came up is that you came off as an a**hole andy. From what I've read of you you seemed a little above that. Im a little disappointed...
I should clarify that... not saying anything about you andy... just about the feeling I got from your reply. No offense intended...sorry that was kindof unclear...
William
07-24-01, 11:51 PM
ME, I have no problem disagreeing with Andy, it was the manner in which you did that I had problems with. As far as how mature Andy is, he seems mature enough to me from the dealings I have had with him. And I do not think it is fair at all to call us childish for trying to limit the content on this forum. Yes you live in a country that protects the right to free speach, but that right only extends so far. As a member of oc.com you are subject to the rules of this forum. Skip and Joe have set down the rules, and thus they MUST be followed. I am sorry if you disagree, but as Newbie_Doo said we are guests in this house and thus must follow the rules of the house. And as Newbie_Doo has said, not swearing here has affected me in real life as I have stopped cursing like a sailer, and that is a good thing.
I would also advise Me and Gekko to town down your attacks on Andy, no personal attacks on any member in the forum will be tolerated at all. We have had this in the past, and the guy was banned. I hate to see it happen, and hate to see a post degrade to this issue, but picking fights If you want to know why the seniors stepped in, it was to stop this before it got of hand. You now know the rules, arguing them is not going to go anywhere. Both Skip and Joe are very FIRM on this issue, and I don't forsee them changing this at all.
Me,
Suffice to say that Wild Andy has been here for a long time, and he doesn't need to qualify his stats. I've been here a while myself, and feel that he wouldn't say it runs at XXXXMHz if it won't. If he says it runs at XXXXMHz, it does. Andy has the least amount of, well, BS coming from him of all the people I know.
Again, that's a proto MORGAN, not a Duron. There is a difference. Quite a difference, judging by the results he's gotten.
And, actually, we've been trying to get people to refrain from using the "Asteriks" as well. We're not trying to ban people because of swearing. There have been a couple that have been banned, but there were other circumstances involved, other than just swearing. It's continued disregard for the forum rules of conduct that gets you bounced out of here. Just because you can swear while you're typing something in doesn't make it right to type in the swear, as well. Swearing is usually a spontanious act. Typing it in takes time, and thought. If you have to take the time to think and do it, don't. That's all we ask. Why is it such a big issue to HAVE to swear?? This is what I don't understand from this arguement....
Mr B
wild_andy_c
07-25-01, 12:19 AM
Well - it's 6am this side of the pond now and I've been up sice 5:40am reading all of the posts that were made in this thread since I went to bed last night.
I'm here bright and happy to post nother day using clean, witty and happy language. It would seem that some people went o** at a t*n**nt last night (off at a tangent!!!) and completely lost the plot.
If there is anyone out there not wanting to abide by the rules, so be it - I'm sure they will be welcome elesewhere. They are as stated within this thread merely lodgers on goodguy Skip's server, in order to keep up residency Skip merely asks that people abide by the rules. No one is bigger than the rules - not me, any other seniors or any of the members.
We seniors will try to offer guidance when people do perhaps make an oversight of the boundaries. When this gets spat back in our faces so to speak - things tend to envelop into threads like this where people start to leavre and get banned. I can see replies from many within this post (notice I donot mention whom) that are very mature, concise, clean but moreover - very effective - and that is what it is all about.
To any of those who felt they had to leave - I hope that you are happy whereever you end up and that their language is colourful enough you to sink to.
As for now guys and girls - lets all get on with making some nice good old informative posts on the subject that we love most. Remember - this life's too short to be nasty to each other, so lets all be nice to one another. Peace, Love & Unity to all forum members.
wild_andy_gonna_love_the _world_c™ !!!!
Whoah, nice O/C Andy! You still runnin direct die cooling on that?
wild_andy_c
07-25-01, 12:51 AM
No - just the Akasa Silver Mountain - the coolest Air Cooler I've ever reviewed !
I had this one duron that would not go past 866 with a WBK38, this beast got it all the way to 978Mhz. Hence it took the square Morgan core and beasted it past 1.5 easily, I had to upvolts a little for 1.6Ghz though !!!
wild_andy_c
07-25-01, 01:28 AM
GuNRocK (Jul 25, 2001 01:09 a.m.):
Andy has a prerealeased chip right? correct me if i am wrong now any chip duron/athlon with the Aluminum interconnect doesnt go that high 1.3?ghz max my guess now if he does have a special chip maby it has copper interconnects we dont know he hasnt told us very much and maby thats why its an awsome overclocker.
Yep - pre-release chip and yes copper interconnects in this case, however initial Durons will be extrudeded in Austin Texas on Aluminium process, so do not expect them to go wild_andy_speed a ssoon as they come out., because this die is a Dresden golden sample by all acounts.
BTW - Gunrock, please remove the four letter wordage from your post - something like "WOW - AMAZING OVERCLOCK" is fine.
L8rs friends - time to go and educate my world by going to work - London today.
GuNRocK
07-25-01, 01:33 AM
I was just explaing how above i said certain situations swaring is AOK becuase i realy wasnt directing it at you in a bad way... cya enjoy your tip to London :)
William
07-25-01, 01:42 AM
GuNRocK (Jul 25, 2001 01:33 a.m.):
I was just explaing how above i said certain situations swaring is AOK becuase i realy wasnt directing it at you in a bad way... cya enjoy your tip to London :)
Yes, but in your explination did you have to use it even though you knew that it was against the rules? Protesting the rules by breaking them is not a good way to win an argument. Sorry for the ran there.
On another note, if you want to protest this with civility, please make a new post in the Gripes and Moans section or in the Forum Comments section. This thread has degenerated into just that, and that is where it should be. If you have a problem, post it there. It will be seen I gurantee.
wild_andy_c
07-25-01, 01:44 AM
The point is though Gunrock that swearing is not acceptable in any form in here - that is the rules made by the Administrator and Senior Moderator. We don't make the rules we just abide by them.
Peace Brother.
Allan Nielsen
07-25-01, 06:16 AM
Nice OC Andy!!! WOW!
I must admit I know almost nothing about AMD CPU's, specs etc, but that sure seems nice. I know you are mad (or just wild?) - but also honest - and I would never doubt your words man! :)
My view on the rules:
Rules are rules. If you don't like them, try e-mailing skip about it. Not all rules are good rules I agree, but we are in Skips house, and we MUST live by his rules. If we don't feel we can do that, we leave. PEACEFULLY, not saying "F*** U ALL". Somehow people don't like hearing that.
Its as simple as that, IMHO.
For the love of god could we stop talking about the rulz and talk about the new chip! Could you post a pic Andy? you could blur the numbers so they don't find your "source". Andy are you a spy? London, high tech gizmos you are 007!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
UnseenMenace
07-25-01, 06:57 AM
With overclocks like that its explains why Andy comes from Great Britain
wild_andy_c
07-25-01, 07:19 AM
UnseenMenace (Jul 25, 2001 06:57 a.m.):
With overclocks like that its explains why Andy comes from Great Britain
Birmingham massive kickin it true !!!
Gonna knock that chip up black and blue !!!
RRAAARRGGGHHH !!!! hehehe
samuknow
07-25-01, 09:04 AM
killer OC Andy.
I'm glad to see we can all get along here.
wild_andy_c (Jul 24, 2001 07:07 a.m.):
I do use Photoshop 5.01, but have no fear - the screen shot is for real. I obtained a chip, I overlocked, I conquered, everyone dribbled down their chins!!!
I hope to obtain another soon. BTW - this is at only 1.625v
I really believe this is a hoax. Its even worse than atomicguy got on his tbird!!! 1.6ghz just aint possible and on 1.6v????????? WTF?? Ur lying us all full. Then i believe more on atomicguy with his 1.4@1.84 i think it was.
i just wonder why does everyone believe that andy got over 1.6ghz on a duron??? Why didnt anyone believe atomicguy with his 1.4@1.84 oc?? Sounds more possible than getting 1.6 on a duron............... And on 1.6v?? he dosent even come up with any screenshots running 3dmark or anything, only sandra. I might have believed it if it was liqued nitrogen but 1.6 on air or water..............
Pitspawn (Jul 24, 2001 05:06 p.m.):
Comon guys, you cant quote a clock speed that high an not expect some rejection at least. Im surprised how little there was actually. AtomicGUY quoted a clock of 1.84Ghz and everyone swore blind, no-one did here. Prolly because it is admin who posted, but lets not go there.
And people using profanity should not be punished. The only people who should be punished are people using profanity against others or people using too much profanity. Swearing and cursing is as said just a way of expressing anger towards something. Its becoming more and more common, just look at movies these days.
BTW that is an awesome overclock with a Duron. At first I thought it wasn't special until i saw the Duron in the specs! It amazes me that you only needed an extra 0.025v to get up there too! Way to go!
Yeah i totally agree, pretty unfair too atomicguy......... Everyone believes andy just because he is an senior. Personally i think both are bs.
AmbientFiction
07-25-01, 09:56 AM
Tomas (Jul 25, 2001 09:40 a.m.):
wild_andy_c (Jul 24, 2001 07:07 a.m.):
I do use Photoshop 5.01, but have no fear - the screen shot is for real. I obtained a chip, I overlocked, I conquered, everyone dribbled down their chins!!!
I hope to obtain another soon. BTW - this is at only 1.625v
I really believe this is a hoax. Its even worse than atomicguy got on his tbird!!! 1.6ghz just aint possible and on 1.6v????????? WTF?? Ur lying us all full. Then i believe more on atomicguy with his 1.4@1.84 i think it was.
Dude you just don't underdstand Andy has the Hook ups for crazy stuff just look at his site. I love the Trash Can hat andy
Tomas (Jul 25, 2001 09:40 a.m.):
wild_andy_c (Jul 24, 2001 07:07 a.m.):
I do use Photoshop 5.01, but have no fear - the screen shot is for real. I obtained a chip, I overlocked, I conquered, everyone dribbled down their chins!!!
I hope to obtain another soon. BTW - this is at only 1.625v
I really believe this is a hoax. Its even worse than atomicguy got on his tbird!!! 1.6ghz just aint possible and on 1.6v????????? WTF?? Ur lying us all full. Then i believe more on atomicguy with his 1.4@1.84 i think it was.
I think that if he can get Intel roadmaps, he can also get proto chips. The Morgans run at less voltage than today's Durons.
William (Jul 24, 2001 11:51 p.m.):
ME, I have no problem disagreeing with Andy, it was the manner in which you did that I had problems with. As far as how mature Andy is, he seems mature enough to me from the dealings I have had with him. And I do not think it is fair at all to call us childish for trying to limit the content on this forum. Yes you live in a country that protects the right to free speach, but that right only extends so far. As a member of oc.com you are subject to the rules of this forum. Skip and Joe have set down the rules, and thus they MUST be followed. I am sorry if you disagree, but as Newbie_Doo said we are guests in this house and thus must follow the rules of the house. And as Newbie_Doo has said, not swearing here has affected me in real life as I have stopped cursing like a sailer, and that is a good thing.
I would also advise Me and Gekko to town down your attacks on Andy, no personal attacks on any member in the forum will be tolerated at all. We have had this in the past, and the guy was banned. I hate to see it happen, and hate to see a post degrade to this issue, but picking fights If you want to know why the seniors stepped in, it was to stop this before it got of hand. You now know the rules, arguing them is not going to go anywhere. Both Skip and Joe are very FIRM on this issue, and I don't forsee them changing this at all.
DID gekko attack andy??? So just because andy is an senior u cant say u think he is talking BS?? what is wrong with this??
Pasted from gekkos post:
Arguing about swearing is a real waste of this forum...seems like a chance for a bunch of people to get up on a pedestal and and put out a speech. Jeeze, just move on. BTW...I think the reason the argument came up is that you came off as an a**hole andy. From what I've read of you you seemed a little above that. Im a little disappointed...
I should clarify that... not saying anything about you andy... just about the feeling I got from your reply. No offense intended...sorry that was kindof unclear...
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If this was wrong ban me too then. No one complained when everyone on this board flamed atomicguy when he talked about his oc.
And why cant andy just tell us how he oc, what system he got and things like that?? Is that mature?
It was just a lie, bs, hoax
Tomas
Thank you SFAok ... I think people like atomic guy and Andy with his rare DURON make this board really lame. Thats like me saying yeah i just bought a Palimino 1.4 gighertz and i got it to run at 2100 MHZ at 1.69 volts air cooled> Yeah i guess it has gold interconects because the shipment was a leaked AMD Beta CPU. Oh yeah im using the new PCI /6 bios version for the epox ddr mobo and plus i have pc2700 ram. Oh an i almost forgot to tell you guys since im so smart putting this rig togeather i forgot to tell you the code off the cpu and show any kind of screen shots of cpuid or 3dmark2000 or 2001.
I think (of course, I can't be sure) that William may have been writing his response while gekko was writing his clarification. The reason that we believe Andy is because we know that he can get these chips. If a different senior without these kinds of connections said what Andy is saying, I'd doubt them, but not as much as someone who hasn't been on the forum for long. I don't think that any of the seniors here would lie to this forum. He had a Morgan a while before the Palamino (sp?) came out, I can't find the post, though.
Me (Jul 25, 2001 10:16 a.m.):
Thank you SFAok ... I think people like atomic guy and Andy with his rare DURON make this board really lame. Thats like me saying yeah i just bought a Palimino 1.4 gighertz and i got it to run at 2100 MHZ at 1.69 volts air cooled> Yeah i guess it has gold interconects because the shipment was a leaked AMD Beta CPU. Oh yeah im using the new PCI /6 bios version for the epox ddr mobo and plus i have pc2700 ram. Oh an i almost forgot to tell you guys since im so smart putting this rig togeather i forgot to tell you the code off the cpu and show any kind of screen shots of cpuid or 3dmark2000 or 2001.
yeh i agree!! Some ppl must always screw this board up. Like with the cpu database that is full of k6s running on 1-2ghz and things like that.
The thing that annoyes me is that all ppl belive andy which is a seniour and not the newbies, regular members. Seniors can lie too......... Atleast atomic showed us some screenshots so i believe more in him than in andy, still andy is a senior
I didn't say that I don't believe those that are new to the board, if someone with a good hardware review site like Andy has came in, and one of their first posts was of this nature, I would probably believe them. The reason many people didn't believe Atomicguy was because parts of his system couldn't possibly work, I think there were issues with memory slots. I'm not sure if I'm properly expressing who I would believe and not, but I don't believe Andy just because he's a senior, it's because I know that he has the connections.
hmm because andy said he had connections with intel and amd??
Or have u seen any proof on that`?
Tomas (Jul 25, 2001 10:33 a.m.):
hmm because andy said he had connections with intel and amd??
Or have u seen any proof on that`?
He had Intel roadmaps from a leak on his site (they were taken down per Intel's request), and pictures of him holding a Morgan a while back, but I can't find that post.
I guess my post count skyrockets when I don't have work. :D
GuNRocK
07-25-01, 11:14 AM
Sorry guys for my little outburst last night
If a 1Ghz athlon with Coppercore can reach 1.5 or 1.55Ghz how hard is it to believe for a 1ghz duron there allmost idential in cores and now duron 1ghz prerealease is with copper that means it can do those high clock speeds.... and its allittle hint of what the future holds :) u will see Duron 1ghz 1.15 1.2 1.25 1.3 1.35 1.4 1.45 1.5 1.55 1.6 if this 1ghz comes out soon....u should see all the way up to 1.6Ghz probly just over 1 year from the realease of the 1ghz.
By the way i think Andy is telling the truth becuase his chip is copper interconenct and that makes allmost anything possible even 1.6Ghz Duron!
Jeeeze guys, Andy's got no reason to lie. I'm with Mr B on this, if he said he did it with an ice cube and duct tape, I'd be out in the garage looking for a roll of tape and the freezer looking for a suitable ice cube. If you don't believe him, then don't believe him but don't accuse him of lying.
Nice oc
How bought some more benchmarks. Show us how bad the p4 really sucks.
wild_andy_c
07-25-01, 12:18 PM
GuNRocK (Jul 25, 2001 11:17 a.m.):
Sorry guys for my little outburst last night
If a 1Ghz athlon with Coppercore can reach 1.5 or 1.55Ghz how hard is it to believe for a 1ghz duron there allmost idential in cores and now duron 1ghz prerealease is with copper that means it can do those high clock speeds.... and its allittle hint of what the future holds :) u will see Duron 1ghz 1.15 1.2 1.25 1.3 1.35 1.4 1.45 1.5 1.55 1.6 if this 1ghz comes out soon....u should see all the way up to 1.6Ghz probly just over 1 year from the realease of the 1ghz.
By the way i think Andy is telling the truth becuase his chip is copper interconenct and that makes allmost anything possible even 1.6Ghz Duron!
Thank you GuNRocK, that is mighty noble of you. It takes a good man to stand up and apologise for his actions.
Don't worry people like "el", "AmbientFiction" and "sfa" who seem to have stood my corner and stated :-
[#]Andy does have means and ways of obtaining something a little newer than shiny.
[#]I have nothing to gain from lying
[#]etc
In order to stop any of the criticism that has come my way we need to understand what the chip is:-
[#]Morgan Duron is the same to Spifire Duron as Palomino Athlon is to T-Bird Athlon
[#]Although production parts won't perhaps peak to this gravity of speed instantly, engineering samples are made at the best of the process capability window in order to be able to forecast yields for roadmap and economic purposes.
[#]Morgan Durons Core Voltage may well be as low when etched properley as 1.40v, hence why at 1.625v, the engineering sample was able to overclock quite so admirably.
[#]The chip is only with me on a loan basis - with emphasis on it not being publicised on my website. I have to promise not to burn it out or chip the corners of the core during HSF mounting (I might have a problem there!)
[#]Although later Morgans will have copper interconnects like this "Golden Sample" it will be probable that initial chips may be able to use the aluminium interconnect system used extensively on Austin Texas dies. This will be possible because of the difference in design between Morgan and Spitfire, just like there is a difference between Thunderbird and Palomino.
[#]Hence the doubt around the situation probably arises from what people with current Spitfire Durons are acheiving at top end of overclocks which in the general domain is somewhere in the region of 1.02Ghz.
[#]I don't expect to be able to buy a chip that will overclock this far until Q2 2002 - that would make sense. The first Morgans may only go as far as 1.25Ghz as an estimation.
I hope that this may clarify the situation for some and I hope that any hostility that people are displaying ceases as all that it will serve to do is not good. For me now I am going to concentrate on my dual Via C3 overclocking for a few hours - so I'll catch you all later.
Peace and Love,
Ok where is the pic of the duron if it is so special?? Where are the benchmarks for this chip against the P4?? Where is there any proof beside the pic saying duron 1.62gigertz that andy showed us ?Does photoshop tell you guys anything? He dosnt want you guys to see the benchmarks because he knows that it might ruin his reputation down the road. Oh yeah did you guys know that there was a UFO crash in ROSSWELL back in the 40's? Yeah its TRUE ITS TRUE. Just type in Rosswell in any search engine on the net and you will see. Believe me its true its true! Oh im sorry but i can not show you any Pictures of the crash site or any pictures of parts of the ship that were blown up because the government might come tell me something bad if i did show you. They might come to my house and do something bad to me and tell me to be quiet.
Anyway does that sound like something familiar
LOL ,ITS BS ! BS! BS! BS! BS! BS!
OUT
AmbientFiction (Jul 25, 2001 11:16 a.m.):
To anyone talking sh*t about andy and saying he is lying have you even taken the time to look at his site?
Anyway do you think skip would allow a senior to post BS no he wouldn't
I dont believe it but wasnt why i got pissed. Its because eveyone flamed **** too atomicguy for claiming he got 1.84ghz on air. But when someone gets over 1.6 on a duron which must be a world record or something everyone believes it and if someone dont believe it you all get mad cuz he is an senior and because of that he is not lying. If u look on atomicguy recent posts u can see that seniors is saying atomic is full of bs.
So just because ur an newbie ur lying?? a bit unfair.
I just need some proof before i believe it only thing i have seen is some bad sandra screenshot which may be edited in photoshop or something.
I just dont like u treathing newbies that way they can get as high oc as seniors........
would have been nice with just a few more screenshots from 3dmark an such programs:)
Tomas (Jul 25, 2001 09:45 a.m.):
i just wonder why does everyone believe that andy got over 1.6ghz on a duron??? Why didnt anyone believe atomicguy with his 1.4@1.84 oc?? Sounds more possible than getting 1.6 on a duron............... And on 1.6v?? he dosent even come up with any screenshots running 3dmark or anything, only sandra. I might have believed it if it was liqued nitrogen but 1.6 on air or water..............
read andy's post for an explanation. i think it's good enough.
also, we've seen the chip he's talking about! he posted a thread with photos of himself holding a morgan. everyone believed him then cos they could see it. he's the webmaster of a popular website, and as such can get stuff you and i can't from manufacturers. i bet tom pabst or anand lal shimpi wouldn't have half the number of critics if they posted this, but they're in the same position as andy is for getting gear.
proze (Jul 25, 2001 12:55 p.m.):
Tomas (Jul 25, 2001 09:45 a.m.):
i just wonder why does everyone believe that andy got over 1.6ghz on a duron??? Why didnt anyone believe atomicguy with his 1.4@1.84 oc?? Sounds more possible than getting 1.6 on a duron............... And on 1.6v?? he dosent even come up with any screenshots running 3dmark or anything, only sandra. I might have believed it if it was liqued nitrogen but 1.6 on air or water..............
read andy's post for an explanation. i think it's good enough.
also, we've seen the chip he's talking about! he posted a thread with photos of himself holding a morgan. everyone believed him then cos they could see it. he's the webmaster of a popular website, and as such can get stuff you and i can't from manufacturers. i bet tom pabst or anand lal shimpi wouldn't have half the number of critics if they posted this, but they're in the same position as andy is for getting gear.
Can u plz give me a link?
Cursing will not make computers "hip" or non dorky. Try talking with a trash mouth in the real world and see how far it gets you.
I personally don't care if someone uses a single curse word to describe a bad situation, but the fact is that it can be easily abused, and can be taken out of context by others and interpreted wrong.
Since we don't pay the hosting fees, software fees, or spend many hours a week keeping this site up, we all must play by the rules. Since posting AND reading posts here is a privilege, it is subject to rules and regulations of the owners, and you must respect them weather you agree with them or not.
AKDUDE
TranceBear
07-25-01, 01:21 PM
Tomas (Jul 25, 2001 12:59 p.m.):
proze (Jul 25, 2001 12:55 p.m.):
Tomas (Jul 25, 2001 09:45 a.m.):
i just wonder why does everyone believe that andy got over 1.6ghz on a duron??? Why didnt anyone believe atomicguy with his 1.4@1.84 oc?? Sounds more possible than getting 1.6 on a duron............... And on 1.6v?? he dosent even come up with any screenshots running 3dmark or anything, only sandra. I might have believed it if it was liqued nitrogen but 1.6 on air or water..............
read andy's post for an explanation. i think it's good enough.
also, we've seen the chip he's talking about! he posted a thread with photos of himself holding a morgan. everyone believed him then cos they could see it. he's the webmaster of a popular website, and as such can get stuff you and i can't from manufacturers. i bet tom pabst or anand lal shimpi wouldn't have half the number of critics if they posted this, but they're in the same position as andy is for getting gear.
Can u plz give me a link?
How about the pic?
And the link: http://forums.overclockers.ws/forums/UltraBoard.cgi?action=Read&BID=8&TID=19413&P=1&SID=133010#ID23
TranceBear
07-25-01, 01:24 PM
He sure does look happy!!
THANK YOU Trancebear, I've been looking all over for that post, for those doubtful, look at the shape of the core, that isn't a regular Duron........
TranceBear
07-25-01, 01:32 PM
sfa ok (Jul 25, 2001 01:31 p.m.):
THANK YOU Trancebear, I've been looking all over for that post, for those doubtful, look at the shape of the core, that isn't a regular Duron........
No prob, I have too much free time right now.
samuknow
07-25-01, 01:36 PM
Now Andy see what you have done. No one is playing nice here. J/K
I don't really see why everyone is getting so twisted. If you don't believe it then fine, Don't. No need to completely loose your mind about it.
There is a reputation here to back up Andy's claim. I am by no means trying to convince anyone to think a certain way. Lets just be civil here.
I think this thread has gotten a LITTLE out of control.
:-) :-) :-)
zoopa_man
07-25-01, 01:40 PM
For those trashing Andy.....suck it up.....if you still don't like it then just don't take his advice...for me I'm curious to learn what he has to say....and would love to know how long that chip will last going that fast. Rock on Andy, don't let these boys drag you down, A real pro knows his stuff, that's Andy.
hooziewhatsit
07-25-01, 01:45 PM
Has anyone stopped to think that the reason he hasn't posted any benchmarks of it is because he might not be able to since it is on loan and whoever loaned it doesn't want those benchmarks out there?
just a couple cents
Wildfire (Jul 24, 2001 07:07 p.m.):
Hey, Igree with Rob, I'm a 20yr old Uni student and know and probably use a large number of profanities, when I'm speaking but as the rules of this forum state, I don't carry them accross to here. I don't feel that it reallly needs it as, people help you if you post and I don't think that they woulkd any more or less if you used a profanity.
P.S Man I still can't believe that O/C, way cool.
It's not whether you believe it or not that is the point - it's just that the exact word "bulls***" was used in both threads and reacted to in two different ways...
William (Jul 24, 2001 10:17 p.m.):
Duct taping an ice cube??? Good one!
I'll say it again - not about respect or if you believe it or not or anything like that - it's about the ways it has been expressed - which is identical..
TT120 (Jul 25, 2001 11:36 a.m.):
Jeeeze guys, Andy's got no reason to lie. I'm with Mr B on this, if he said he did it with an ice cube and duct tape, I'd be out in the garage looking for a roll of tape and the freezer looking for a suitable ice cube. If you don't believe him, then don't believe him but don't accuse him of lying.
No offense to Andy, and I DO believe that overclock - but why is everyone supposed to "check his site" or "not express it" ? Aren't people allowed to believe whatever they want and express their feelings. Again I'll compare this with AtomicGuy's thread - which was VERY unfair to atomicguy...
*edit* Whoa..post flood by me :) Sorry guys, replying as I read. Not that smart but heck this thread is huge ;)
Newbie_Doo
07-25-01, 02:44 PM
I think we have flogged this dead horse long enough. The language rules will be enforced more diligently in the future, even if they have not been in the past. As I stated in my earlier post, some "color", appropriately modified, is allowed. The rules of conduct here DO require civility though, and civility will be ensured by whatever means necessary.
If you research atomicguy's posts, that thread should have been moderated a lot earlier than it was. That was our failing. Maybe he did and maybe he didn't really get to 1.84ghz. Either way, more respect should have been shown to all.
The chip that wild_andy_c has is a prototype Morgan. A VERY preproduction engineering sample. This is not a Duron as we know it. Rather than assume that this is a BS post, why don't we look at it as a portent of things to come from AMD. Quite frankly, getting to 1.6ghz and beyond with the Palomino/Morgan architecture is pretty exciting to me, because performance from these chips is going to far surpass anything that is built on the P4 core for a long time to come.
Nice overclock, Andy. I hope to see others following this lead soon.
Anthony
GERRY136
07-25-01, 02:56 PM
rokin oc andy!
Daniel ~
07-27-01, 04:12 PM
To whom it may concern:
I have known Andy for more than two years. I have never know him to so much as make the slightest exaggeration, let alone lie. I know how and where Andy got his chip.
I am unconcerned that not everyone has the wit to appreciate my friend or his achievements. I am simply glad that he shares them with me in our forum.
Our rule to much to bear? Leave. Simple and straight forward, leave.
Our forums grow at an astonishing rate, while many other sites have unfortunately taken a noise dive or even folded for good. Some of theses sights are much missed, others less so.
We have been at this a while now and have a pretty good idea of how we wish to continue. We will continue as we have begun. This isn't going to change. If you find that intolerable then leave. We never thought for a moment everyone would like the way we do things. We are here for those who do.
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