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MLMIB
11-17-03, 07:43 AM
a few questions, just help me out if you can 'cause I'm clueless

okay, difference between the ic7 and IS7 from abit. I know it's the canterwood northbridge(I think....) but not quite sure what that does me as an overclocker

after this, what mobo is the best for ocing...?

'n are there any articles I can read about how to oc an intel, sorta clueless. just hit me up with some good links

any of you want amd tips? I know those cores inside 'n out, just got a deal on an intel chip for 200, couldn't pass it up (3.0ghz ht chip) just need the good oc board

many thanks

batboy
11-17-03, 08:14 AM
The IC7 uses the i875 Canterwood chipset and the IS7 uses the i865 Springdale chipset. Really there isn't much difference. The IC7 is supposed to be more of a higher end server grade mobo with slightly higher quality chips.

There is no one "best" mobo. Both of those mentioned Abit mobos are great along with the Asus P4C800 or P4P800 series.

The best source for overclocking Intel is right here in this section of the forum. Just ask questions and we'll be happy to help you get an awesome O/C.

N.E.R.D_BOI
11-17-03, 08:32 AM
You should do some search, there are a plethora of articles lying around. But this is from what i know, don't quote me on this.

The IC7 has the 875 chipset(canterwood) which has PAT. The IS7 has the 865PE chipset( Springdale)which is exactly the same as the 875 chipset without PAT enabled. From what i heard, 865PE chips are chips that failed tests to have pat enabled and got graded as 865PE - (someone correct me here if im wrong! :p)

Mobo manufacturers have found a way to enable PAT on the springdale mobo's with later BIOS revisions. But from what i've heard, the later revisions of the 865 chipset are completely locked and there is no way of enabling PAT.

If you ask me they are both pretty close in regards to performance. You won't be disappointed with either. The enthusiast will usually opt for the canterwood while the budget minded will opt for the springdale boards.

Don't be afraid to search the net there are a heap of articles reviewing these boards side by side, you'll get more in-depth reviews and you'll get a clearer idea of what you want to go for ;)
In fact i think anandtech did a big motherboard comparison. I'll post the link when i find it.

edit: here's the link http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.html?i=1831

Oh and i just realised you said you got a 3ghz chip. With that processor, you'll have a multi of 15. Both 865/875 boards can reach well over 250FSB. And with a multi of 15 im sure you won't be needing to go higher than that if you intend to use air cooling!
Hope this helps ;)

MLMIB
11-17-03, 11:53 AM
so what does pat actually do?

Mr. $T$
11-17-03, 11:59 AM
http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/pat.htm

There you go :)

MLMIB
11-17-03, 12:05 PM
you guys are the best :D

*gets to reading*

MLMIB
11-17-03, 12:07 PM
alright, questions

what does this actually do, like real world?

does it affect the oc?

can you honestly notice it? not like o wow, 2 points on 3dmark, like I mean does it effect any of this or is it meant for servers


if you had to buy an intel mobo, which one?

MLMIB
11-17-03, 12:25 PM
ok, just read the article at anandtech, 'n I can't seem to find a reason as to why to pay more for anything but an is7, it won almost all the benches, if it didnt' it ended up in the top 4, had one of the highest oc's, 'n I didn't seem to notice a diff in scores between it 'n the 875p chipsets, is the pat thing just not for real or did abit get around it 'n just make a kick arse mobo?

just not seein y I would pay more....

Mr. $T$
11-17-03, 12:26 PM
I have no idea what the real world benefits would be but I have bought the IS7 and I am really happy with it, it is stable fast and has a butt load of fetures :cool: I hope to get a new PSU and some better memory to hopefully unlock the full capabilities of my setup. :)